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« Reply #350 on: September 13, 2011, 04:05:32 PM »

Oh, this was today?
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« Reply #351 on: September 13, 2011, 04:06:29 PM »

These maps are just so amateur...

And yes, Meeker, it was today! I'm surprised you haven't been following. Looks like Heck might get shafted, with Smith taking Olympia so as to leave South King County for a "majority-minority" district.
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« Reply #352 on: September 13, 2011, 04:09:07 PM »

These maps are just so amateur...

And yes, Meeker, it was today! I'm surprised you haven't been following. Looks like Heck might get shafted, with Smith taking Olympia so as to leave South King County for a "majority-minority" district.

I think you may have misunderstood the tone of my post. Smiley
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« Reply #353 on: September 13, 2011, 04:10:43 PM »

These maps are just so amateur...

And yes, Meeker, it was today! I'm surprised you haven't been following. Looks like Heck might get shafted, with Smith taking Olympia so as to leave South King County for a "majority-minority" district.

I think you may have misunderstood the tone of my post. Smiley

Then share your opinions! Tongue
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« Reply #354 on: September 13, 2011, 04:13:11 PM »

I tried clicking on Ceis's presentation, but it gave me Foster's instead.  Sad
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« Reply #355 on: September 13, 2011, 04:17:48 PM »


you mean that Dennis isn't allowed in Columbus? He's just as likely to run in Columbus than Seattle.
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« Reply #356 on: September 13, 2011, 04:25:43 PM »

@#$!@#$@!

Every last one of them includes a trans-cascade I-90 district. I wonder what Reichert bribed them with to get this result. Though I will say that Herrera-Beutler is getting a bit shafted (although she loses Olympia from all of the plans as well which means that she should be safe save for wave elections)

I think almost the maps are pointing to a 6-4 D advantage, which instead really should be 6-3-1 (D, R, tossup).

So here comes the question:
Which of these horrible monstrosities would you choose if a gun was pointed at your head?
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« Reply #357 on: September 13, 2011, 04:37:21 PM »

@#$!@#$@!

Every last one of them includes a trans-cascade I-90 district. I wonder what Reichert bribed them with to get this result. Though I will say that Herrera-Beutler is getting a bit shafted (although she loses Olympia from all of the plans as well which means that she should be safe save for wave elections)

I think almost the maps are pointing to a 6-4 D advantage, which instead really should be 6-3-1 (D, R, tossup).

So here comes the question:
Which of these horrible monstrosities would you choose if a gun was pointed at your head?

Now that I found access to it, probably Ceis's plan.
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« Reply #358 on: September 13, 2011, 04:39:40 PM »

I also find Ceis' plan least offensive. Obviously I don't like the 8th district going into Eastern Washington, but I would be in the 1st district in his map anyway. Wink
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« Reply #359 on: September 13, 2011, 05:21:13 PM »

And just a random note: I strongly dislike Gorton's plan to re-number the districts. A lot of these districts have encompassed their territory for their entire existence, and some up to a century or so... Throwing that out the window "just because" is ridiculous.
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« Reply #360 on: September 13, 2011, 05:23:08 PM »

I just threw up... okay not literally, but these are disgusting. I could and have drawn maps considerably better than those. Now time to look at them in more detail.
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« Reply #361 on: September 13, 2011, 06:05:06 PM »

I dislike Hoff's the most. Followed by Gorton's followed by Ceis's, followed by Foster's. I think Foster's is a bit better than Ceis's.

Now saying that..... I hate them all.

I even sent a long message to Gorton pointing out every bit of gerrymandering.... but really used it to attack all the maps. I am extremely dissapointed and I'd like for some steps to be taken so that in the next redistricting commission is conducted by a non-partisan group that takes no account into where incumbents live and that there primary concern is keeping communities of interest together, followed by district competitiveness.
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« Reply #362 on: September 13, 2011, 06:15:31 PM »

I pitty Slate Gordon.  That senior center he's in must be really boring, or else he wouldn't go to all that trouble just to f**k up our congressional districts.


Edit:  No direspect to old people.  Wink
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« Reply #363 on: September 13, 2011, 08:33:43 PM »
« Edited: September 13, 2011, 08:43:16 PM by CultureKing »

Did Huff draw a 6-4 Republican map?! That is ballsy, especially with his bizarre 1st district which somehow avoids touching the Puget Sound.

Edit: Whoops that is definitely a 5-5 map, not a 6-4 map. My bad. Although it's still hideous.
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« Reply #364 on: September 13, 2011, 08:46:07 PM »

The final map will look nothing like any of these drafts. I wouldn't give them too much thought.
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« Reply #365 on: September 13, 2011, 08:51:55 PM »

The final map will look nothing like any of these drafts. I wouldn't give them too much thought.

How can you be so sure?
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« Reply #366 on: September 13, 2011, 08:53:19 PM »

The final map will look nothing like any of these drafts. I wouldn't give them too much thought.

How can you be so sure?

The 1991 drafts looked nothing like the final map.
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« Reply #367 on: September 13, 2011, 09:06:54 PM »

LD maps sux
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« Reply #368 on: September 13, 2011, 09:15:26 PM »


Well, look who decided to show up.
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« Reply #369 on: September 13, 2011, 09:18:14 PM »


Huff's map is particularly bad in this department. Take a look at his drawings of the 2nd and 28th.
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« Reply #370 on: September 13, 2011, 11:22:37 PM »

So a 7-3 map is pretty much not happening right? It's 6-4 at best at this point it seems.
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« Reply #371 on: September 13, 2011, 11:29:02 PM »


Yeah, where have you been? 
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« Reply #372 on: September 13, 2011, 11:38:38 PM »

So a 7-3 map is pretty much not happening right? It's 6-4 at best at this point it seems.

7-3 was very doable. Considering the Republicans came in with 5-5 maps, I think the Democrats should have come in with 7-3 maps so we could compromise with a 6-4 map.
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« Reply #373 on: September 14, 2011, 02:20:31 AM »

"The likelihood of a transcascade district that doesn't include the Columbia Gorge is flat zero. It's just not going to happen."

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« Reply #374 on: September 14, 2011, 02:37:48 AM »

That was someone else's comment, but nevertheless congratulations are on (perhaps) winning this argument Tongue

Interestingly enough, when we first argued about a possible 10th and the East-West crossing on SSC in 2008, you were also talking about how McCain would never win the Republican nomination. So... hah, we're even! Wink

Luckily it looks like many of the maps cut Bellevue and much (if not all) of the Eastside out of these trans-Cascade districts (with one exception---the Huff map, which almost everyone agrees is the worst map). I wouldn't mind that too much.
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