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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: December 20, 2010, 11:42:34 PM »

Kind of. But here's the thing; the man who's teachings Christians are supposed to follow took a fairly strong line on hypocrisy. That's one reason why Okie's moralising is so utterly obnoxious.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2010, 10:36:33 AM »

Now you're all just feeding his persecution complex. 'Liberals' laying into him for HATING homosexuality probably makes him feel warm and fuzzy inside. Don't call him a bigot, call him a hypocrite. Hey Reverend, have you spotted any new get-rich-quick schemes? I'm sure that the Lord approves! Considered scamming any vulnerable people to make money? It's what Jesus would have wanted! And how goes the preying on vulnerable women for sexual thrills? And if the persona is not entirely real, then how goes making this sort of thing up for attention on the internet? It's nearly Christmas, should you not be in Church?
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2010, 01:45:03 PM »

You do have to be an extremist to place an emphasis on that, though. Not only because hardly any Christians actually follow those laws* (and, indeed, most Churches would argue that Christians do not have to), but also because that particular proscription is not noticeably more severe than that for other sexual transgressions (so to speak).

*That is, the mass of them in that particular part of the OT.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2010, 03:15:33 PM »

You do have to be an extremist to place an emphasis on that, though. Not only because hardly any Christians actually follow those laws* (and, indeed, most Churches would argue that Christians do not have to), but also because that particular proscription is not noticeably more severe than that for other sexual transgressions (so to speak).

*That is, the mass of them in that particular part of the OT.

actually, you are mischaracterizing those sections (Lev ch 18 & Lev ch 20) because you’re acting as if those sections include laws that were only put into place at the time of Moses.  But if you read the context, those chapters are describing the PREVIOUS actions of pagan nations and those nations were being thrown out of the land because the nations of their PAST HISTORY  of practicing these things.

So, God explicitly stated the acts described within Lev ch 18 & ch 20 were already judged PRIOR to the Law of Moses.  And none of those actions mentioned within that contextual pagan wrapper are allowed in the New Testament.  So, you are wrong in characterizing “that particular part of the OT” as being first instituted under the Law of Moses, and you are wrong to say “hardly any Christians actually follow those laws” because nowhere in the New Testament are the list of these sexual acts (incest, bestiality, homosexuality) allowed.


Learn to read for Christ's sake. Whether it is right that most Christians do not closely follow the mass of laws in the OT (or who came up with them first or whatever) is not the issue, the fact that they clearly don't is.

Wait, why did I take you off ignore? Ah, yes. I remember now. But you never contribute anything meaningful outside election time, so...

Zap.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2010, 03:44:01 PM »

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