US House Redistricting: West Virginia

[Vasall des Midas]

You're right about map 1; must have overlooked some tiny precincts and not checked contiguity.

The second list seems also to omit Braxton. It also carries the error from the first map, and apparently additional errors. It seems that (unless there's new errors now. Ones the app doesn't find. Which has happened in the past.) it's actually very balanced if you give Tucker to McKinley (is that his name? Good.) at +277 / +2 / -280. (As to the mathematical purism issue... you and the app are both wrong. Persons cannot be divided in redistricting, and thus a rounded-down population and a rounded-up population should both be considered ideal populations, and the third district is -279.)

[JohnnyLongtorso]

Interestingly, State Senate Majority Leader John Unger thinks they might have to split counties this time around, and also thinks that it won't violate the state constitution.

[MilesC56]

Interestingly, State Senate Majority Leader John Unger thinks they might have to split counties this time around, and also thinks that it won't violate the state constitution.

Just like Arkansas...

[JohnnyLongtorso]

Well, Arkansas' prohibition on county-splitting was based on tradition, not the state constitution.

[krazen1211]

Interestingly, State Senate Majority Leader John Unger thinks they might have to split counties this time around, and also thinks that it won't violate the state constitution.

Just like Arkansas...

In Arkansas, it is by state tradition. In West Virginia, its a state constitutional provision.

They're probably just trying to pack CD-2 hard.

[krazen1211]

Here's a map that leaves Rahall in his current district and packs Capito with some more Raese Counties.




+504/-1062/+557

Rahall adds Randolph County (59% Manchin).
Capito adds the following.

Mineral County (54% Raese)
Grant County (72% Raese)
Tucker County (55% Manchin)
Barbour County (54% Manchin)

McKinley adds the following:

Mason County (61% Manchin)
Jackson County (50% Manchin)
Wirt County (53% Manchin)
Calhoun County (52% Manchin)

The Key issue is that Mineral County is pretty big, and of course this map puts the panhandle together, and I think should help then win CD-1 back.

[MilesC56]

Interestingly, State Senate Majority Leader John Unger thinks they might have to split counties this time around, and also thinks that it won't violate the state constitution.

Just like Arkansas...

In Arkansas, it is by state tradition. In West Virginia, its a state constitutional provision.

They're probably just trying to pack CD-2 hard.

I know the distinctions. But still.

I agree. They'll likely make WV-02 the GOP votes sink to weaken McKinley.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

Looks like they may be putting Capito and McKinley together.

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

Looks like they may be putting Capito and McKinley together.

I'm not surprised. The Democrats have nothing to lose by doing so.

[MilesC56]

This is what I came up with from reading that article:



I split Harrison, Putnam and Monongalia.

They could still end up with a 2-1 Republican delegation; the panhandle district could fall to a Republican, though Oliverio would live there and he's a good campaigner.

[krazen1211]

They split Kawanha and put Putnam into CD-3. This CD-2 is pretty strong for a Republican.

http://www.legis.state.wv.us/legisdocs/2011/1x/maps/senate/Senate_Redistricting_Proposed_CongressionalMap.pdf

[Gravis Marketing]

They split Kawanha and put Putnam into CD-3. This CD-2 is pretty strong for a Republican.

http://www.legis.state.wv.us/legisdocs/2011/1x/maps/senate/Senate_Redistricting_Proposed_CongressionalMap.pdf

That's pretty awesome from a Dem point of view. It cuts Capito out of her own district and moves some of the hardcore Republican counties from WV-1 into WV-2. Also, it looks much better.

[Torie]

Here is the Kanawha split. I espy "rat" droppings here. Shocking! 

[krazen1211]

They split Kawanha and put Putnam into CD-3. This CD-2 is pretty strong for a Republican.

http://www.legis.state.wv.us/legisdocs/2011/1x/maps/senate/Senate_Redistricting_Proposed_CongressionalMap.pdf

That's pretty awesome from a Dem point of view. It cuts Capito out of her own district and moves some of the hardcore Republican counties from WV-1 into WV-2. Also, it looks much better.

WV-2 is pretty Republican there, and WV-1 will be an uphill climb.

WV-3 of course grabs a lot of suburban Charleston. Doubt its enough to endanger it though.

Interesting map either way, and probably could be done without splitting counties.

[MilesC56]

I feel like this is Arkansas all over again.

This could be a dummymander....

I feel like they're screwing themselves just to spite Capito and McKinley.

They should have kept Taylor, Harrison, Barbour and Tucker in the 1st; they all voted for Oliverio last year.  Instead, the 1st reaches down to take in Jackson, Roane, Wirt and Calhoun; all of those counties have been voting for Capito.

Sigh...I hope this isn't the final plan.

[BigSkyBob]

One can only hope that deliberately violating the State's Constitution backfires on the then governor whom signs the bill.  When state courts insist on enforcing the Constitution,  Republicans will have a governor to veto the next bill the legislature tries. That would be the dummymander to end all dummymanders.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

Putting Putnam into WV-03 is dumb.

[MilesC56]

Just so that we have a picture of the map on this thread:




Here are the 2010 Senate numbers:

Manchin/Raese

WV01- 54.5/43.4
WV-02- 50.5/47.7
WV-03- 57.1/40.9

[Verily]

One can only hope that deliberately violating the State's Constitution backfires on the then governor whom signs the bill.  When state courts insist on enforcing the Constitution,  Republicans will have a governor to veto the next bill the legislature tries. That would be the dummymander to end all dummymanders.

Meh. If the court decides this violates the constitution, then there isn't much the Republicans can do to hurt the Democrats anyway as they will be just as constrained by the constitutional language as the Democrats are. (And you are making a rather grandiose prediction that there will be a Republican governor and state legislature--dubious at best.) I think this does violate the constitution, but the WV Democrats really have nothing to lose by trying.

[MilesC56]

One can only hope that deliberately violating the State's Constitution backfires on the then governor whom signs the bill.  When state courts insist on enforcing the Constitution,  Republicans will have a governor to veto the next bill the legislature tries. That would be the dummymander to end all dummymanders.

Meh. If the court decides this violates the constitution, then there isn't much the Republicans can do to hurt the Democrats anyway as they will be just as constrained by the constitutional language as the Democrats are. (And you are making a rather grandiose prediction that there will be a Republican governor and state legislature--dubious at best.) I think this does violate the constitution, but the WV Democrats really have nothing to lose by trying.

And BSB doesn't know for a fact that the Governor will be a Republican.

'Another one of his silly conjectures.

[Sibboleth]

Maybe Harley Staggers will try a comeback? That's basically his old district they've drawn. Putnam is a surprise, but I suppose that's balanced out by adding southern Kanawha county.

[krazen1211]

Charleston legislators are opposing this effort to slash their county in two.

[krazen1211]

Just so that we have a picture of the map on this thread:




Here are the 2010 Senate numbers:

Manchin/Raese

WV01- 54.5/43.4
WV-02- 50.5/47.7
WV-03- 57.1/40.9

Kinda lame. My map gets the same result without splitting counties and while putting Capito surely in WV-02.

[timothyinMD]

Checking out this map it looks like they split Harrison county also  (a bit to the right of the number 1)

[MilesC56]

Kinda lame. My map gets the same result without splitting counties and while putting Capito surely in WV-02.

I agree; your map is better.