Senate passes repeal of DADT with 65 votes

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Not surprised by Ensign.  I'm a bit surprised Graham didn't end up voting for the actual bill after it passed cloture though.

[Iosif]

Not surprised by Ensign.  I'm a bit surprised Graham didn't end up voting for the actual bill after it passed cloture though.

Lindsey likes it in the closet.

[memphis]

Not surprised by Ensign.  I'm a bit surprised Graham didn't end up voting for the actual bill after it passed cloture though.

Lindsey likes it in the closet.

^^^^^^^^^^^
Dude's so far in the closet he lives in Narnia.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Common sense had a majour victory today.

[Keystone Phil]

Pat Toomey says he would have voted in favor, interestingly.

He said this during the campaign.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Not surprised by Ensign.  I'm a bit surprised Graham didn't end up voting for the actual bill after it passed cloture though.

Lindsey likes it in the closet.

^^^^^^^^^^^
Dude's so far in the closet he lives in Narnia.

At least now that Kirk was elected he'll have company. He was pretty lonely after Larry Craig left.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Good to see this pass the though.  My confidence that this would get accomplished was correct!

Yes it was, Burr and Ensign decided to play weird games by voting against cloture and then voting in favor of the bill.  The majority of your party obviously were still bigoted piles of trash.

Probably sticking to the "not until the budget" thing for the cloture vote, and once it cleared that, they figured they could vote on the bill with a clear fiscal conscience.

Does anybody know why Hatch didn't vote?  He was one that I'd have expected to vote YEA.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Does anybody know why Hatch didn't vote?  He was one that I'd have expected to vote YEA.

Are you joking? For the rest of his term he will try to out-conservative DeMint and Coburn.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I wonder if we'll see Graham move right so he can save himself from being tea bagged in 2014? I'm a little surprised he voted against this unless he doesn't want to serve in the military anymore.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

I wonder if we'll see Graham move right so he can save himself from being tea bagged in 2014? I'm a little surprised he voted against this unless he doesn't want to serve in the military anymore.

He can't come out to himself yet, Dukie. 

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Does anybody know why Hatch didn't vote?  He was one that I'd have expected to vote YEA.

Are you joking? For the rest of his term he will try to out-conservative DeMint and Coburn.

Then he would've voted NAY.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Does anybody know why Hatch didn't vote?  He was one that I'd have expected to vote YEA.

Are you joking? For the rest of his term he will try to out-conservative DeMint and Coburn.

Then he would've voted NAY.

he was at his grandson's graduation.

[angus]

Pretty map!

Nice of you to post it the map.  I actually just learned about this vote, seconds ago, when I read this thread.  I've been mostly in the closet the last couple of days, and a few other strange places, so I haven't watched much TV except for some children's movies during prime time. 

Good to know that this is all behind us.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Does anybody know why Hatch didn't vote?  He was one that I'd have expected to vote YEA.

Are you joking? For the rest of his term he will try to out-conservative DeMint and Coburn.

Then he would've voted NAY.

he was at his grandson's graduation.

So... do we know how he would've voted?  The only quotes I see are that he's open to it.

[Devilman88]

Is anyone else shocked that Burr voted for this?? I am.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Is anyone else shocked that Burr voted for this?? I am.

Somewhat but not really considering Burr himself and his style. I actually rather expected a few surprise votes on this.

[Badger]

[Joe Biden 2020]

Here is my view of DADT

I happen to agree with this repeal. First let me say this, I'm a strong Christian, but I'm also politically-independent. I have a very weird view on this. First off, I HATE homosexuality, it goes against everything the Lord my God teaches. However, I have to agree with Hillary Clinton when she said "You don't have to be straight to shoot straight". I come at it from a defense point of view. We have lost many strategic and key people in our military because of DADT. For example, we have had several soldiers who could translate Arabic, the predominate language of the muslim terrorists, be discharged because of their sexual orientation.  I think this move actually does strengthen our defenses.  If you want to talk about our morality slipping, it flew out the window ages ago.  Plus, I don't think my God wants me to discriminate against anyone.  I am called to love people.  I love the sinner, but hate the sin.  Homosexuality is no more severe of a sin than telling a little white lie.  The consequences may be more severe, but in God's eyes, a sin is a sin is a sin and it doesn't matter whether you miss heaven by a half inch or 100,000 miles. The fact is, you still missed it.  If we banned homosexuality in the military, then to be fair, we'd have to ban everyone who has told a lie, which just about encompasses everybody.  So, that's my view on the situation.

This is not meant to offend anyone, just gives my views.

[Franzl]

Pretty backward, bigoted views you've got.

[Brittain33]

Trying to avoid the predictable (and unproductive) discussions and go for a different angle:

First off, I HATE homosexuality

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Why do you feel so strongly against homosexuality -- all caps "HATE" -- and then say all sin is the same? Do you feel the same depth of feeling about little white lies?

[Smash255]

Here is my view of DADT

I happen to agree with this repeal. First let me say this, I'm a strong Christian, but I'm also politically-independent. I have a very weird view on this. First off, I HATE homosexuality, it goes against everything the Lord my God teaches. However, I have to agree with Hillary Clinton when she said "You don't have to be straight to shoot straight". I come at it from a defense point of view. We have lost many strategic and key people in our military because of DADT. For example, we have had several soldiers who could translate Arabic, the predominate language of the muslim terrorists, be discharged because of their sexual orientation.  I think this move actually does strengthen our defenses.  If you want to talk about our morality slipping, it flew out the window ages ago.  Plus, I don't think my God wants me to discriminate against anyone.  I am called to love people.  I love the sinner, but hate the sin.  Homosexuality is no more severe of a sin than telling a little white lie.  The consequences may be more severe, but in God's eyes, a sin is a sin is a sin and it doesn't matter whether you miss heaven by a half inch or 100,000 miles. The fact is, you still missed it.  If we banned homosexuality in the military, then to be fair, we'd have to ban everyone who has told a lie, which just about encompasses everybody.  So, that's my view on the situation.

This is not meant to offend anyone, just gives my views.

Wow you have a lot of hate, venom and bigotry inside of you.

[Brittain33]

Wow you have a lot of hate, venom and bigotry inside of you.

I disagree. No more than the average person, for certain, and whatever else is going that doesn't make it to the keyboard, he displays less than the average. There's other stuff going on here (no, not saying he's gay himself) which is less interesting.

[Storebought]

Pretty backward, bigoted views you've got.

Considering the opinions of the average Oklahoman, his views are liberal, deeply-felt, and well-reasoned.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Percicution people for their religous beliefs is bad.

[Thomas D]

Nice of you to post it the map.  I actually just learned about this vote, seconds ago, when I read this thread.  I've been mostly in the closet the last couple of days, and a few other strange places, so I haven't watched much TV except for some children's movies during prime time. 

Good to know that this is all behind us.

Nice choice of words there. Tee hee