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« Reply #275 on: January 28, 2012, 10:09:56 PM »

The wealthy form a very small portion of the population; I can't help but think that means-testing would deprive far more people in need than it would rich people who don't need it.
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« Reply #276 on: January 29, 2012, 07:11:10 AM »

It is generally noticed that welfare systems which target the neediest are usually less generous, less popular and less effective in terms of inequality reduction, than those based on universal benefits (the so-called "paradox of redistribution").
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« Reply #277 on: January 29, 2012, 05:44:04 PM »

I am relatively pro free trade, I support only modest gun control laws, and I support means testing Social Security.
Is means-testing really a 'conservative' policy? Because in Australia at least, the liberals support means-testing, whereas conservatives support free-for-all.

The Liberal Party of Australia is the conservative party.
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« Reply #278 on: January 30, 2012, 06:27:37 AM »

I am relatively pro free trade, I support only modest gun control laws, and I support means testing Social Security.
Is means-testing really a 'conservative' policy? Because in Australia at least, the liberals support means-testing, whereas conservatives support free-for-all.

The Liberal Party of Australia is the conservative party.

I realise that, I'm Australian remember Smiley

Talking about liberal/conservatives in American terms. There's no 'term' for lefties down under in the same way there is for righties.
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« Reply #279 on: January 30, 2012, 12:55:33 PM »

Well, I will admit that I am more predisposed to the left-wing (not "liberal") view than many of my fellow Americans...but...

-I think environmental protectionism has gotten out of hand in certain areas (like my state Tongue)

-I dislike the American obsession with "small business owners"

-I am opposed to prostitution (like Antonio, from a left-wing standpoint)

-I don't think certain drugs should be legalized

-I am opposed to strict gun control laws

-I don't think the State is necessarily "better" than, say, a local community organization at solving some of society's ills

-I like Ron Paul's foreign policy stances, but for entirely different reasons than the Ron Paul loving crowd Tongue


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« Reply #280 on: January 30, 2012, 06:02:48 PM »

- Support auditing the Fed
- Support drug testing for welfare recipients (but only if there's evidence that the savings will be greater than the cost of the testing)
- Oppose restrictions on handguns and strict gun control laws
- Support cutting the Corporate Tax
- Support limits on welfare (just so that people aren't living off the system without making an attempt to become self-reliant)
- Support free trade
- Against amnesty
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« Reply #281 on: January 30, 2012, 06:03:57 PM »

- Support limits on welfare (just so that people aren't living off the system without making an attempt to become self-reliant)

This isn't a thing that happens.
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« Reply #282 on: January 30, 2012, 09:55:03 PM »

I'm fairly pro-gun and I believe affirmative action has outlived its usefulness.
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« Reply #283 on: January 30, 2012, 10:04:13 PM »

- Support limits on welfare (just so that people aren't living off the system without making an attempt to become self-reliant)

This isn't a thing that happens.

It is why this was passed.
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« Reply #284 on: January 30, 2012, 10:06:32 PM »

- Support limits on welfare (just so that people aren't living off the system without making an attempt to become self-reliant)

This isn't a thing that happens.

It is why this was passed.

I'm aware of that legislation. It combated an imaginary problem.
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« Reply #285 on: January 30, 2012, 10:18:49 PM »

- Support limits on welfare (just so that people aren't living off the system without making an attempt to become self-reliant)

This isn't a thing that happens.

It is why this was passed.

I'm aware of that legislation. It combated an imaginary problem.

It has happened.  I've seen it from personal experience.  I'm not one of those types who think everyone on welfare doesn't have the incentive to work - most of them do, but there's nothing wrong with making welfare what it is intended to be: a temporary safety net.
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« Reply #286 on: January 31, 2012, 02:49:28 AM »

- Support auditing the Fed
- Support drug testing for welfare recipients (but only if there's evidence that the savings will be greater than the cost of the testing)
- Oppose restrictions on handguns and strict gun control laws
- Support cutting the Corporate Tax
- Support limits on welfare (just so that people aren't living off the system without making an attempt to become self-reliant)
- Support free trade
- Against amnesty

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« Reply #287 on: January 31, 2012, 03:20:04 AM »

- Support auditing the Fed
- Support drug testing for welfare recipients (but only if there's evidence that the savings will be greater than the cost of the testing)
- Oppose restrictions on handguns and strict gun control laws
- Support cutting the Corporate Tax
- Support limits on welfare (just so that people aren't living off the system without making an attempt to become self-reliant)
- Support free trade
- Against amnesty

I support auditing the fed, free trade and limits on welfare. I'm undecided on the corporate tax and generally lean against gun control. I support amnesty though and don't want to test welfare recipients. We seem to be similar in our general outlook, which is rare on this forum!

What do you suggest we do with the illegal immigrants already here?
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« Reply #288 on: January 31, 2012, 03:33:42 AM »

- Support auditing the Fed
- Support drug testing for welfare recipients (but only if there's evidence that the savings will be greater than the cost of the testing)
- Oppose restrictions on handguns and strict gun control laws
- Support cutting the Corporate Tax
- Support limits on welfare (just so that people aren't living off the system without making an attempt to become self-reliant)
- Support free trade
- Against amnesty

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Some of that is legitimately pretty gross.
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« Reply #289 on: January 31, 2012, 03:42:43 AM »

I support free trade
I oppose public financing of campaigns (no way I should pay for some hate-filled conservative's run for office)
I oppose smoking bans

Well, I still support free trade, but as a smoker, I can say that we will follow the law - and if it is illegal to smoke outside of a cafe or restaurant, we will not do it, which indisputably provides a safer environment for employees and patrons alike.  I believe there is a reasonable balance to strike between personal freedom and public safety, and the prohibition of smoking substances outside the privacy of ones own home is really quite fair when one considers the serious health consequences of prolonged exposure to such toxic chemicals.  It is really no different than banning the use of asbestos in the construction of buildings.

Do you smoke Nat Sherman?
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« Reply #290 on: January 31, 2012, 10:38:52 AM »

- Support auditing the Fed
- Support drug testing for welfare recipients (but only if there's evidence that the savings will be greater than the cost of the testing)
- Oppose restrictions on handguns and strict gun control laws
- Support cutting the Corporate Tax
- Support limits on welfare (just so that people aren't living off the system without making an attempt to become self-reliant)
- Support free trade
- Against amnesty

I support auditing the fed, free trade and limits on welfare. I'm undecided on the corporate tax and generally lean against gun control. I support amnesty though and don't want to test welfare recipients. We seem to be similar in our general outlook, which is rare on this forum!

What do you suggest we do with the illegal immigrants already here?

I support a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants already here, which I do not believe would constitute as amnesty.
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« Reply #291 on: January 31, 2012, 10:40:04 AM »

- Support auditing the Fed
- Support drug testing for welfare recipients (but only if there's evidence that the savings will be greater than the cost of the testing)
- Oppose restrictions on handguns and strict gun control laws
- Support cutting the Corporate Tax
- Support limits on welfare (just so that people aren't living off the system without making an attempt to become self-reliant)
- Support free trade
- Against amnesty

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Faaaaaaaar from it.
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« Reply #292 on: January 31, 2012, 11:32:57 AM »

I believe the second amendment says what it means; and I am mostly in favor of free trade and nuclear power.  There's also some small-scale deregulation I'd be in favor of, but only on a case-by-case basis: some deregulation is good (Staggers Act) and some deregulation is horrible (gutting the EPA).
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« Reply #293 on: January 31, 2012, 04:14:32 PM »

- Support auditing the Fed
- Support drug testing for welfare recipients (but only if there's evidence that the savings will be greater than the cost of the testing)
- Oppose restrictions on handguns and strict gun control laws
- Support cutting the Corporate Tax
- Support limits on welfare (just so that people aren't living off the system without making an attempt to become self-reliant)
- Support free trade
- Against amnesty

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Faaaaaaaar from it.

Welfare queens are a right wing myth.
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« Reply #294 on: January 31, 2012, 04:29:39 PM »

- Support auditing the Fed
- Support drug testing for welfare recipients (but only if there's evidence that the savings will be greater than the cost of the testing)
- Oppose restrictions on handguns and strict gun control laws
- Support cutting the Corporate Taxpayers
- Support limits on welfare (just so that people aren't living off the system without making an attempt to become self-reliant)
- Support free trade
- Against amnesty

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Faaaaaaaar from it.

Welfare queens are a right wing myth.

Not in the US. It encourages having kids anyway and needs rethought.
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« Reply #295 on: January 31, 2012, 10:31:43 PM »

- Support auditing the Fed
- Support drug testing for welfare recipients (but only if there's evidence that the savings will be greater than the cost of the testing)
- Oppose restrictions on handguns and strict gun control laws
- Support cutting the Corporate Tax
- Support limits on welfare (just so that people aren't living off the system without making an attempt to become self-reliant)
- Support free trade
- Against amnesty

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Faaaaaaaar from it.

Welfare queens are a right wing myth.

The way I see it, the term "welfare queens" is often used by people on the far-right to generalize.  I have nothing against people on welfare and acknowledge that the vast majority of them have the incentive to work in order to make ends meet.  I just believe that welfare should be what it was intended for: a hand-up for people who have the willingness to be successful.
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« Reply #296 on: February 09, 2012, 02:11:13 AM »

I favor amnesty
I support abortion
I support limited gun control
I support gay marriage
I oppose auditing the fed
I oppose government drug tests for welfare
I support a progressive income tax
I support increased government spending during recessions
I support some regulations on the finance industry
I support the green movement

I think that does it.
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« Reply #297 on: February 09, 2012, 04:28:28 AM »

I favor amnesty
I support abortion
I support limited gun control
I support gay marriage
I oppose auditing the fed
I oppose government drug tests for welfare
I support a progressive income tax
I support increased government spending during recessions
I support some regulations on the finance industry
I support the green movement

I think that does it.

I think you're the first person I've seen here with negative social/economic scores and a Republican avatar.
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« Reply #298 on: February 09, 2012, 05:25:25 AM »

I favor amnesty
I support abortion
I support limited gun control
I support gay marriage
I oppose auditing the fed
I oppose government drug tests for welfare
I support a progressive income tax
I support increased government spending during recessions
I support some regulations on the finance industry
I support the green movement

I think that does it.

I think you're the first person I've seen here with negative social/economic scores and a Republican avatar.

I challenge anyone to explain me AHDuke's politics. Tongue
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« Reply #299 on: February 09, 2012, 01:11:02 PM »
« Edited: February 15, 2012, 12:27:32 PM by Redalgo »

I identify as a social democrat or moderate democratic socialist.

My most conservative aspects:

1. I reject class conflict and do not trust the masses to self-govern with good results.
2. I support a market-based economy and oppose the nationalization of most industries.
3. I consider the corporate tax rate in the States to be overly high and uncompetitive.
4. I reckon labour unions need limits to their power, though I would not seek to bust them.
5. I think the government should sustain balanced budgets except for in times of crisis.
6. I feel the top tier of federal government should only amend and uphold the constitution.
7. I happen to have somewhat strong reservations regarding third-trimester abortions.
8. I support bans on hard recreational drugs such as heroin, cocaine, barbiturates, ect.
9. So long as there is some regulation, I think the general population should be armed.
10. Tort reform sounds like a pretty good idea to me - as does streamlining regulations.
11. I often waver on affirmative action - seeing its effects as positive yet having doubts.
12. I like it when states set aside some money to symbolically glorify their achievements.

As far as I know, however, few of these views contradict my other stances and values.


Edit: Oh-ho! I nearly forgot a real doozy from an environmental standpoint!

13. I fancy nuclear energy quite a bit and consider it to be an ideal replacement for coal.
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