I have lost all respect I had for Tucker Carlson and Fox News

[Joe Biden 2020]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5967015

This is a sports story, but it is also an attack on the President and partly a criminal justice matter, so I put it here.

What Michael Vick did was horrible, but should he really die for it???  People deserve a second chance and this guy has paid dearly and has shown he is a changed man.

I used to respect Mr. Carlson, but this just made me lose all respect for him.

[Mr. Taft Republican]

I don't know Mr. Carlson, but I completely agree with him, or at least the generality that Vick should have suffered more and that he is overpaid. He was the cause of animal suffering and death, and considering that humans are animals, and dogs are man's best friend, he should have gotten a hell of a lot more punishment.

[fezzyfestoon]

The entire clip is unhinged and disturbing, as is the concept.  Moreso is the ignorance that has led to the public demonization of Vick.  The fact that he was a public figure was his doing, he wanted the fame and the money, but that was taken advantage of to make the point that dogfighting won't be tolerated.  The sentencing he got was massive compared to the usual slap on the wrist for his offenses.  He was made into a public spectacle and forced into being the poster boy for his offenses.  In response, he has turned that attention into a way to increase awareness of the wrongs of the culture of dogfighting.  In response to his embracing his own chastising for good, he gets condemned to death by people we're all told to take seriously.  I take Vick far more seriously than any of the fools on "news" programs.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

I don't know Mr. Carlson, but I completely agree with him, or at least the generality that Vick should have suffered more and that he is overpaid. He was the cause of animal suffering and death, and considering that humans are animals, and dogs are man's best friend, he should have gotten a hell of a lot more punishment.

didn't watch the clip, but when a salary is determined by the highest bidder (as it should be), who are you to say it is too much?  the value of something is ALWAYS determined by what someone is willing, wisely or unwisely, to pay for it.

[opebo]

...when a salary is determined by the highest bidder (as it should be), who are you to say it is too much?  the value of something is ALWAYS determined by what someone is willing, wisely or unwisely, to pay for it.

Obviously false.  'To pay' for something is to excersize a political power - people cannot 'pay' who have no money.  In other words, only those empowered by the State to act as 'buyers' can set the 'value' of something, thus, the State sets all value.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

...when a salary is determined by the highest bidder (as it should be), who are you to say it is too much?  the value of something is ALWAYS determined by what someone is willing, wisely or unwisely, to pay for it.

Obviously false.  'To pay' for something is to excersize a political power - people cannot 'pay' who have no money.  In other words, only those empowered by the State to act as 'buyers' can set the 'value' of something, thus, the State sets all value.

ok, Gordon

[Sbane]

You had respect for Tucker Carlson and Fox News?

[minionofmidas]

You had respect for Tucker Carlson and Fox News?

Yeah Jeff, that sounds like a symptom of ... oh nevermind.

[Mr. Taft Republican]

You had respect for Tucker Carlson and Fox News?

That's the real news here :/

I don't know Mr. Carlson, but I completely agree with him, or at least the generality that Vick should have suffered more and that he is overpaid. He was the cause of animal suffering and death, and considering that humans are animals, and dogs are man's best friend, he should have gotten a hell of a lot more punishment.

didn't watch the clip, but when a salary is determined by the highest bidder (as it should be), who are you to say it is too much?  the value of something is ALWAYS determined by what someone is willing, wisely or unwisely, to pay for it.

THat wasn't even the point of my comment or this topic.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

You had respect for Tucker Carlson and Fox News?

That's the real news here :/

Amen....Fux News isn't my source for news and information.

[Mr. Taft Republican]

You had respect for Tucker Carlson and Fox News?

That's the real news here :/

Amen....Fux News isn't my source for news and information.

What is? Huffington Post?

[Хahar 🤔]

Like I said before, this wouldn't be happening if Michael Vick were right.

[Mr. Taft Republican]

Like I said before, this wouldn't be happening if Michael Vick were right.

Really? I find dogfighting horrible and appalling. If any Republican candidate was ever caught doing it they would lose my vote and I would crusade to make sure they lose NC in any contest. Might pull a Taxi Driver.

[Хahar 🤔]

Like I said before, this wouldn't be happening if Michael Vick were right.

Really? I find dogfighting horrible and appalling. If any Republican candidate was ever caught doing it they would lose my vote and I would crusade to make sure they lose NC in any contest. Might pull a Taxi Driver.

Do you think that Fox News would be talking about how a white player deserved the death penalty for dogfighting?

[Landslide Lyndon]

You had respect for Tucker Carlson and Fox News?

That's the real news here :/

Amen....Fux News isn't my source for news and information.

What is? Huffington Post?

Huffington Post (or MSNBC for that matter) are far more credible news sources than FOX.

[Mr. Taft Republican]

Like I said before, this wouldn't be happening if Michael Vick were right.

Really? I find dogfighting horrible and appalling. If any Republican candidate was ever caught doing it they would lose my vote and I would crusade to make sure they lose NC in any contest. Might pull a Taxi Driver.

Do you think that Fox News would be talking about how a white player deserved the death penalty for dogfighting?

If its the topic of discussion, and someone holds that opinion, yes.

You had respect for Tucker Carlson and Fox News?

That's the real news here :/

Amen....Fux News isn't my source for news and information.

What is? Huffington Post?

Huffington Post (or MSNBC for that matter) are far more credible news sources than FOX.

With Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews? I highly doubt it.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

You had respect for Tucker Carlson and Fox News?

That's the real news here :/

Amen....Fux News isn't my source for news and information.

What is? Huffington Post?

Ha ha......HuffPo.......no thanks........other than my local paper online, the internets......the AP wires mostly.  I don't watch television news at all.....except the weather forecast that runs at the bottom of the screen.

[Landslide Lyndon]

With Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews? I highly doubt it.

Matthews is a blowhard fool. Liberals despise him as much as conservatives.

Olbermann might be a pompous prick but he doesn't pull facts out of his ass like O'Reilly and Hannity.

[bullmoose88]

Like I said before, this wouldn't be happening if Michael Vick were right.

Really? I find dogfighting horrible and appalling. If any Republican candidate was ever caught doing it they would lose my vote and I would crusade to make sure they lose NC in any contest. Might pull a Taxi Driver.

Do you think that Fox News would be talking about how a white player deserved the death penalty for dogfighting?

That depends...is the white...a liberal? a gay? a hippie? an atheist?  a poor?

[Smash255]

Like I said before, this wouldn't be happening if Michael Vick were right.

Really? I find dogfighting horrible and appalling. If any Republican candidate was ever caught doing it they would lose my vote and I would crusade to make sure they lose NC in any contest. Might pull a Taxi Driver.

Do you think that Fox News would be talking about how a white player deserved the death penalty for dogfighting?

That depends...is the white...a liberal? a gay? a hippie? an atheist?  a poor?

A southern conservative

[Hatman 🍁]

While liberals are opposed to capital punishment, I can see some PETA members supporting Tucker Carlson's statements, which is probably the only time you will see that.

[Eraserhead]

If he's serious, I can sort of understand his feelings. He might be a dog owner. That's probably not something one should be inclined to express on the air though, is it?

More likely than not he just wanted some attention. Seriously, when is the last time Tucker Carlson had any attention?

Also, why was this posted again? Oh yeah, because we needed a separate thread for BushOklahoma's commentary of course!

[memphis]

You had respect for Tucker Carlson and Fox News?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is sooo not even close to why you should have no respect for them.

[fezzyfestoon]

Do you think that Fox News would be talking about how a white player deserved the death penalty for dogfighting?

Nope

[Хahar 🤔]

Like I said before, this wouldn't be happening if Michael Vick were right.

Really? I find dogfighting horrible and appalling. If any Republican candidate was ever caught doing it they would lose my vote and I would crusade to make sure they lose NC in any contest. Might pull a Taxi Driver.

Do you think that Fox News would be talking about how a white player deserved the death penalty for dogfighting?

That depends...is the white...a liberal? a gay? a hippie? an atheist?  a poor?

The white is a professional football player.