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Tender Branson
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massachussets senate: with high turnout, brown in danger
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December 02, 2010, 05:03:48 pm »
Kennedy - 48%
Brown - 41%
Patrick - 49%
Brown - 42%
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_MA_1202424.pdf
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Re: PPP: With high turnout, Brown (R-MA) in danger
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December 02, 2010, 05:09:47 pm »
Well, duh?
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redcommander
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Re: PPP: With high turnout, Brown (R-MA) in danger
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December 02, 2010, 05:11:41 pm »
Quote from: okalawandi on December 02, 2010, 05:03:48 pm
Kennedy - 48%
Brown - 41%
Patrick - 49%
Brown - 42%
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_MA_1202424.pdf
What do you mean? Brown is leading all the top tier Democrats in head to head matchups.
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Re: massachussets senate: with high turnout, brown in danger
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Edit: ah, immediately after posting, I see what's going on...
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Re: massachussets senate: with high turnout, brown in danger
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December 02, 2010, 05:50:37 pm »
The poll is merely a reflection of name recognition. All Democrats polled against Brown have mixed favorables and are not very well known. I'd expect these mediocre candidates to be doing much worse against Fake Moderate Hero Brown with the approval ratings he has.
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Re: massachussets senate: with high turnout, brown in danger
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Like it matters. He'll be teabagged anyway.
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Dallasfan65
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December 02, 2010, 06:20:16 pm »
LOL.
Good one, Vander.
Anyway, I say Brown's re-election is still up in the air, but very do-able.
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Quote from: memphis on December 02, 2010, 06:16:38 pm
Like it matters. He'll be teabagged anyway.
Good luck trying to teabag someone who has a 70% approval rating. The tea party would look like hypocrites.
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Re: massachussets senate: with high turnout, brown in danger
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December 02, 2010, 06:22:07 pm »
Interesting notes:
Stephen Lynch has better favorability with self-identified conservatives than liberals.
More people think the GOP is "too liberal" than Scott Brown.
The fact that Brown earns about 25% of Democratic votes is unsurprising - MA probably a higher proportion of ConservaDems than any other state, including in the South and West.
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redcommander
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Re: massachussets senate: with high turnout, brown in danger
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December 02, 2010, 06:22:19 pm »
Quote from: Darth Svensson on December 02, 2010, 06:21:21 pm
Quote from: memphis on December 02, 2010, 06:16:38 pm
Like it matters. He'll be teabagged anyway.
Good luck trying to teabag someone who has a 70% approval rating. The tea party would look like hypocrites.
Isn't that Olympia Snowe's approval rating though?
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December 02, 2010, 07:23:12 pm »
Hahahaha, this one is probably my favorite yet, Blubb. Brown's looking better then I expected, but it is still very much a tossup.
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Quote from: N!K on December 02, 2010, 07:23:12 pm
Hahahaha, this one is probably my favorite yet, Blubb. Brown's looking better then I expected, but it is still very much a tossup.
Oh my God it's Vander Blubb.
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Quote from: memphis on December 02, 2010, 06:16:38 pm
Like it matters. He'll be teabagged anyway.
Scott Brown's approvals amongst conservatives is 71–14, and 74–13 amongst all Republicans. There's no room for a challenge from the right.
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Re: massachussets senate: with high turnout, brown in danger
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December 02, 2010, 07:54:43 pm »
Quote from: wormyguy on December 02, 2010, 06:22:07 pm
Interesting notes:
Stephen Lynch has better favorability with self-identified conservatives than liberals.
Lynch is a pro-life Democrat.
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December 02, 2010, 08:15:19 pm »
They over-sampled white voters by about 7%
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Re: massachussets senate: with high turnout, brown in danger
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Quote from: redcommander on December 02, 2010, 06:22:19 pm
Quote from: Darth Svensson on December 02, 2010, 06:21:21 pm
Quote from: memphis on December 02, 2010, 06:16:38 pm
Like it matters. He'll be teabagged anyway.
Good luck trying to teabag someone who has a 70% approval rating. The tea party would look like hypocrites.
Isn't that Olympia Snowe's approval rating though?
I heard hers was more like 40something with disapproval higher. As Moderate said, Brown has 71-14 approvals among conservatives. Basically, the tea party has no chance in hell.
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Re: massachussets senate: with high turnout, brown in danger
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December 02, 2010, 09:03:19 pm »
Brown will have to vote the GOP party line to maintain high approvals among conservatives, which won't do him any favors in the general. If he tries to play the moderate, the Tea Party has it's angle. He's stuck in a very hard place.
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Re: massachussets senate: with high turnout, brown in danger
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December 02, 2010, 09:03:44 pm »
Quote from: Darth Svensson on December 02, 2010, 06:21:21 pm
The tea party would look like hypocrites.
Ummmm...
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Re: massachussets senate: with high turnout, brown in danger
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December 02, 2010, 10:25:57 pm »
Quote from: wormyguy on December 02, 2010, 06:22:07 pm
Interesting notes:
Stephen Lynch has better favorability with self-identified conservatives than liberals.
More people think the GOP is "too liberal" than Scott Brown.
The fact that Brown earns about 25% of Democratic votes is unsurprising - MA probably a higher proportion of ConservaDems than
any other state, including in the South and West
.
More ConservaDems in MA than in WV?!? I'm sure gay marriage and state health insurance are the first things on the agenda in that Democratic trifecta state. And it's not such a fleeting thing in WV either. The Dems gained seats in the state legislature in 2010.
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Re: massachussets senate: with high turnout, brown in danger
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December 03, 2010, 01:09:10 am »
I would never expect Sen. Brown to be safe, this is Massachusetts after all. This was really just a fluke win, in my estimation, and the beginning of the Republican wave that carried over into November's elections. In a normal year, Scott Brown would never have won.
That said, if 2012 is another Republican year, then you never know, he could be safer than expected. All bets are off at that point.
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Re: massachussets senate: with high turnout, brown in danger
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December 03, 2010, 01:44:49 am »
Massachusetts is so heavily Dem that the legislative GOP caucus is a complete joke of virtually no relevance. So anyone seriously into politics has to be a Democrat to make a difference. This means you have tons of conservatives registering as Democrats to vote in the only election that matters (the Democratic primary) and sometimes nominating fairly conservative candidates. So it has a much larger proportion of conservadems than more conservative states, certainly more than places like Michigan.
However I highly doubt it has more than Arkansas.
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Re: massachussets senate: with high turnout, brown in danger
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Quote from: Skill and Chance on December 02, 2010, 10:25:57 pm
Quote from: wormyguy on December 02, 2010, 06:22:07 pm
Interesting notes:
Stephen Lynch has better favorability with self-identified conservatives than liberals.
More people think the GOP is "too liberal" than Scott Brown.
The fact that Brown earns about 25% of Democratic votes is unsurprising - MA probably a higher proportion of ConservaDems than
any other state, including in the South and West
.
More ConservaDems in MA than in WV?!? I'm sure gay marriage and state health insurance are the first things on the agenda in that Democratic trifecta state. And it's not such a fleeting thing in WV either. The Dems gained seats in the state legislature in 2010.
Maybe I'll give you WV (although WV Dems are generally populist, not conservative).
Here's a statistic for people to chew on - Pro-choicers now only have a majority of two members in the state House of Representatives.
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Re: massachussets senate: with high turnout, brown in danger
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December 03, 2010, 02:08:24 pm »
Quote from: FREE LIBERTAS on December 03, 2010, 01:47:31 am
Quote from: Skill and Chance on December 02, 2010, 10:25:57 pm
Quote from: wormyguy on December 02, 2010, 06:22:07 pm
Interesting notes:
Stephen Lynch has better favorability with self-identified conservatives than liberals.
More people think the GOP is "too liberal" than Scott Brown.
The fact that Brown earns about 25% of Democratic votes is unsurprising - MA probably a higher proportion of ConservaDems than
any other state, including in the South and West
.
More ConservaDems in MA than in WV?!? I'm sure gay marriage and state health insurance are the first things on the agenda in that Democratic trifecta state. And it's not such a fleeting thing in WV either. The Dems gained seats in the state legislature in 2010.
Maybe I'll give you WV (although WV Dems are generally populist, not conservative).
Here's a statistic for people to chew on - Pro-choicers now only have a majority of two members in the state House of Representatives.
Arkansas.
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Re: massachussets senate: with high turnout, brown in danger
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December 03, 2010, 02:11:40 pm »
Quote from: Capitan Zapp Brannigan on December 03, 2010, 02:08:24 pm
Quote from: FREE LIBERTAS on December 03, 2010, 01:47:31 am
Quote from: Skill and Chance on December 02, 2010, 10:25:57 pm
Quote from: wormyguy on December 02, 2010, 06:22:07 pm
Interesting notes:
Stephen Lynch has better favorability with self-identified conservatives than liberals.
More people think the GOP is "too liberal" than Scott Brown.
The fact that Brown earns about 25% of Democratic votes is unsurprising - MA probably a higher proportion of ConservaDems than
any other state, including in the South and West
.
More ConservaDems in MA than in WV?!? I'm sure gay marriage and state health insurance are the first things on the agenda in that Democratic trifecta state. And it's not such a fleeting thing in WV either. The Dems gained seats in the state legislature in 2010.
Maybe I'll give you WV (although WV Dems are generally populist, not conservative).
Here's a statistic for people to chew on - Pro-choicers now only have a majority of two members in the state House of Representatives.
Arkansas.
Kentucky, Oklahoma.
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Re: massachussets senate: with high turnout, brown in danger
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December 03, 2010, 07:09:15 pm »
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_MA_1202424.pdf
Scott Brown leads all Democrats - Patrick by 7, Vicki Kennedy by 7, Markey by 10, Capuano by 16, and Lynch by 19.
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