WI-PPP: The return of Sen. Feingold ?

[Tender Branson]

(if Sen. Kohl, aged 77, decides to retire):

48% - Herb Kohl (D)
42% - Paul Ryan (R)

49% - Herb Kohl (D)
40% - Tommy Thompson (R)

51% - Herb Kohl (D)
38% - JB Van Hollen (R)

...

50% - Russ Feingold (D)
43% - Paul Ryan (R)

49% - Russ Feingold (D)
40% - Tommy Thompson (R)

52% - Russ Feingold (D)
41% - JB Van Hollen (R)

...

Do you approve or disapprove of Senator Herb Kohl’s job performance?

50-35

Do you approve or disapprove of Senator Russ Feingold’s job performance?

50-43

Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Ron Johnson?

42-39

Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Paul Ryan?

38-30

Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Tommy Thompson?

44-43

Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of JB Van Hollen?

32-29

PPP surveyed 702 Wisconsin voters from December 10th to 12th. The survey’s margin of error is +/-3.7%. Other factors, such as refusal to be interviewed and weighting, may introduce additional error that is more difficult to quantify.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_WI_1214913.pdf

[Lief 🗽]

Oh, now you want Russ to be your Senator!

F***ing Wisconsin.

[Brittain33]

This has me more worried about PPP's reliability than enthusiastic about the 2012 race. What is the explanation for Feingold's and Johnson's approvals being this way so soon after an election where Johnson won by 5 points? Can a changing electorate make that much of a difference?

[Tender Branson]

This has me more worried about PPP's reliability than enthusiastic about the 2012 race. What is the explanation for Feingold's and Johnson's approvals being this way so soon after an election where Johnson won by 5 points? Can a changing electorate make that much of a difference?

Likely Voters vs. Registered Voters makes the difference.

[Eraserhead]

Time for Kohl to retire.

[Smash255]

This has me more worried about PPP's reliability than enthusiastic about the 2012 race. What is the explanation for Feingold's and Johnson's approvals being this way so soon after an election where Johnson won by 5 points? Can a changing electorate make that much of a difference?

Likely Voters vs. Registered Voters makes the difference.

Yup, keep in mind those gaps were pretty large in the RV & LV polls in Wisconsin before Election Day.  The question basically is will the Democrats that turned out in 2008 but didn't turn out in 2010, turn out in 2012?

[JohnnyLongtorso]

This has me more worried about PPP's reliability than enthusiastic about the 2012 race. What is the explanation for Feingold's and Johnson's approvals being this way so soon after an election where Johnson won by 5 points? Can a changing electorate make that much of a difference?

Likely Voters vs. Registered Voters makes the difference.

Yup, keep in mind those gaps were pretty large in the RV & LV polls in Wisconsin before Election Day.  The question basically is will the Democrats that turned out in 2008 but didn't turn out in 2010, turn out in 2012?

PPP uses some kind of weird soft-likely voter model until they switch to a "real" likely voter model around September or so. It's not a pure registered voter model.

I don't see why turnout won't be more like 2008 than 2010; turnout was about the same in 2008 and in 2004, as far as raw numbers go.

[redcommander]

Time for Kohl to retire.

Feingold is overrated. He was after all a favorite of people like Libertas.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Time for Kohl to retire.

Feingold is overrated. He was after all a favorite of people like Libertas.

     While I was no fan of Libertas, I wouldn't say that Libertas liking someone makes that person automatically bad or even overrated.

[redcommander]

Time for Kohl to retire.

Feingold is overrated. He was after all a favorite of people like Libertas.

     While I was no fan of Libertas, I wouldn't say that Libertas liking someone makes that person automatically bad or even overrated.

No I mean Liberals shouldn't think of him as a progressive hero when so many libertarians like him.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Time for Kohl to retire.

Feingold is overrated. He was after all a favorite of people like Libertas.

     While I was no fan of Libertas, I wouldn't say that Libertas liking someone makes that person automatically bad or even overrated.

No I mean Liberals shouldn't think of him as a progressive hero when so many libertarians like him.

     But they both like him for more or less the same reason; he's one of the few people in Congress seriously willing to support a non-interventionist foreign policy & a permissive social policy.

[Eraserhead]

Time for Kohl to retire.

Feingold is overrated. He was after all a favorite of people like Libertas.

     While I was no fan of Libertas, I wouldn't say that Libertas liking someone makes that person automatically bad or even overrated.

No I mean Liberals shouldn't think of him as a progressive hero when so many libertarians like him.

His voting record makes him a progressive hero. Why should I base whether I like someone based on what other people/groups think about him?

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I'd love to see it.

Time for Kohl to retire.

Feingold is overrated. He was after all a favorite of people like Libertas.

     While I was no fan of Libertas, I wouldn't say that Libertas liking someone makes that person automatically bad or even overrated.

No I mean Liberals shouldn't think of him as a progressive hero when so many libertarians like him.

Rare moment Libertas and me agreed on someone

Of you're going to rate people on a sole basis "Libertas liked him/disliked him", then something is wrong with your head, buster.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Time for Kohl to retire.

Feingold is overrated. He was after all a favorite of people like Libertas.

     While I was no fan of Libertas, I wouldn't say that Libertas liking someone makes that person automatically bad or even overrated.

No I mean Liberals shouldn't think of him as a progressive hero when so many libertarians like him.

     But they both like him for more or less the same reason; he's one of the few people in Congress seriously willing to support a non-interventionist foreign policy & a permissive social policy.

Actually, I think a large part of Feingold's appeal across the board is the fact that he was one of the more independent minded members of congress and that he truly seems to be a man of integrity whether you agree with him or not.  I think that many liberals (myself included) like him because unlike the Democratic leadership, he actually has a spine, as shown by his voting record (btw, what Alan Grayson did wasn't standing up to Republican smears, it was sinking to the tea-party's level).  Libertarians probably like him for his record on civil liberties (only Senator to vote against the Patriot Act )