Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
May 23, 2013, 06:25:48 pm
HomePredMockPollEVCalcAFEWIKIHelpLogin Register
News: Cast your ballot in the 2012 Mock Election!

+  Atlas Forum
|-+  General Politics
| |-+  International General Discussion (Moderators: Peter, afleitch)
| | |-+  UN staff ready historic no-confidence vote in Annan
« previous next »
Pages: [1] Print
Author Topic: UN staff ready historic no-confidence vote in Annan  (Read 1454 times)
The Vorlon
Vorlon
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4543


Political Matrix
E: 8.00, S: -4.21

View Profile
« on: November 19, 2004, 01:23:32 pm »
Ignore

It appears that Kofi Annan's level of corruption, gross incompetance, bias, and general level of disconnection from reality has exceeded the capacity of even the UN staff to accept - which is indeed saying something.

It seems letting Saddam skim off $ 21+ Billion from the Oil for PallacesFood program to bribe the French and Germans, torture his own citizens, turn Iraq in a 200,000 sq mile Ammo dump, and fund suicide bombers, not to mention lining the pocket of his own son has caught the eye of at least a few people.

The UN is dangerously close to a joke - a rather rude and public purge of Annan might - barely - salvage the UN a tiny shread of credibility.

I wonder if the staff would have any "side resolutions" other than the one on Annan? - Syria being the chair of the UN Human Rights commission strikes me as an obvious example of UN lunacy which seems to require comment?



UN staff ready historic no-confidence vote in Annan

Fri Nov 19, 6:50 AM ET   World - AFP
 
UNITED NATIONS (AFP) - UN employees are expected to issue an unprecedented vote of no confidence in Secretary-General Kofi Annan (news - web sites), union sources say, after he pardoned the body's top oversight official over a series of allegations.

The UN staff union, in what officials said was the first vote of its kind in the more than 50-year history of the United Nations (news - web sites), was set to approve a resolution withdrawing support for the embattled Annan and senior UN management.

Annan has been in the line of fire over a high-profile series of scandals including controversy about a UN aid programme that investigators say allowed deposed Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) to embezzle billions of dollars.

Staffers said the trigger for the no-confidence measure was an announcement this week that Annan had pardoned the UN's top oversight official, who was facing allegations of favouritism and sexual harassment.

The union had requested a formal probe into the behaviour of the official, Dileep Nair, after employees accused him of harassing members of his staff and violating UN rules on the hiring and promotion of workers.

Top UN spokesman Fred Eckhard announced on Tuesday that Nair had been exonerated by Annan "after a thorough review" by the UN's senior official in charge of management, Catherine Bertini.

Annan underlined that he "had every confidence" in Nair, Eckhard said, but UN employees ridiculed the decision and claimed that investigators had not questioned the staff union, which first raised the complaints in April.

"This was a whitewash, pure and simple," Guy Candusso, a senior member of the staff union, told AFP.

Candusso noted that Eckhard's declaration to the press had said that "no further action was necessary in the matter."

But in a letter sent to the union, a copy of which was obtained by AFP, Annan's chief of staff Iqbal Riza said Nair had been "advised that he should exercise caution" in future to "minimise the risk of negative perception."

In a resolution set to be adopted on Friday, the union said Riza's statement "substantiates the contention of the staff that there was impropriety" and that there exists "a lack of integrity, particularly at the higher levels of the organisation."

The draft resolution, also obtained exclusively by AFP, calls on the union president to "convey this vote of no confidence to the secretary general."

Staffers who asked not to be named, afraid that speaking out could damage their future prospects in the United Nations, said the Nair decision was an example of corruption by Annan and his senior staff.

They noted that Riza, UN undersecretary general for information Shashi Tharoor and other top officials had served directly under Annan at least since 1994, when he was head of UN peacekeeping operations.

At the time, the United Nations was widely criticised for failing to stop the Rwanda genocide that left 800,000 people dead, even though UN peacekeepers were on the ground -- a catastrophe for which Annan has publicly apologised.

Annan could not be reached for immediate comment. He is currently in Africa on a high-profile mission aimed at ending the long-running civil war in Sudan.

The latest crisis comes as Annan faces unprecedented calls to resign over the burgeoning scandal about "oil-for-food," a UN aid scheme that US investigators say allowed Saddam to siphon off billions of dollars.

The programme has tainted longtime UN officials like Benon Sevan, who oversaw the operation and is now accused of pocketing Saddam's money in exchange for turning a blind eye to the Iraqi dictator's abuses.

Annan stands accused of obstructing US investigators, especially since his hand-picked official Paul Volcker this week rejected calls from the US Senate to turn over documents from the programme and waive UN staff immunity.

Eckhard, his spokesman, on Thursday said that Annan is expected to serve out his term, which ends in 2006.

Veteran UN staff said this was the first time in history that employees had risen up en masse to make a vote of no confidence in a sitting secretary general.

"Kofi Annan is surrounded by corruption, a gang of criminals responsible for some of the worst things that happened to mankind in the 20th century," said one angry staffer, referring to the Rwanda massacres.

"It's possible that he doesn't know directly what has gone on," said the employee, who has worked for the United Nations for two decades. "But that's no excuse."
« Last Edit: November 19, 2004, 01:32:00 pm by The Vorlon »Logged

No man's liberty is safe while Congress is in session...Thomas Jefferson


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bavou_SEj1Epresidential
MODU
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 22187
United States


View Profile WWW
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2004, 02:47:57 pm »
Ignore



About time.

You know, at this point, I wouldn't even mind if Clinton begame the new Secretary General (the US has yet to hold that position) if it means we get someone else into that position.  Maybe Clinton would actually step up to the plate and call for a massive change in philosophy within the UN, making people responsible for their actions.

Anything is a start.
Logged

Attention bloggers:  Join SeededBuzz and gain access to thousands of new readers.  Simply paste a link and summary of your article for community members to link back to, drawing more activity to your site.  Membership is FREE!

Visit MODU's Musings


"Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done and President Bush, let them go to hell." - Betty Dawisha, Iraqi vote
Sam Spade
SamSpade
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 27978


Political Matrix
E: 2.84, S: 0.00

View Profile
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2004, 02:54:29 pm »
Ignore

It's about time.

We should still plan on converting the UN building into apartments for sale on the East River as soon as possible.
Logged
Sam Spade
SamSpade
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 27978


Political Matrix
E: 2.84, S: 0.00

View Profile
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2004, 02:56:10 pm »
Ignore



About time.

You know, at this point, I wouldn't even mind if Clinton begame the new Secretary General (the US has yet to hold that position) if it means we get someone else into that position.  Maybe Clinton would actually step up to the plate and call for a massive change in philosophy within the UN, making people responsible for their actions.

Anything is a start.

Historically, Secretary-Generals of the UN have come from third-world countries.

Now I know Arkansas comes pretty close to being a third-world country, but I honestly don't think that the UN would let that slide even for Bill Clinton.
Logged
MODU
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 22187
United States


View Profile WWW
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2004, 03:44:06 pm »
Ignore



About time.

You know, at this point, I wouldn't even mind if Clinton begame the new Secretary General (the US has yet to hold that position) if it means we get someone else into that position.  Maybe Clinton would actually step up to the plate and call for a massive change in philosophy within the UN, making people responsible for their actions.

Anything is a start.

Historically, Secretary-Generals of the UN have come from third-world countries.

Now I know Arkansas comes pretty close to being a third-world country, but I honestly don't think that the UN would let that slide even for Bill Clinton.

The Secretary General is selected by regions.  North America has yet to be selected, neither has the Far East.    I'm trying my best to find the name of the Asian guy which has also come to the fore-front as a possible contender, but it's just not coming to me at the moment.  When I find his name, I'll provide it.  However, with the location of the UN (in New York) plus the threat by Bush to pull all funding for the UN until they open the investigation into the oil-for-food scandal, there is a lot of weight to give the nod to North America.  And let's not forget the fact that the UN building is falling apart.  Without US funding, who is going to pay to repair it, and where are they going to get the money?

And I hate to say it . . . but Clinton has a lot of international appeal.  If his name were to come up, there is a good chance that he might get tapped.  I'm not 100% sure as to how the whole selection process works though.  I'll have to see if I can find some information on that this weekend.
Logged

Attention bloggers:  Join SeededBuzz and gain access to thousands of new readers.  Simply paste a link and summary of your article for community members to link back to, drawing more activity to your site.  Membership is FREE!

Visit MODU's Musings


"Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done and President Bush, let them go to hell." - Betty Dawisha, Iraqi vote
Sibboleth
Realpolitik
Moderators
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 53019
Norway


View Profile WWW
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2004, 04:26:22 pm »
Ignore

Lets hope they don't pick another Nazi War Criminal. And lets hope that said Nazi is not later elected President of his country. And lets hope that said President is not praised by a future Governer of California.
Logged

'Gentlemen, a desert. A place of savage reference for the good people of Ohio. A place to fear and love. A blasted region. Something to remind us what we hewed out of. A place without malls. An Other for Ohio's Self. Cacti and scorpions and the sun bearing down. Desolation. A place for people to wander alone. To reflect. Away from everything. Gentlemen, a desert.'
MODU
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 22187
United States


View Profile WWW
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2004, 04:36:17 pm »
Ignore

Lets hope they don't pick another Nazi War Criminal. And lets hope that said Nazi is not later elected President of his country. And lets hope that said President is not praised by a future Governer of California.

Huh
Logged

Attention bloggers:  Join SeededBuzz and gain access to thousands of new readers.  Simply paste a link and summary of your article for community members to link back to, drawing more activity to your site.  Membership is FREE!

Visit MODU's Musings


"Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done and President Bush, let them go to hell." - Betty Dawisha, Iraqi vote
Sibboleth
Realpolitik
Moderators
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 53019
Norway


View Profile WWW
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2004, 04:39:20 pm »
Ignore

Lets hope they don't pick another Nazi War Criminal. And lets hope that said Nazi is not later elected President of his country. And lets hope that said President is not praised by a future Governer of California.

Huh

Kurt Waldheim
Logged

'Gentlemen, a desert. A place of savage reference for the good people of Ohio. A place to fear and love. A blasted region. Something to remind us what we hewed out of. A place without malls. An Other for Ohio's Self. Cacti and scorpions and the sun bearing down. Desolation. A place for people to wander alone. To reflect. Away from everything. Gentlemen, a desert.'
True Federalist
Ernest
Moderators
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 21547
United States


View Profile WWW
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2004, 08:11:51 pm »
Ignore

The Secretary General is selected by regions.  North America has yet to be selected, neither has the Far East.

I guess you don't consider Burma to be part of the Far East.

The next SG will likely be from Asia.  Surakiart Sathirathai, the Foreign Minister of Thailand, is said to be a leading choice of China and the United States by some sources, I've seen, but I can't judge the quality of those sources.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2004, 11:21:27 am by SE Gov. Ernest »Logged

“Always it is easier to pay homage to prophets than to heed the direction of their vision.”
                Clinton Lee Scott

Read Fat Man on a Diet, an alternate history in which the history of atomic weapons does not go as it did in our timeline.
The Man From G.O.P.
TJN2024
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 5474
United States


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2004, 08:35:44 pm »
Ignore

Too bad it won't go through and too bad there reasons for this vote has nothing to do with oil-for-food (its good that its happening anyway
Logged


We have a new Labour leader!
MODU
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 22187
United States


View Profile WWW
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2004, 09:16:44 pm »
Ignore

The Secretary General is selected by regions.  North America has yet to be selected, neither has the Far East.

I guess you don't consider Burma to be part of the Far East.

The next SG will likely be from Asia.  Surakiart Sathirathai, the Foreign Minister of Thailand, is said to be a leading choice of China and the United States by some sources, I've seen, but I can't judge the quality of those sources.

Not me . . . the UN.  Actually, they refer the Far East as part of "Oceania."  The Asian's name that I couldn't remember earlier was Surakiart Sathirathai from Thailand.  If going by order, Oceania should be the next region from which the new Secretary General should be coming from, however, if someone like Clinton becomes a realistic contender for the position, North America could skip Oceania in the selection process due to popular support.
Logged

Attention bloggers:  Join SeededBuzz and gain access to thousands of new readers.  Simply paste a link and summary of your article for community members to link back to, drawing more activity to your site.  Membership is FREE!

Visit MODU's Musings


"Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done and President Bush, let them go to hell." - Betty Dawisha, Iraqi vote
Democratic Hawk
LucysBeau
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 14739
United Kingdom


View Profile
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2004, 10:42:53 am »
Ignore

Kofi Annan has been hopeless

Dave
Logged

Moderate Liberal Populist Smiley [Personal 45%/Economic 42%] / Defense 'Hawk'

Registered in Georgia for Fantasy Politics
Platypus
hughento
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 20868
Australia


View Profile
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2004, 11:07:09 pm »
Ignore

We had the first secretary general, but I don't think we'll be getting another anytime soon. Although I strongly doubt he'd want it (or get it because of his religious post) Jose Ramos Horta (Timor-Leste) has been mentioned. He was the East Timorese 'representative' in the UN for ages and he punches above Et's weight by massive levels. I'd support it, but he wouldn't get it :S
Logged

AuH2O
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4256


View Profile
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2004, 03:53:12 pm »
Ignore

I'll take a reformed 'Nazi' over some piece of crap like Annan. Unlike some people, I was never fooled... I mean, the guy's IQ is like 75, so all things considered I'm impressed he was able to be as corrupt as he is.
Logged

don't forget to remember, the devil's got pills in his eyes

look, laugh, but don't touch... cut you down to size
stry_cat
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 369


Political Matrix
E: 6.25, S: -1.38

P P P

View Profile
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2004, 08:55:10 am »
Ignore

I'll take a reformed 'Nazi' over some piece of crap like Annan. Unlike some people, I was never fooled... I mean, the guy's IQ is like 75, so all things considered I'm impressed he was able to be as corrupt as he is.
I can see his defense now...My IQ is only 75 I'm too stupid to know right from wrong.
Logged

M
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2504


View Profile
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2004, 11:27:35 am »
Ignore

Does anyone know the views of the Thai fellow on nuclear proliferation and the Arab-Israeli conflict?
Logged

Recently moved to Jackson, Mississippi.
Blue Rectangle
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2688


Political Matrix
E: 8.50, S: -0.62

View Profile
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2004, 01:21:09 pm »
Ignore

The State Dept. is being somewhat supportive of Annan, to the chagrin of many Republicans.  Is this:
A) Signs of the State Department's continued insubordination.
B) Bush's attempt to remain above the fray and let Congress do the dirty work (good cop/bad cop).
C) A sign that Bush would prefer Annan stay for the time being.  (Is having Annan paralyzed by scandal preferable to a new SG?)

I’m leaning towards B, but the others seem plausible.
Logged
Richard
Richius
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4395


Political Matrix
E: 8.40, S: 2.80

View Profile
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2004, 11:50:22 pm »
Ignore

Bush and Condi needs to clean out the People's State Department like they're doing with the CIA.  Fire everyone and start from scratch.
Logged
Pages: [1] Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Logout

Powered by SMF 1.1.18 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines
Forums Directory