US House Redistricting: Wisconsin

[Torie]

Here's an article about a proposed Congressional map being passed around. PDF of the map is here.

Drops WI-07 down to 53-45 Obama and pushes WI-03 up to 59-39 Obama. All the other districts look to be pretty much unchanged, number-wise.

A competent map, with the innovation that Stevens Point is put in the west Wisconsin Dem CD, while WI-07 picks up GOP St. Croix. But WI-07 and WI-01 are too marginal for my taste. Granted, Ryan while he runs for re-election will do just fine.

[Wrecking Ball and Chain]

Ryan did just fine before he became the main person behind something that is causing the GOP serious pain in far more conservative districts.

[Dgov]

Ryan did just fine before he became the main person behind something that is causing the GOP serious pain in far more conservative districts.

. . . Because Democrats have never tried to paint him as an extremest before.

I have (Liberal) family in his district, and from what i hear the Democrats have a better shot at dislodging Sensenbrenner than Ryan.  The man is a political maestro, and the "Ryan Medicare plan will sink the Republicans" line falls kind of flat when the June recess just passed without incidence.  Unless the Dems win like 270 seats in 2012, he'll win.

[Wrecking Ball and Chain]

Yeah the Ryan Medicare plan didn't cause any problems for the GOP in NY-26 obviously.

[Dgov]

Yeah the Ryan Medicare plan didn't cause any problems for the GOP in NY-26 obviously.

Well, i could argue about that, but that's not my point.  We just had a big congressional recess, and you guys couldn't even scoop up a few busloads of protestors to make a scene?

[Invisible Obama]

Ryan is headed for a Portillo Moment, no doubt about it. Duffy is still marginal, there's very little that could be done for him and his far to gaffe prone to ever be really secure.

[Wrecking Ball and Chain]

Why bother with protesters? It has zero chance of actually passing the Senate or getting past Obama's desk. On the other hand look at how insanely unpopular the GOP in general is in Wisconsin right now.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

Yeah the Ryan Medicare plan didn't cause any problems for the GOP in NY-26 obviously.

Well, i could argue about that, but that's not my point.  We just had a big congressional recess, and you guys couldn't even scoop up a few busloads of protestors to make a scene?

The media doesn't care about protests in DC unless it's a Tea Party rally.

[cinyc]

There are rumors that the Republicans are going to try to shove through redistricting in a special session this week.

All 3 levels?

I'm not sure, but I don't see how they could do Congressional redistricting without the new ward data (since they would need to have zero deviation, while state legislative districts get a 5% leeway). Besides, they just need to do the state legislature right now to screw up the recalls.

Why is ward data even relevant?  The census block level data has been available for months.  That's what most states use to draw their maps, anyway.  Wards can be drawn from blocks, too.

[Senator MaxQue]

There are rumors that the Republicans are going to try to shove through redistricting in a special session this week.

All 3 levels?

I'm not sure, but I don't see how they could do Congressional redistricting without the new ward data (since they would need to have zero deviation, while state legislative districts get a 5% leeway). Besides, they just need to do the state legislature right now to screw up the recalls.

Why is ward data even relevant?  The census block level data has been available for months.  That's what most states use to draw their maps, anyway.  Wards can be drawn from blocks, too.

If I remember what I read a while ago, the Wisconsin is than the counties draw the wards during the summer and the Legislature draw the map the Fall after that, basing it on the new wards.

[cinyc]

There are rumors that the Republicans are going to try to shove through redistricting in a special session this week.

All 3 levels?

I'm not sure, but I don't see how they could do Congressional redistricting without the new ward data (since they would need to have zero deviation, while state legislative districts get a 5% leeway). Besides, they just need to do the state legislature right now to screw up the recalls.

Why is ward data even relevant?  The census block level data has been available for months.  That's what most states use to draw their maps, anyway.  Wards can be drawn from blocks, too.

If I remember what I read a while ago, the Wisconsin is than the counties draw the wards during the summer and the Legislature draw the map the Fall after that, basing it on the new wards.

Well, if that's just the current law, it can be changed.  A past legislature can't bind the current one.

[Wiz from Wis in Mass]

There are rumors that the Republicans are going to try to shove through redistricting in a special session this week.

All 3 levels?

I'm not sure, but I don't see how they could do Congressional redistricting without the new ward data (since they would need to have zero deviation, while state legislative districts get a 5% leeway). Besides, they just need to do the state legislature right now to screw up the recalls.

Why is ward data even relevant?  The census block level data has been available for months.  That's what most states use to draw their maps, anyway.  Wards can be drawn from blocks, too.

If I remember what I read a while ago, the Wisconsin is than the counties draw the wards during the summer and the Legislature draw the map the Fall after that, basing it on the new wards.

Well, if that's just the current law, it can be changed.  A past legislature can't bind the current one.

The problem with changing the current law is that it would increase costs on local governments by hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars. Precints are set at the local level. If the state passes a bill that currently divides a precint, then local governments will have to scramble to draw new precinct boundaries. This will cost them money, both in the hours worked to draw the new maps, but in the voter education material that would have to be redesigned, printed and mailed. Unless the borders are based on existing municipal lines, I don't see how the GOP could pull this off without pissing off every local elected clear and board.

Not that this group seems interested in playing with others.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

So yes, they are trying to ram through maps before the recalls.

[BigSkyBob]

So yes, they are trying to ram through maps before the recalls.

Where in the article does it say, "They are trying to ram through maps before the recalls?"

[Landslide Lyndon]

So yes, they are trying to ram through maps before the recalls.

Where in the article does it say, "They are trying to ram through maps before the recalls?"

Keep looking. When you find it, come back and post again.

[Former Moderate]

So yes, they are trying to ram through maps before the recalls.

Well, duh.

[Mr.Phips]

This is something that Democrats should have done in New York in 2009/2010 to ensure that they kept the State Senate in 2010. 

[BigSkyBob]

So yes, they are trying to ram through maps before the recalls.

Where in the article does it say, "They are trying to ram through maps before the recalls?"

Keep looking. When you find it, come back and post again.

The article noted the Speaker of the House as saying he hadn't decided anything one way or the other.

[Landslide Lyndon]

So yes, they are trying to ram through maps before the recalls.

Where in the article does it say, "They are trying to ram through maps before the recalls?"

Keep looking. When you find it, come back and post again.

The article noted the Speaker of the House as saying he hadn't decided anything one way or the other.

You aren't very bright, are you?

[BigSkyBob]

So yes, they are trying to ram through maps before the recalls.

Where in the article does it say, "They are trying to ram through maps before the recalls?"

Keep looking. When you find it, come back and post again.

The article noted the Speaker of the House as saying he hadn't decided anything one way or the other.

You aren't very bright, are you?

I know when speculation is presented as fact, and I know what Saul Alinski had to say about the use of sarcasm.

P.S. Resorting to sarcasm is an admission on your part that you were wrong, isn't it?

[BigSkyBob]

This is something that Democrats should have done in New York in 2009/2010 to ensure that they kept the State Senate in 2010. 

Pray tell how the Democrats in the State Senate were suppose to do it when the NY state Constitution requires that official census figures be used for the '02 years only to redistrict.

[Landslide Lyndon]

So yes, they are trying to ram through maps before the recalls.

Where in the article does it say, "They are trying to ram through maps before the recalls?"

Keep looking. When you find it, come back and post again.

The article noted the Speaker of the House as saying he hadn't decided anything one way or the other.

You aren't very bright, are you?

I know when speculation is presented as fact, and I know what Saul Alinski had to say about the use of sarcasm.

P.S. Resorting to sarcasm is an admission on your part that you were wrong, isn't it?

Reading Saul Alinski won't help you with the girls.

[BigSkyBob]

So yes, they are trying to ram through maps before the recalls.

Where in the article does it say, "They are trying to ram through maps before the recalls?"

Keep looking. When you find it, come back and post again.

The article noted the Speaker of the House as saying he hadn't decided anything one way or the other.

You aren't very bright, are you?

I know when speculation is presented as fact, and I know what Saul Alinski had to say about the use of sarcasm.

P.S. Resorting to sarcasm is an admission on your part that you were wrong, isn't it?

Reading Saul Alinski won't help you with the girls.

Being familiar with Saul Alinski will help one with ad hominem abuse posters on the internet.

 

[Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Must every redistricting thread be ruined so? I have enough trouble getting the maps to load as it is, I prefer not to waste my bandwidth on such insignificant trash as this.

[krazen1211]

Angry old man Dave Obey is back again.

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/opinion/column/dave_zweifel/article_60aa17d8-a343-11e0-80bf-001cc4c03286.html

Former U.S. Rep. Dave Obey stopped by the office last week on his statewide tour to alert Wisconsin citizens about the "crassly political" reapportionment plan that the state's Republican congressional delegation, led by Rep. Paul Ryan, is touting.




What is this guy's deal? Regret over retiring?