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Proud Lieberal from Northeast
Kalwejt
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Re: Oakvale/Snowguy for Atlasia: Campaign HQ
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Reply #100 on:
January 24, 2011, 11:03:21 am »
Oakvale, what is your opinion of the Foreign Policy Reform Act of 2010?
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Re: Oakvale/Snowguy for Atlasia: Campaign HQ
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Reply #101 on:
January 28, 2011, 08:11:48 am »
I echo Vice-President Kalwejt's call for a day of mourning after the tragic events in Nyman.
Quote from: Proud Little Guinea Pig Owner on January 27, 2011, 05:36:18 pm
Mr. President. I'd like to urge you to declare a period of a national mourning following GTO bombing.
Your deputy.
Obviously my sympathies go out to the family of Millie Cooper and those injured in the attack.
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Jbrase
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Re: Oakvale/Snowguy for Atlasia: Campaign HQ
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January 30, 2011, 12:42:56 am »
A question from The Porcupine:
If you were president right now, would you veto or sign into law the current Progressive Tax bill proposed by Antonio?
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Oakvale
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Re: Oakvale/Snowguy for Atlasia: Campaign HQ
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January 30, 2011, 11:02:09 am »
Quote from: Pacific Councilor Jbrase on January 30, 2011, 12:42:56 am
A question from The Porcupine:
If you were president right now, would you veto or sign into law the current Progressive Tax bill proposed by Antonio?
I'd veto it. A 75% marginal tax rate is somewhat counterproductive, I think - although well intentioned.
I'm not opposed to the principle of the bill, but the rates need tweaking.
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Oakvale
oakvale
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Re: Oakvale/Snowguy for Atlasia: Campaign HQ
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Reply #104 on:
February 03, 2011, 07:49:44 am »
ANNOUNCEMENT:
Quote from: Snowguy716 on February 02, 2011, 07:02:44 pm
The official language of the JCP is Dutch, not gobbledygook, Kalwejt.
I would have no objection to changing the official language of the JCP to gobbledygook.
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Purple State
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Re: Oakvale/Snowguy for Atlasia: Campaign HQ
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February 03, 2011, 11:42:37 pm »
I've been kinda spotty checking the forum this past week so I'm not entirely sure if I'm an idiot and missed it, but do you have a platform I can check out?
Snowguy owes me some more intelligent debating.
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Marokai/Purple Main Campaign Thread
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Oakvale
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Re: Oakvale/Snowguy for Atlasia: Campaign HQ
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Reply #106 on:
February 04, 2011, 10:56:15 am »
Quote from: Bemused State (aka Confused State) on February 03, 2011, 11:42:37 pm
I've been kinda spotty checking the forum this past week so I'm not entirely sure if I'm an idiot and missed it, but do you have a platform I can check out?
Snowguy owes me some more intelligent debating.
No, that's my fault! I never got around to writing up the formal document, since I'm lazy and easily distracted (the first debate drew my attention). That said, I outlined my ideas in the debate earlier (and will elaborate in the second one
) but here's a summary. I'll give you a quick outline of my "out of character", if you will, ideas for game reform.
1) I agree with what I'm pleased to see has become the consensus view amongst the candidates. The GM is regularly ignored - there was a massive economic crisis happening for
weeks
while Badger banged his head off the wall.
I'll quote from one of my debate answers, which I think lays out my position pretty well.
Quote from: Governor Oakvale on January 07, 2011, 07:40:15 pm
It's a GM issue - we need to get the GM posting in the Senate, we need regular contact between the administration and Secretaries and the GM, we need the game running according to some kind of actual
plot
. One of the biggest flaws in Atlasia is that laws go into a legislative black hole and are never heard from again - this is especially prevalent on a regional level.
As President, I'd also give the GM a small team of 1-2 assistants, focusing on regional issues, something that my fellow Governors would agree has been ignored for too long.
2) Increase Senate activity. Tighten requirements of office - if you're going to be a Senator, you have to post regularly, and our current "grace period" is too lax. I think the issue of legislative slots is a red herring, and doesn't address the, uh, apathy of some Senators.
I should also add here that I'm unfortunately not in favour of you and M's idea of an "executive slot" (apologies if I got the terminology wrong). Separation of powers and all that.
3) I'm going to copy one of my achievments as Governor - giving the Vice-President (well, Lt. Gov) something to do. Put him/her in charge of mantaining the wiki. It's worked pretty well in the Pacific, and kills two birds with the proverbial stone - we get a decent wiki, and the VP has something to do.
4) The question that occupies pretty much everyone - how to attract new members. The immediate answer presents itself - let's bump down the post requirements - both for registration
and
holding office. A quantity over quality approach isn't great - remember when Junkie, one of our best members, was disqualified from running for the Senate on a technicality?
I'd also encourage the regions to create as many elected positions as viable - elections are, after all, the foucs of the game and many a newbie can get fed up and leave after months as a private citizens.
As I said in the debate, though, I'm against the idea of off site recruitment. It's too easily manipulated by partisan politics, IMO.
Hope that helps.
PS: Here's a tl;dr version.
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1) Two GMs, require them to interact with the other offices of the game - post in the Senate, talk to the President, and so on.
2) Tighten the requirements of being a Senator. Senators post regularly or are removed from office. Meddling with legislative slots, term limits are misguided ideas.
3) Put the VP in charge of the wiki, but the AG should focus on the Statute page.
4) Lower requirements for membership, holding office. Encourage regions to increase number of elected positions.
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tmthforu94
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Re: Oakvale/Snowguy for Atlasia: Campaign HQ
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Reply #107 on:
February 04, 2011, 11:38:14 am »
I agree with most of your points, Oakvale.
I do have one question: When you say give the Vice President the assignment of updating the Wiki, what specific pages do you want him updating?
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Quote from: John_Engle on November 02, 2012, 04:25:37 pm
Tmthforu94
You are very kind my Friend. Thank you and God bless the people like You.
Oakvale
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Re: Oakvale/Snowguy for Atlasia: Campaign HQ
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Reply #108 on:
February 04, 2011, 12:32:30 pm »
Quote from: Tmthforu94 on February 04, 2011, 11:38:14 am
I agree with most of your points, Oakvale.
I do have one question: When you say give the Vice President the assignment of updating the Wiki, what specific pages do you want him updating?
I'd encourage the regional Governors to do what I did (
) and appoint, or delegate, someone to mantain the wiki pages relevant to their region, so hopefully the VP would be free to focus on "federal" stuff - election records, keeping the pages on the various federal institutions up-to-date, that kind of thing.
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Purple State
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Re: Oakvale/Snowguy for Atlasia: Campaign HQ
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Reply #109 on:
February 05, 2011, 09:39:51 pm »
I appreciate you putting that together Oakvale.
I actually am very much in favor of your third point. One thing that we have fixed recently is the decrepit nature of the Statute page, but the Wiki is much more than just that page and making sure a prominent official is charged with maintaining is a good idea.
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Marokai/Purple Main Campaign Thread
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Oakvale
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Re: Oakvale/Snowguy for Atlasia: Awesome people who think Atlasia is just for fun.
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Reply #110 on:
February 08, 2011, 05:12:50 pm »
What the hell happened in the last few hours to make Marokai drop out of the race?
e: Hmm, I get the impression he and Purple State became disillusioned with the campaign. Needless to say, I had my differences with the ticket, but I'm genuinely sorry to see them both go.
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Jbrase
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Re: Oakvale/Snowguy for Atlasia: Now with added Drudge siren
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Reply #111 on:
February 08, 2011, 05:40:57 pm »
Reporter from the The Porcupine
You, sir, agreed to an interview and come hell or high water we will get it.
I suppose in public is as good a place as any. Ignore the person with the shotgun standing behind me.
1st question: Recently Marokai and Purple State withdrew from the race leaving only one ticket on the left, so we ask - How does it feel being elected President of Atlasia?
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Reply #112 on:
February 08, 2011, 06:05:31 pm »
Quote from: Pacific Councilor Jbrase on February 08, 2011, 05:40:57 pm
Reporter from the The Porcupine
You, sir, agreed to an interview and come hell or high water we will get it.
I suppose in public is as good a place as any. Ignore the person with the shotgun standing behind me.
1st question: Recently Marokai and Purple State withdrew from the race leaving only one ticket on the left, so we ask - How does it feel being elected President of Atlasia?
Fail! The UDL is still going to field a candidate, and Tmth is at least even money to beat me even if they didn't!
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Jbrase
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Re: Oakvale/Snowguy for Atlasia: Now with added Drudge siren
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Reply #113 on:
February 08, 2011, 06:15:05 pm »
Question 2: Recently Vice (and acting) President Kalwejt fired the SoIA for inactivity. If you were president would you have done the same?
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Reply #114 on:
February 08, 2011, 06:34:35 pm »
Quote from: Pacific Councilor Jbrase on February 08, 2011, 06:15:05 pm
Question 2: Recently Vice (and acting) President Kalwejt fired the SoIA for inactivity. If you were president would you have done the same?
Yep, I would.
I think Kal did a pretty great job in the brief time he was (sort of) President, and while I have a lot of time for the former Secretary - ironically, he was very, and commendably, active early on in his position - I don't think the Cabinet should be somewhere where you can sit around twiddling your thumbs and enjoying your title.
That said, though, there's a reason SoIAs are often rather inactive - it's a, uh,
weird
position, after all, and I think any "in character" position is very demanding on someone. It also raises a point I've made time and time again - "in character" stuff in Atlasia has a habit of disappearing into a black hole and having no impact on the world again. This makes a job like SoIA rather unrewarding. As President, addressing this pretty major issue would be one of my top priorities.
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Re: Oakvale/Snowguy for Atlasia: Now with added Drudge siren
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Reply #115 on:
February 08, 2011, 07:02:44 pm »
Question 3: As I have asked all other candidates, its only fair I ask you this too. Why in your opinion have we not heard back form the SC whether or not I have been admitted to the bar, after two month's while others have gotten a response in just a few days
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Re: Oakvale/Snowguy for Atlasia: Campaign HQ
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Reply #116 on:
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Quote from: Governor Oakvale on February 04, 2011, 10:56:15 am
I'll give you a quick outline of my "out of character", if you will, ideas for game reform.
1) I agree with what I'm pleased to see has become the consensus view amongst the candidates. The GM is regularly ignored - there was a massive economic crisis happening for
weeks
while Badger banged his head off the wall.
I'll quote from one of my debate answers, which I think lays out my position pretty well.
Quote from: Governor Oakvale on January 07, 2011, 07:40:15 pm
It's a GM issue - we need to get the GM posting in the Senate, we need regular contact between the administration and Secretaries and the GM, we need the game running according to some kind of actual
plot
. One of the biggest flaws in Atlasia is that laws go into a legislative black hole and are never heard from again - this is especially prevalent on a regional level.
As President, I'd also give the GM a small team of 1-2 assistants, focusing on regional issues, something that my fellow Governors would agree has been ignored for too long.
PS: Here's a tl;dr version.
Quote
1) Two GMs, require them to interact with the other offices of the game - post in the Senate, talk to the President, and so on.
At the risk of sounding like a broken record
, I'll restate my own preferences on the issue:
I think multiple GMs is likely to cause more headaches and confusion than not. Its been suggested to have one for domestic issues and another for foreign affairs, but these theatres interact too closely in today's world to have two chefs trying to cook the same stew. Regardless of inevitable jurisdictional disputes, its preferable to have one GM to develop long term plans and storylines that may interact.
That said, the GM job is huge if done properly. The idea of two assistant GMs is excellent, maybe even overdue. I believe the relatively underutilized jobs of SoEA and (especially) SoIA are perfect for these roles which should be incorporated into their job descriptions. This not only gives the GM's Office needed help (especially on domestic budget/economic number crunching and research), but gives these offices an equally needed expansion of their duties and tangible influence in policy decisions.
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Oakvale
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Re: Oakvale/Snowguy for Atlasia: Now with added Drudge siren
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Reply #117 on:
February 14, 2011, 09:07:20 am »
Sorry folks, had kind of an unscheduled (and unexpected) absence there, but everything's under control.
To prove I'm back, here's my campaign symbol:
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Oakvale
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Re: Oakvale/Snowguy for Atlasia: Campaign HQ
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Reply #118 on:
February 14, 2011, 09:12:48 am »
Since the election's getting close, I'd urge all of you to ask any questions you have here, and I'll get back to you ASAP.
Quote from: Badger on February 09, 2011, 10:03:05 am
Quote from: Governor Oakvale on February 04, 2011, 10:56:15 am
I'll give you a quick outline of my "out of character", if you will, ideas for game reform.
1) I agree with what I'm pleased to see has become the consensus view amongst the candidates. The GM is regularly ignored - there was a massive economic crisis happening for
weeks
while Badger banged his head off the wall.
I'll quote from one of my debate answers, which I think lays out my position pretty well.
Quote from: Governor Oakvale on January 07, 2011, 07:40:15 pm
It's a GM issue - we need to get the GM posting in the Senate, we need regular contact between the administration and Secretaries and the GM, we need the game running according to some kind of actual
plot
. One of the biggest flaws in Atlasia is that laws go into a legislative black hole and are never heard from again - this is especially prevalent on a regional level.
As President, I'd also give the GM a small team of 1-2 assistants, focusing on regional issues, something that my fellow Governors would agree has been ignored for too long.
PS: Here's a tl;dr version.
Quote
1) Two GMs, require them to interact with the other offices of the game - post in the Senate, talk to the President, and so on.
At the risk of sounding like a broken record
, I'll restate my own preferences on the issue:
I think multiple GMs is likely to cause more headaches and confusion than not. Its been suggested to have one for domestic issues and another for foreign affairs, but these theatres interact too closely in today's world to have two chefs trying to cook the same stew. Regardless of inevitable jurisdictional disputes, its preferable to have one GM to develop long term plans and storylines that may interact.
That said, the GM job is huge if done properly. The idea of two assistant GMs is excellent, maybe even overdue. I believe the relatively underutilized jobs of SoEA and (especially) SoIA are perfect for these roles which should be incorporated into their job descriptions. This not only gives the GM's Office needed help (especially on domestic budget/economic number crunching and research), but gives these offices an equally needed expansion of their duties and tangible influence in policy decisions.
Well, your opinion as GM is obviously one I'm going to take into account. Given your feelings on this, how's this - I'd be interested in implementing the "assistant" idea for a trial period of a couple of months, see how that goes, and then decided whether to further tinker based on the results.
In other words, if an assistant or two (whether in the guise of the relevant Secretaries or otherwise) makes the position work a little better without the need for a second GM, we can always leave it at that. If not, a second moderator might be the best route forward.
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Re: Oakvale/Snowguy for Atlasia: Any questions?
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Post a pic of your girlfriend, please.
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Re: Oakvale/Snowguy for Atlasia: Any questions?
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Reply #120 on:
February 14, 2011, 10:48:40 am »
What is your opinion of Kalwejt's endless hunt to obtain pictures of Atlasian political figures' girlfriends, possibly for self-pleasure?
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February 14, 2011, 02:24:49 pm »
Quote from: Jake Matthews for NE Assembly and Senate on February 14, 2011, 10:48:40 am
What is your opinion of Kalwejt's endless hunt to obtain pictures of Atlasian political figures' girlfriends, possibly for self-pleasure?
My request must be answered first, Teddy.
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Re: Oakvale/Snowguy for Atlasia: Any questions?
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Reply #122 on:
February 14, 2011, 02:37:06 pm »
Quote from: Wicked Witch on February 14, 2011, 02:24:49 pm
Quote from: Jake Matthews for NE Assembly and Senate on February 14, 2011, 10:48:40 am
What is your opinion of Kalwejt's endless hunt to obtain pictures of Atlasian political figures' girlfriends, possibly for self-pleasure?
My request must be answered first, Teddy.
While it would be hilarious to let you make a fool of yourself a little longer, considering the imminence of the election I must regret to inform you that his IP check works out.
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Kalwejt
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Re: Oakvale/Snowguy for Atlasia: Any questions?
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Reply #123 on:
February 14, 2011, 02:40:30 pm »
Quote from: Don't tax you, don't tax me, tax the man behind the tree. on February 14, 2011, 02:37:06 pm
Quote from: Wicked Witch on February 14, 2011, 02:24:49 pm
Quote from: Jake Matthews for NE Assembly and Senate on February 14, 2011, 10:48:40 am
What is your opinion of Kalwejt's endless hunt to obtain pictures of Atlasian political figures' girlfriends, possibly for self-pleasure?
My request must be answered first, Teddy.
While it would be hilarious to let you make a fool of yourself a little longer, considering the imminence of the election I must regret to inform you that his IP check works out.
Said a great expert who accused Junkie of being Hamilton.
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Quote from: Wicked Witch on February 14, 2011, 10:12:45 am
Post a pic of your girlfriend, please.
Those records are permanently sealed.
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