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« on: December 11, 2010, 05:02:47 PM »

http://blogs.ajc.com/georgia_elections_news/2010/12/09/black-county-commissioner-switches-parties-joins-gop/

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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2010, 05:09:32 PM »

It's kinda sad that the story here isn't Democrats switching party, its that they're black.

If it's truly for ideology(and on Walker's part it's more likely that it is) I welcome them with open arms!
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2010, 05:30:08 PM »

Barack Obama will go down in history as the man who destroyed his own party.
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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2010, 05:46:08 PM »

I'm surprised that Bell even got elected and that he didn't switch parties earlier. Hall County is 81% white and voted 74% for McCain in 2008.
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2010, 05:49:47 PM »

I'm surprised that Bell even got elected and that he didn't switch parties earlier. Hall County is 81% white and voted 74% for McCain in 2008.

There is one >90% Obama heavily black* precinct. Meaning Bell has no chance whenever he's up for reelection again assuming he even runs.

*It's really only about 60% black, but most of the rest is Hispanics who don't vote.
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2010, 05:52:39 PM »

While I like that Democrats are joining the GOP and that African Americans are joining the GOP, it seems kind of contradictory to the color blind society we're trying to create when the name of a thread is "Two black Democrats bolt for the GOP in Georgia".

Indeed.  We still have a culture that treats blacks and whites as "separate but equal."
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2010, 06:00:57 PM »

Barack Obama will go down in history as the man who destroyed his own party.

Just another sign of the deluge.
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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2010, 06:39:59 PM »

Barack Obama will go down in history as the man who destroyed his own party.

Just another sign of the deluge.

What?
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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2010, 08:41:06 PM »

I thought I read "Congressmen" in here, and thought David Scott and Sanford Bishop jumped ship. Tongue Hey, they are both Blue Dogs, so...

Anyways, what's their reasoning?
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2010, 08:42:05 PM »

Opportunity, pure and simple. There was Democratic State Rep. from Athens who changed to the GOP, which was totally necessary since Athens is very Democratic.  Switching to the majority party equals more perks, lots of Democrats switched to Republican after the 1994 election and it didn't mean Clinton was destroying the party.
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2010, 05:37:06 AM »

While I like that Democrats are joining the GOP and that African Americans are joining the GOP, it seems kind of contradictory to the color blind society we're trying to create when the name of a thread is "Two black Democrats bolt for the GOP in Georgia".

I could edit it if people would like me to. I was just pointing out the story since it seems pretty rare for an African American politician to switch to the Republicans in recent years.
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2010, 03:17:01 PM »

Barack Obama will go down in history as the man who destroyed his own party.

Just another sign of the deluge.

One county commissioner and one person not in office. Ok.
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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2010, 02:00:05 AM »

As always, if they want to join, I'm happy to have them in the party.
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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2010, 02:56:50 AM »

Barack Obama will go down in history as the man who destroyed his own party.

Just another sign of the deluge.

One county commissioner and one person not in office. Ok.

Haha. I assumed that these people were vaguely relevant, like state legislators, or something. Silly me.
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« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2010, 03:08:18 AM »

Anyone want to take a bet that Artur Davis will be the next to follow them?
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« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2010, 03:10:53 AM »

Anyone want to take a bet that Artur Davis will be the next to follow them?

He doesn't have anything to gain, so no. Party switchers make lousy lobbyists.
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« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2010, 01:12:41 PM »

Barack Obama will go down in history as the man who destroyed his own party.
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« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2010, 01:13:41 PM »

Actually after playing with the redistricting app a bit I see the most black you can get a Hall County Commissioner district (there appears to be 4) is about 18%. Bell says in the article “My district is pretty Republican as it is”, so he probably was already a conservative Blue Dog anyway.

So yeah a county commission for a really conservative county and a guy not in office just switched parties. Clearly a sign of a complete disaster for Obama and the destruction of the Democratic Party.
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« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2010, 01:14:59 PM »

Anyone want to take a bet that Artur Davis will be the next to follow them?

He doesn't have anything to gain, so no. Party switchers make lousy lobbyists.
Exactly. He's worthless to his employers without the "Democrat" label.
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« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2010, 01:18:31 PM »

I suspect that Davis will become one of those media whores just raving about how their party has moved so far to the left and is so extremist, like Zell Miller used to be (the media basically quit paying attention to him after the 2006 election.) or like Joe Lieberman would no doubt be if he had been defeated by Lamont.

You know as much as I'd hate to, I'll give Lieberman credit for one thing: He is one of the strongest advocates in the Senate for repealing DADT. I bet if he lost he would probably be media-whoring even against that and probably would have been endorsing people like Sharron Angle. Of course I'd rather have him out of office since he'd be far less damaging as an ex-Senator than now.
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« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2010, 11:17:24 AM »
« Edited: December 14, 2010, 11:19:17 AM by Bacon King »

I know Ashley Bell. This move is NOTHING but opportunism.

He was the National President of College Dems for two terms, from 2002 to 2004. He was a DNC delegate in 2000 and again in 2004. He spoke at the latter one. Those sorts of partisan positions don't just happen by chance; to get that far within the party you pretty much have to be a diehard partisan and ideologue.

Here's a photo from 2005 showing notes he wrote on the board during a "Progressive" meeting at North Georgia College's Democratic group. Note: "Not Republican-Lite", har har.

Here's an article he wrote shortly before the 2004 election; some highlights:

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Bell complains that the Democratic party has "chosen" the path of liberalism, BUT HE WAS PART OF THAT PATH! He self-identified as a "progressive" with some pretty leftist beliefs; in switching parties he's selling out pretty much everything he's ever stood for. This is a blind move of ambition on his part; he wants a future but is afraid he won't even be reelected in two years. He's thrown his old views under the bus for political expediency, and there's not really anything else someone can get from this.
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« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2010, 11:04:39 AM »

Barack Obama will go down in history as the man who destroyed his own party.

Just another sign of the deluge.

One county commissioner and one person not in office. Ok.

Actually, it is a sign of a realignment when members of a traditional core group switch parties.  Granted, it is just a small sign, but it is one.
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« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2010, 11:07:42 AM »

Two blacks have switched parties. HUGE shift on voting patterns for sure.
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« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2010, 11:16:45 AM »

Two blacks have switched parties. HUGE shift on voting patterns for sure.

Yes, there are approximately 2,000,000 more voting-age African-American Georgians to follow.
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« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2010, 03:18:54 PM »

Actually, it is a sign of a realignment when members of a traditional core group switch parties.  Granted, it is just a small sign, but it is one.

A Luzerne County Commissioner switched from the Republican Party to the Democratic Party.

http://www.politicspa.com/luzerne-commissioner-switches-to-dem-gop-swings-back/19346/

This may be a sign of the deluge.
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