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JohnnyLongtorso
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« on: December 26, 2010, 09:07:12 AM »

MO-01 as drawn in 2000 is just below 50% black, so I don't think it's protected by VRA.
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JohnnyLongtorso
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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2010, 10:01:11 AM »

Well, I'm getting tired of people clutching their pearls about "it must be majority-black!!!!".
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JohnnyLongtorso
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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2010, 04:38:47 PM »
« Edited: December 26, 2010, 04:44:54 PM by JohnnyLongtorso »

I doubt the Republicans would put Carnahan's portion of St. Louis County into the former MO-09; it would be safer for them to put it into MO-08, since the district is more Republican and Emerson is extremely well-liked for whatever reason.

Here's what I came up with:

State:



St. Louis area:



- MO-01 is 49% black, takes in all of St. Louis now.
- MO-02 takes in some parts of St. Louis County from MO-01 and MO-03, and adds a few of the heavily-Republican counties to the west to compensate.
- MO-03 is parts of the former MO-09, MO-08, and MO-03. Luetkemeyer would go here.
- MO-04 adds Columbia and some counties to the northeast and southeast; probably makes it somewhat more Democratic, but the Democrats aren't getting that district back.
- MO-05 is all of Jackson County and a bit of the suburbs north of Kansas City.
- MO-06 stretches across the north third of the state now. MO-07
- MO-07 is pretty much the same.
- MO-08 takes in the St. Louis County part of MO-03, but should remain pretty Republican.

At a guess, I'd say MO-01 is about 75-25 Dem, MO-05 about 60-40 Dem, and the remaining districts about 60-40 Republican.

Edit: Did a rough calculation of MO-04, it would be 57-43 McCain.
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JohnnyLongtorso
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2011, 09:26:36 AM »

Can't Nixon just veto any map that eliminates a Democratic seat?

The Republicans are 3 votes shy of a veto-proof majority in the House, and have one in the Senate. All they need to do is peel off a few Democrats, which they're expected to do by placating the African-Americans through keeping Cleaver safe and maintaining the black population in Clay's district.
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JohnnyLongtorso
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2011, 10:15:36 PM »

Yeah, you'd have to split up Kansas City proper; the non-KC part of Jackson County basically votes in line with the statewide totals (according to their crappy elections website, it went 50-49 McCain and 54-41 Blunt; yes, apparently they report their results separately from KC's results).

Either way, it won't happen; the best case scenario for the Dems is a 5-2 map with one swing district.

I took another stab at a 6-2 map:




I think (I did this a week or two ago, never bothered to post it) I calculated MO-03 and MO-08 as being over 60% McCain without the parts of St. Louis and Jefferson, so putting those in there shouldn't affect the districts too much. Either way, all of the districts except for MO-01 and MO-05 should be at least mid-50s McCain districts.
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JohnnyLongtorso
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2011, 07:49:54 PM »

Well, if the Republicans can get two Democrats in the House to vote for it, they can override his veto...
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JohnnyLongtorso
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2011, 09:49:26 AM »

Looking closer at the map, it looks like they left nearly all of the existing part of Jackson County in and added the little sliver from MO-04. I don't think this will change the district's partisan lean all that much. My guess is it's still about 60-61% Obama.
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JohnnyLongtorso
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2011, 01:06:08 PM »

There's apparently a split between the House and the Senate over the maps. These are the two proposals:



Yes, they're arguing over what would seem to be incredibly minor differences.
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JohnnyLongtorso
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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2011, 07:37:01 AM »

I drew a nonpartisan/court map of Missouri:



It would still be 5-2-1, and even then, the one swing district (green) would have been at best around 50/50 in 2008.
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JohnnyLongtorso
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2011, 02:01:34 PM »

Check out this post on SSP:

http://swingstateproject.com/showComment.do?commentId=257428

Western St. Louis County is pretty Republican.
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JohnnyLongtorso
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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2011, 03:33:47 PM »


Do you know if the bit about Cleaver's district is true? There must be a reason that they're excluding large sections of Jackson County and adding rural counties instead.

The only source I keep hearing from is that notpjorourke guy with his super-leet insider information, but I can believe that it was drawn to protect Cleaver from a primary challenge. I do think his "Cleaver would lose a general election in a Jackson County district" thing is BS, though.
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JohnnyLongtorso
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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2011, 11:57:32 AM »
« Edited: April 28, 2011, 11:59:15 AM by JohnnyLongtorso »

Ze map:




MO-02 wouldn't be out of reach for a Democrat, I don't think (though it almost certainly voted McCain), but Carnahan is not the man to win that seat.
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JohnnyLongtorso
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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2011, 11:15:01 AM »

VETO
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JohnnyLongtorso
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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2011, 11:46:32 AM »

Yeah, the article seems to imply that they either override the veto or it goes to the courts.
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JohnnyLongtorso
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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2011, 07:48:48 PM »

The scuttlebutt is (at least from one guy and his super-leet insider sources) that Jo Ann Emerson didn't want her district to take in too much territory in the St. Louis media market.
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