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Vasall des Midas
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Re: US House Redistricting: Florida
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Reply #225 on:
February 03, 2012, 02:05:35 pm »
52% of Collier's population is in Mario's district under the House plan (50% under the Senate plan).
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JohnnyLongtorso
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Re: US House Redistricting: Florida
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Reply #226 on:
February 11, 2012, 11:11:18 am »
DKE has a nice breakdown of the new districts (they also did one for California):
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/10/1063407/-Daily-Kos-Elections-Florida-cheat-sheet
I don't understand why Mica is running in FL-07, when FL-06 is mostly from his old district and it's more Republican.
Also, Crist won three of the districts in 2010, FL-13 (Bill Young), FL-21 (Ted Deutch), and FL-23 (Debbie Wasserman Schultz). Edit: four, actually, he won FL-14 (Kathy Castor) by a hair.
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Vasall des Midas
Lewis Trondheim
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Re: US House Redistricting: Florida
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February 11, 2012, 11:16:52 am »
It is where he's actually from, of course. But yeah, his decision came as quite a surprise to everybody, apparently.
Also, the new 7th is basically a smaller version of Mica's 90s district; almost all of it was in it.
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nclib
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Re: US House Redistricting: Florida
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Reply #228 on:
February 11, 2012, 06:57:38 pm »
Quote from: JohnnyLongtorso on February 11, 2012, 11:11:18 am
DKE has a nice breakdown of the new districts (they also did one for California):
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/10/1063407/-Daily-Kos-Elections-Florida-cheat-sheet
I don't understand why Mica is running in FL-07, when FL-06 is mostly from his old district and it's more Republican.
Also, Crist won three of the districts in 2010, FL-13 (Bill Young), FL-21 (Ted Deutch), and FL-23 (Debbie Wasserman Schultz). Edit: four, actually, he won FL-14 (Kathy Castor) by a hair.
Comparing Obama/McCain results for the old and new districts:
Old: 10 Obama - 15 McCain
New: 10 Obama - 17 McCain
All six Dem-held CDs (Brown, Castor, Wilson, Deutch, DWS, Hastings) all heavily Obama before and after.
Bill Young's CD stays at 51-47 Obama.
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen's CD goes from 51-49 Obama to 51-49 McCain.
Daniel Webster's CD (Alan Grayson's old CD) is currently 53-47 Obama, and will be split into a (likely) Grayson CD at 60-39 Obama and a Webster CD at 52-47 McCain.
Allen West's old CD is 52-48 Obama and Tom Rooney's is 52-47 McCain. West will be running in Rooney's old CD at 51-48 Obama. The successor to Allen West's old CD is 57-43 Obama.
BTW, can someone explain the headings in the Fla. (and Calif.) expanded spreadsheet?
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krazen1211
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Re: US House Redistricting: Florida
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Reply #229 on:
April 27, 2012, 03:27:44 pm »
Revised Florida Senate map upheld.
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2012/04/gaetz-tells-senate-elections-will-be-held-on-time.html
The GOP of course will continue to retain large majorities in the chamber.
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MilesC56
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Re: US House Redistricting: Florida
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April 27, 2012, 05:30:21 pm »
Quote from: krazen1211 on April 27, 2012, 03:27:44 pm
The GOP of course will continue to retain large majorities in the chamber.
And in other news, water is still wet.
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krazen1211
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Re: US House Redistricting: Florida
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Reply #231 on:
April 30, 2012, 05:22:21 pm »
Florida Congressional map precleared.
http://atr.rollcall.com/justice-department-pre-clears-florida-congressional-map/
And supported by a judge.
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/judge-rejects-dems-attempt-put-congressional-map-hold-during-trial
He said that absent a determination that the map is unconstitutional "I do not have the authority to replace it with another map while the case is pending." Absent that, he said the result would be that the 2002 map would remain in effect -- a map, he said "was admittedly drawn to favor the Republican Party and incumbents."
That would be very funny indeed if the judge used the 2002 map with 2 at large districts.
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Re: US House Redistricting: Florida
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May 01, 2012, 12:15:46 am »
Quote from: krazen1211 on April 30, 2012, 05:22:21 pm
Florida Congressional map precleared.
http://atr.rollcall.com/justice-department-pre-clears-florida-congressional-map/
And supported by a judge.
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/judge-rejects-dems-attempt-put-congressional-map-hold-during-trial
He said that absent a determination that the map is unconstitutional "I do not have the authority to replace it with another map while the case is pending." Absent that, he said the result would be that the 2002 map would remain in effect -- a map, he said "was admittedly drawn to favor the Republican Party and incumbents."
That would be very funny indeed if the judge used the 2002 map with 2 at large districts.
I think "supported by a judge" is a fairly strong overstatement since he clearly believes the map is in violation of the new redistricting requirements. I think the Dems only lost this one on a technicality. Although it is certainly not great for the Dems this year, we'll have to wait and see how things go with the actual arguments over the map's constitutionality.
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jimrtex
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Re: US House Redistricting: Florida
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May 01, 2012, 04:49:12 pm »
Quote from: Padfoot on May 01, 2012, 12:15:46 am
Quote from: krazen1211 on April 30, 2012, 05:22:21 pm
Florida Congressional map precleared.
http://atr.rollcall.com/justice-department-pre-clears-florida-congressional-map/
And supported by a judge.
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/judge-rejects-dems-attempt-put-congressional-map-hold-during-trial
He said that absent a determination that the map is unconstitutional "I do not have the authority to replace it with another map while the case is pending." Absent that, he said the result would be that the 2002 map would remain in effect -- a map, he said "was admittedly drawn to favor the Republican Party and incumbents."
I think "supported by a judge" is a fairly strong overstatement since he clearly believes the map is in violation of the new redistricting requirements. I think the Dems only lost this one on a technicality. Although it is certainly not great for the Dems this year, we'll have to wait and see how things go with the actual arguments over the map's constitutionality.
It is not clear at all from his opinion that he believes the map is in violation of the new redistricting requirements.
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krazen1211
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April 07, 2013, 12:47:36 pm »
http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/story/debbie-wasserman-schultz-nan-rich-rod-smith-tried-gerrymander-blamed-gop-doing-same
Florida Democrats were scheming to concoct some vicious gerrymanders.
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brittain33
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Re: US House Redistricting: Florida
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April 07, 2013, 01:48:21 pm »
Quote from: krazen1211 on April 07, 2013, 12:47:36 pm
http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/story/debbie-wasserman-schultz-nan-rich-rod-smith-tried-gerrymander-blamed-gop-doing-same
Florida Democrats were scheming to concoct some vicious gerrymanders.
Reminds me of the horrendous Dem counterproposal to the Republican gerrymander of Pa.
http://www.politicspa.com/dems-release-their-own-congressional-map/30151/
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krazen1211
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Re: US House Redistricting: Florida
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April 07, 2013, 02:45:51 pm »
I'll see if I can at least get the 25th to 60% without the Monroe change. Also, it's not possible to get the 3rd to 40% with all of Alachua, Palatka, a small piece or Clay and the Duval piece (still in the 36-37% neighborhood). It can't even be done by splitting Alachua, just taking 120K of the highest percentage AA precincts. Furthermore adding more Duval than in already included in the version from this afternoon drops Democratic Performance. The best I can do with the onstruction
depicted in the attached is 52.2% Dem Performance and 38.4% Total Black/37.8% non-Hispanic Black %.
No wonder Corrine Brown was upset.
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krazen1211
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Re: US House Redistricting: Florida
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May 02, 2013, 09:57:12 am »
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/emails-show-group-sought-to-protect-wasserman-schultz-seat-in-redistricting/2118646
A liberal group involved in a lawsuit to make Florida's congressional districts less partisan engaged in its own partisan efforts by drawing Democratic-heavy Hispanic seats or trying to "scoop" Jewish voters into a district for U.S. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the Democratic National Committee chair, emails show.
The Fair Districts map-maker, Wieneke, noted in the same email that the constitution bans favoring or disfavoring incumbents or parties.
"OK, generally we want a map that looks like it is doing this, but Democrats currently have 6 of 25 seats and all 6 of those seats are minority majority or minority coalition seats," he wrote Oct. 16, 2011. "Underlying goal is to increase the number of safe Democratic seats and the number of competitive seats."
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MilesC56
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Re: US House Redistricting: Florida
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May 02, 2013, 10:37:54 am »
'Those damn leftists. Oh well, at least conservatives
never
try to maximize their seats or pack voters.
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krazen1211
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Re: US House Redistricting: Florida
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Quote from: MilesC56 on May 02, 2013, 10:37:54 am
'Those damn leftists. Oh well, at least conservatives
never
try to maximize their seats or pack voters.
Who said that?
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MilesC56
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Re: US House Redistricting: Florida
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Quote from: krazen1211 on May 02, 2013, 11:20:45 am
Quote from: MilesC56 on May 02, 2013, 10:37:54 am
'Those damn leftists. Oh well, at least conservatives
never
try to maximize their seats or pack voters.
Who said that?
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