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« on: December 10, 2010, 04:17:57 pm »
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PPP poll of Michigan:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_MI_1210.pdf

Huckabee 22%
Romney 22%
Palin 18%
Gingrich 15%
Paul 10%
Pawlenty 3%
Daniels 2%
Thune 1%

favorable / unfavorable among GOP primary voters:

Gingrich 52% / 26%
Huckabee 63% / 20%
Palin 64% / 28%
Romney 66% / 18%

Huckabee leads among women, and Romney leads among men.
Huckabee leads among those 30-45, while Romney leads among those over 45.
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2010, 04:35:17 pm »
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     Ouch for Romney. He needs to do better than this in Michigan if he is going to actually win.
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2010, 04:41:57 pm »
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Red- Giant Douche; Blue - Huck, Pink - Palin;Light Green - T-Paw; Green - Gingrich White - tie
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2010, 04:43:30 pm »
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Romney is dead in the water, Huck is the presumptive nominee at this point.
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2010, 05:33:56 pm »
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Romney is dead in the water, Huck is the presumptive nominee at this point.

he would dominate if 1) he could raise the money and 2) didn't have clemency

but because of that...he wouldn't last the primaries.
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2010, 07:26:54 pm »
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Romney is dead in the water, Huck is the presumptive nominee at this point.

he would dominate if 1) he could raise the money and 2) didn't have clemency

but because of that...he wouldn't last the primaries.
I really don't see #2 becoming an issue at all.
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2010, 07:29:00 pm »
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Then again, I always found it annoying that MI was percieved safe for Romney just because his father (!) was governor. Even though Romney could never win MA, which he himself governed (not in the general, anyway)
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2010, 07:35:44 pm »
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Then again, I always found it annoying that MI was percieved safe for Romney just because his father (!) was governor. Even though Romney could never win MA, which he himself governed (not in the general, anyway)
Or because he managed to win there in 2008 even though McCain clearly had the momentum at the time...
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2010, 08:14:25 pm »
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Wow. I would think this would be one of Romney's best states. I'm surprised to see him only tied.
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2010, 12:05:54 am »
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Then again, I always found it annoying that MI was percieved safe for Romney just because his father (!) was governor. Even though Romney could never win MA, which he himself governed (not in the general, anyway)
Or because he managed to win there in 2008 even though McCain clearly had the momentum at the time...

momentum made it closer, Romney was dominating the state no matter the losses before that
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2010, 12:07:00 am »
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Romney is dead in the water, Huck is the presumptive nominee at this point.

he would dominate if 1) he could raise the money and 2) didn't have clemency

but because of that...he wouldn't last the primaries.
I really don't see #2 becoming an issue at all.

I think it will be a focus point of democrats saying he'll make the wrong decisions, republican candidates (minus T-Paw) saying he's soft on crime, and the media just to make noise. Then again...it could be not an issue since it's already been out there for a year and not like the Bush DUI at the end of his 2000 campaign
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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2010, 05:00:08 am »
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RomneyFail

Then again, I always found it annoying that MI was percieved safe for Romney just because his father (!) was governor. Even though Romney could never win MA, which he himself governed (not in the general, anyway)
Or because he managed to win there in 2008 even though McCain clearly had the momentum at the time...

momentum made it closer, Romney was dominating the state no matter the losses before that

What really won Michigan for Romney was $.  He outspent McCain and Huckabee by enormous margins.  He also outspent them in Iowa and NH, but advertising matters less in those states than others, and retail politics matters more.

$ is also how he managed to briefly take the lead in the polls in FL, even after McCain got a momentum boost from winning SC.  But Crist's endorsement of McCain robbed Romney of the chance of scoring an upset victory there.
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« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2010, 05:03:04 am »
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Don't bother coming back, Mitt. We still don't want you.
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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2010, 03:22:08 pm »
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Don't bother coming back, Mitt. We still don't want you.

I just can't see how he wins without being the clear frontrunner from the start. He only can really move downhill from here
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« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2010, 06:29:55 pm »
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The Biggest Douche Ever tied with the Criminals' Best Friend? Not a good sign for the BDE.
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« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2010, 06:55:10 pm »
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Republicans are idiots if they nominate someone other than Romney out of that dashingly appealing group of potential nominees such as the wonderful Rick Santorum and brilliant Mike Huckabee and Sarah Palin. Tongue BTW McCain was supposedly dead on arrival in mid 07. If anyone is claiming the same for Romney they are underestimating him.
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« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2010, 07:06:22 pm »
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Republicans are idiots if they nominate someone other than Romney

So basically, Republicans are idiots if they don't nominate the third coming of Bush?
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« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2010, 07:08:25 pm »
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Republicans are idiots if they nominate someone other than Romney

So basically, Republicans are idiots if they don't nominate the third coming of Bush?

How is Romney like Bush again? If anyone in the Republican field is like Bush it's Mike Huckabee and John Thune.
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« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2010, 07:09:48 pm »
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BTW McCain was supposedly dead on arrival in mid 07. If anyone is claiming the same for Romney they are underestimating him.

Ah, yes.  Sure is good living under President McCain.
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« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2010, 07:16:26 pm »
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BTW McCain was supposedly dead on arrival in mid 07. If anyone is claiming the same for Romney they are underestimating him.

Ah, yes.  Sure is good living under President McCain.

He was nominated is what I mean.
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« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2010, 08:22:38 pm »
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Republicans are idiots if they nominate someone other than Romney

So basically, Republicans are idiots if they don't nominate the third coming of Bush?

How is Romney like Bush again?

Every conceivable area. In fact, I'd venture to say that Romney is, in fact, worse than Bush - because at least Bush was consistently horrible, whereas Romney seems to want to touch upon ever horrible ideology there is for his own personal benefit.
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« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2010, 10:03:23 pm »
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Republicans are idiots if they nominate someone other than Romney

Mitch Daniels? Tongue I agree I do not want the GOP to nominate some of their candidates, but saying that they are idiots for nominating someone other then Romney is, well "..."

Republicans are idiots if they nominate someone other than Romney

So basically, Republicans are idiots if they don't nominate the third coming of Bush?

Romney is not the third coming of Bush. He's the Republican version of John Kerry.
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« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2010, 03:57:54 am »
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Republicans are idiots if they nominate someone other than Romney

Mitch Daniels? Tongue I agree I do not want the GOP to nominate some of their candidates, but saying that they are idiots for nominating someone other then Romney is, well "..."

Republicans are idiots if they nominate someone other than Romney

So basically, Republicans are idiots if they don't nominate the third coming of Bush?

Romney is not the third coming of Bush. He's the Republican version of John Kerry.

If anyone is the Republican version of Kerry its Daniels. How you heard the man speak? We already put up a bore last time around who couldn't compete on the stump with Obama.
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