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Question: Is it hypocritical to oppose private education and support legal prostitution?
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« on: December 13, 2010, 07:07:11 PM »

I'm not making this poll to "make a point" either. I thought about it and decided Gustaf did have a bit of point here when he basically said this, though I obviously still disagree.
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2010, 07:12:26 PM »

Wow, one of the few cases where I agree with one of BRTD's responses to his poll.  Of course, there are a whole lot of other things that I'd consider hypocritical along with that.
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2010, 07:15:15 PM »

In what way is it hypocritical? Is the support for public education comparable to the right to sell one's body? 
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2010, 07:19:37 PM »

In what way is it hypocritical? Is the support for public education comparable to the right to sell one's body? 

Gustaf's argument was basically that it's really weird to consider it immoral to oppose paying for education but not sex because that involves selling humans or something.
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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2010, 07:25:25 PM »

I don't get it.

They are two different issues.
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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2010, 07:45:10 PM »

Gustaf's entire argument re: prostitution in that thread is kind of retarded.
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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2010, 08:38:58 PM »

also what does "oppose private education" mean
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2010, 09:06:31 PM »

also what does "oppose private education" mean

I'd rather it not exist. As it does I'd prefer simply banning any type of government funds to it.
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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2010, 09:45:41 PM »

No, these are two different issues.

In what way is it hypocritical? Is the support for public education comparable to the right to sell one's body? 

Gustaf's argument was basically that it's really weird to consider it immoral to oppose paying for education but not sex because that involves selling humans or something.

Not being able to pay for education means it that would all be provided by the government. Not being able to pay for sex means that one could get it for no pay with a consenting person (without involvement of the government), or not at all.
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2010, 04:49:37 AM »

Not being able to pay for sex means that one could get it for no pay with a consenting person (without involvement of the government), or not at all.

Actually I think if we had a reasonable dole, even the poor/unemployed could afford something once in a blue moon.  Maybe just a second rate happy ending every month or two, but lets be humane here.
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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2010, 07:13:07 AM »

I'm getting fed up with those "Is it hypocritical" threads.

And either way, no, it isn't.
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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2010, 09:44:25 PM »

Depends.  Consistency would require that legal prostitution occur only in government-run brothels.
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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2010, 07:13:35 AM »

Eh. Ftr, I never said it was flat-out hypocritical to have a given combination of views on these issues. I think it's a bit odd to think that certain things are to sacrosanct to be allowed to be defiled by the vile mechanisms of the market but then around and say that the human body isn't in that category.

One may obviously have other reasons to hold various views on these positions that removes this tension though.

I would like to note though that prostitution is essentially based on a class hierarchy which makes it amusing to watch left-wingers praise it. It is, essentially, about the rich buying the bodies of the poor which strikes me as more repulsive than the rich buying a somewhat better education than the poor.
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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2010, 12:00:38 PM »

Eh. Ftr, I never said it was flat-out hypocritical to have a given combination of views on these issues. I think it's a bit odd to think that certain things are to sacrosanct to be allowed to be defiled by the vile mechanisms of the market but then around and say that the human body isn't in that category.

One may obviously have other reasons to hold various views on these positions that removes this tension though.

I would like to note though that prostitution is essentially based on a class hierarchy which makes it amusing to watch left-wingers praise it. It is, essentially, about the rich buying the bodies of the poor which strikes me as more repulsive than the rich buying a somewhat better education than the poor.

There's a guy I work with who has admitted that he hired an escort during his extreme depression following his divorce. With typical escort prices they sure as hell make a lot more annually than we do.
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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2010, 01:26:21 PM »

Eh. Ftr, I never said it was flat-out hypocritical to have a given combination of views on these issues. I think it's a bit odd to think that certain things are to sacrosanct to be allowed to be defiled by the vile mechanisms of the market but then around and say that the human body isn't in that category.

One may obviously have other reasons to hold various views on these positions that removes this tension though.

I would like to note though that prostitution is essentially based on a class hierarchy which makes it amusing to watch left-wingers praise it. It is, essentially, about the rich buying the bodies of the poor which strikes me as more repulsive than the rich buying a somewhat better education than the poor.

There's a guy I work with who has admitted that he hired an escort during his extreme depression following his divorce. With typical escort prices they sure as hell make a lot more annually than we do.

The escort for the guy you work with probably isn't the most representative face of prostitution though. Again, if you look at the typical background of a prostitute, what countries they come from and so on you're going to see a pattern that suggests this isn't the top choice for most people.
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