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« on: December 20, 2010, 03:54:57 pm »
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It can't remain in the Democratic column forever.
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2010, 04:08:04 pm »
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Is it going to become legal to perform lobotomies on Mexicans again?
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2010, 04:46:39 pm »
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Is it going to become legal to perform lobotomies on Mexicans again?

In 2008 it would have been D as long as you didn't restrict voting to upper class white males.
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2010, 06:19:10 pm »
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Not foerever, but california will remain democrat for the next 40 or 50 years, minimum.
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2010, 07:50:45 pm »
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Once the state loses at least 10 million people or so, another 100 years I don't know.
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2010, 09:01:21 pm »
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Its starting to resemble voting patterns more similiar to Massachusetts and becoming even more left wing then it had been even 10 years ago. These midterms are proof of that. Also Obama almost capturing Orange County and taking the Inland Empire does not spell good news for GOP prospects in the state. It has not voted republican at the presidential level since 1988 (even that was close 51-47%) It has not had a conservative governor since Pete Wilson left in the late 90s. Arnold Swartzenegger is a "rino" and to the left on almost all social issues from abortion to support of gay marriage. If republicans are to win here they will have to nominate candidates in the mold of Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins of Maine. With the exception of the Attorney Generals race all statewide democratic candidates won by a 10 pt or higher margin in a midterm election where turnout was not as high as it was in 2008. If I were a republican I would kiss California goodbye for this generation anyway.
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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2010, 12:40:35 am »
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It was briefly a swing state in 2004, ftr.
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2010, 11:19:47 pm »
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When Wyoming and Vermont become swing states. In other words, never.
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2010, 11:30:13 pm »
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I can't see a Republican winning California, barring a massive landslide. However, I don't rule out the possibility of a non-Democrat winning it at some point.
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2010, 11:49:05 pm »
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     Not for another 20-30 years & quite likely longer than that.
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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2010, 12:48:19 am »
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What else would one expect from this left coast, pot smoking, marine office banning, collection of pinko loonies?
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2010, 05:17:13 am »
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What else would one expect from this left coast, pot smoking, marine office banning, collection of pinko loonies?

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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2010, 05:35:16 am »
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It can't remain in the Democratic column forever.

LOL. If you say so... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2010, 09:25:32 am »
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I'm wondering whatever happened to that insurgent Western Conservatism that sprang up between the '60's and the '80's, and how that dies out in places like California.
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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2010, 01:23:15 pm »
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I'm wondering whatever happened to that insurgent Western Conservatism that sprang up between the '60's and the '80's, and how that dies out in places like California.

Take a look at the changes in California's demographics in the past 50 years. They're the same changes the whole country is likely to experience in the next 50.
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« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2010, 05:54:02 pm »
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I'm wondering whatever happened to that insurgent Western Conservatism that sprang up between the '60's and the '80's, and how that dies out in places like California.

Take a look at the changes in California's demographics in the past 50 years. They're the same changes the whole country is likely to experience in the next 50.

You mean immigration?
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« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2010, 06:14:12 pm »
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What else would one expect from this left coast, pot smoking, marine office banning, collection of pinko loonies?

We expect to be adding gay marriage loving  to this collection of labels when the 9th circuit upholds Judge Walkers decision! LOL love the labels I think Ill go light up another !
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« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2010, 06:55:43 pm »
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I'm wondering whatever happened to that insurgent Western Conservatism that sprang up between the '60's and the '80's, and how that dies out in places like California.

Take a look at the changes in California's demographics in the past 50 years. They're the same changes the whole country is likely to experience in the next 50.

You mean immigration?

Demographics aren't all of it though. It is heavily Democratic areas like the Bay Area where white progressives put the Democrats over the top. West LA is something like 70% White, and yet they have given the state and congress such illustrious people as Waxman, Brownley, the Lowenthals, and Harman. I think it has to do with the National GOP basically giving up on the state and allowing the Democrats to consolidate strength. 
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« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2010, 08:40:46 pm »
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What else would one expect from this left coast, pot smoking, marine office banning, collection of pinko loonies?

We expect to be adding gay marriage loving   to this collection of labels when the 9th circuit upholds Judge Walkers decision! LOL love the labels I think Ill go light up another !

Of that I have no doubt.  Then it can truly be said

California, the state where votes don't count.

You can add that to your labels as well.
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« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2010, 10:31:48 pm »
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What else would one expect from this left coast, pot smoking, marine office banning, collection of pinko loonies?

We expect to be adding gay marriage loving   to this collection of labels when the 9th circuit upholds Judge Walkers decision! LOL love the labels I think Ill go light up another !

Of that I have no doubt.  Then it can truly be said

California, the state where votes don't count.

You can add that to your labels as well.
Can I vote on your rights?
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« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2010, 10:54:35 pm »
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What else would one expect from this left coast, pot smoking, marine office banning, collection of pinko loonies?

We expect to be adding gay marriage loving   to this collection of labels when the 9th circuit upholds Judge Walkers decision! LOL love the labels I think Ill go light up another !

Of that I have no doubt.  Then it can truly be said

California, the state where votes don't count.

You can add that to your labels as well.
Can I vote on your rights?

Can I take it upon myself to decide the people are wrong?
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« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2010, 11:00:15 pm »
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I'm not going to turn this into a gay marriage discussion, but remember that most Americans approved of segregation and were opposed to interracial marriages as well. Marriage is a right, not a privilege for heterosexuals.

IMO, California will become a swing state when the Republican Party rejects the teabaggers and Religious Right zealots in its party, so never. When the Republican Party tells Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck that they do not represent the entire face of the Republican Party and when they embrace (and not purge) moderates from their party, then I could foresee a moderate Republican coming close to carrying California, but even then it would be a stretch. Too many minorities in California who vote Democratic, combined with the affluent white progressives, makes it a tough state for the Republicans now or ever.
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« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2010, 11:05:29 pm »
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What else would one expect from this left coast, pot smoking, marine office banning, collection of pinko loonies?

We expect to be adding gay marriage loving   to this collection of labels when the 9th circuit upholds Judge Walkers decision! LOL love the labels I think Ill go light up another !

Of that I have no doubt.  Then it can truly be said

California, the state where votes don't count.

You can add that to your labels as well.
Can I vote on your rights?

Can I take it upon myself to decide the people are wrong?

Of course you can.  That's what political debate is, and anyways, the people are nearly always wrong.
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« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2010, 11:46:46 pm »
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I'm not going to turn this into a gay marriage discussion, but remember that most Americans approved of segregation and were opposed to interracial marriages as well. Marriage is a right, not a privilege for heterosexuals.


Please, don't insult our intelligence by comparing gay marriage to race equality.  They are simply not related. 
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« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2010, 01:58:53 am »
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I'm not going to turn this into a gay marriage discussion, but remember that most Americans approved of segregation and were opposed to interracial marriages as well. Marriage is a right, not a privilege for heterosexuals.


Please, don't insult our intelligence by comparing gay marriage to race equality.  They are simply not related. 

Both are civil rights issues.
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