What state should have to take DC's residential areas?

[A18]

What's left of DC was originally ceded by Maryland, so they should be forced to take it back.

[Alcon]

You're getting ahead of yourself.

Why would this happen, anyway?

[A18]

Because DC shouldn't have residents. It's not a state.

[Alcon]

Neither is American Samoa. Do you suggest that everyone there should swim to Hawaii or something?

[A18]

No, they should be given Independence.

[Alcon]

Why do you want to get rid of all non-state American land?

[A18]

I don't want to make them states, and I don't want to have people living under American rule who can't vote.

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I don't want to make them states, and I don't want to have people living under American rule who can't vote.

Like Florida blacks?

[A18]

Blacks convicted of felonies? That I'm okay with.

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Blacks convicted of felonies? That I'm okay with.

Including ones convicted of felonies in 2006? The 2000 FL scrub list had serious problems.

[A18]

What idiot voted Virginia?

[jimrtex]

Why would this happen, anyway?

The Founding Fathers were wary of a state having jurisdiction over the federal government, its offices, forts and other buildings.  You don't want a state controlling zoning and property taxes on military bases, national parks, the Capitol, White House, Pentagon, etc.  This is still reasonable today.

The problem is when this jurisdiction extends outside the property of the federal government, into surrounding residential and commercial areas on private property.  It converts the Congress into at best a state legislature, at worst a city council or school board for the area.

The area of Virginia that contains the Pentagon was once part of the District of Columbia, and was returned in 1846.  It works fine.  The same would happen if the part of the District north of the Potomac was returned to Maryland.

[Alcon]

I strongly get the feeling that the only interest any of you have in getting rid of DC is getting rid of two Democratic electoral votes.

[jimrtex]

I strongly get the feeling that the only interest any of you have in getting rid of DC is getting rid of two Democratic electoral votes.

What is the rational basis for you feelings?

[Sam Spade]

I personally would have no problem with DC combining with Maryland, as long as it's only Prince George's County and Montgomery County, so we can get some sane representation around these parts.

Honestly, since DC always complains about having no representation, it's frankly the best solution for them to vote for Senators and Representatives in Maryland.  DC would probably get a congressional district and would get to vote crap like Mikulski and Sarbanes back as much as they want.

It would also return the EV situation to the much saner 535 EV, where ties would be pretty much impossible without third parties.  DC should have never gotten 3 EV to begin with anyway.

[Alcon]

I strongly get the feeling that the only interest any of you have in getting rid of DC is getting rid of two Democratic electoral votes.

What is the rational basis for you feelings?

Because this topic is about DC, not DC and the independence of Puerto Rico and American Samoa.

Now, is what I'm saying untrue? Is this honestly not politically motivated at all?

[jimrtex]

I strongly get the feeling that the only interest any of you have in getting rid of DC is getting rid of two Democratic electoral votes.

What is the rational basis for your feelings?

Because this topic is about DC, not DC and the independence of Puerto Rico and American Samoa.

Now, is what I'm saying untrue? Is this honestly not politically motivated at all?

Who said anything about Puerto Rico and American Samoa?

[Alcon]

I strongly get the feeling that the only interest any of you have in getting rid of DC is getting rid of two Democratic electoral votes.

What is the rational basis for your feelings?

Because this topic is about DC, not DC and the independence of Puerto Rico and American Samoa.

Now, is what I'm saying untrue? Is this honestly not politically motivated at all?

Who said anything about Puerto Rico and American Samoa?

Err, I meant is NOT. Sorry.

[A18]

I'm also for letting Puerto Rico into the Union, if they want in.

[Alcon]

I'm also for letting Puerto Rico into the Union, if they want in.

Why not D.C.?

[A18]

While we're at it, why not admit Loudoun County into the Union?

Several reasons were already posted for not having the capital in any State.

[Nym90]

I don't want to make them states, and I don't want to have people living under American rule who can't vote.

Unless they don't own 1/5 acre of land. :-)

[A18]

Well, you also have to be 18, but you know what I mean.

[MODU]

I'm also for letting Puerto Rico into the Union, if they want in.

Why not D.C.?

I've written many posts regarding why DC should never be granted representative rights nor statehood.  Feel free to research my posts on this topic.  DC can never support itself economically, which is one of the biggest reasons as to why they could never be a state (minus the fact that a State cannot house the Federal government).  So, if DC will always be reliable on funding by the federal government, and the federal government indicates where the funds are to be used, nothing is gained by allowing DC to become a state.  They are fortunate to have a governing council as it is, and that's just because Congress needed to free up some man hours to focus on national issues.

[Hitchabrut]

Definitely MD. #1 - We don't need to lose Virginia, #2 - A map showing a little enclave of Virginia across the Potomac would look stupid