How do you think converts/non-converts voted?

[So the Heroes Fall]

According to the most recent study 44% of Americans are in a different church/religion (or lack thereof) that they were raised in, 56% in what they were raised in (also 9% had converted to something else and then reverted but let's include them in the 56%). How do you think these voted?

I bet that converts were heavily for Obama, with those still in what they were raised in narrowly for Romney and in most sub-examples converts are more Democratic than those raised that way. "Converts" to "None" obviously would be far more Democratic than those raised "none", converts to evangelicalism more than those raised that way (if for nothing else that they'd be less likely to live in the south) and converts to mainline churches more D due to the fact most are probably ex-evangelicals/Catholics. Converts to Catholicism though are probably significantly more Republican than those raised Catholic as are converts to Mormonism though I bet both converts and people who haven't left Mormonism are so Republican comparison is unnecessary. Converts to Judaism might be more Republican than born Jews though still Democratic overall, this includes some Hollywood types after all.

[Progressive Realist]

Converts to Catholicism: Strong Romney
Converts to Mormonism: Strong Romney
Converts to evangelical Protestant denominations: Romney lean
Converts to mainline Protestant denominations: Small population size
Converts to Judaism: Small population size
Converts to Islam: Small population size, but likely strong Obama
Converts to Buddhism: Strong Obama
Converts to None: Strong Obama

[DC Al Fine]

Converts to Catholicism: Strong Romney
Converts to Mormonism: Strong Romney
Converts to evangelical Protestant denominations: Romney lean
Converts to mainline Protestant denominations: Small population size
Converts to Judaism: Small population size
Converts to Islam: Small population size, but likely strong Obama
Converts to Buddhism: Strong Obama
Converts to None: Strong Obama

Pretty much this. I thin Evangelicals could be broken into two groups. One for non-denominational megachurches with no creed, some of the stuff BRTD likes etc. The other for conservative breakaways from the mainline churches, Southern Baptists etc.

The first group would be swing or maybe a slight lean Obama, while the seconds one would be hardcore Romney.

[asexual trans victimologist]

Converts to mainline Protestant denominations: Small population size

Not really. Where's that flowchart of movement between different American religious traditions that BRTD or somebody posted a while back?

[realisticidealist]

Converts to Catholicism: Strong Romney

This convert to catholicism voted for Obama.

[So the Heroes Fall]

Converts to mainline Protestant denominations: Small population size

Not really. Where's that flowchart of movement between different American religious traditions that BRTD or somebody posted a while back?

This?



But yeah there are far more mainline converts than Catholic converts, only something like 2.5% of Americans have converted to Catholicism. Converts to mainline denominations appears to be over 5%, so over twice as many.

Converts to Catholicism: Strong Romney

This convert to catholicism voted for Obama.

"Strong Romney" is not "100% Romney". Most Catholic converts would strike me as either ex-evangelicals who wanted a more traditional church or ex-mainliners who found their church too liberal. Obviously those groups would be strong for Romney.

[asexual trans victimologist]

Yes, thanks, BRTD. That was indeed the chart I meant.

[So the Heroes Fall]

That chart implies mainline converts would be heavily Obama, considering how many are ex-evangelicals. I also bet Catholic-evangelical is far more Democratic than mainline-evangelical though as DC Al Fine noted what type of evangelical they became matters much more. Still overall I'm sure more Democratic than born evangelicals even if for nothing else they aren't as much in the south.

[asexual trans victimologist]

That royal road from 'Catholic' to 'None' is probably one of the most Democratic groups in the country.

[So the Heroes Fall]

That royal road from 'Catholic' to 'None' is probably one of the most Democratic groups in the country.

Evangelical to none is probably more so. A lot of the ex-Catholics might be pretty affluent and not care about any other issues.

Of course none of the tentacles are as Democratic as the Black Protestant one...

[DC Al Fine]

That royal road from 'Catholic' to 'None' is probably one of the most Democratic groups in the country.

Evangelical to none is probably more so. A lot of the ex-Catholics might be pretty affluent and not care about any other issues.

Of course none of the tentacles are as Democratic as the Black Protestant one...

Just curious here: Why do you think Evangelical to None would be more Democratic than Catholic to none?

[So the Heroes Fall]

A lot of those Catholic->None types were raised in very loosely Catholic families and while almost all might be socially liberal they might not prioritize this too highly. A lot might end up like Torie (even though he wasn't raised Catholic.)

On the other hand any evangelical->None is likely to never vote for the party of the religious right.

[DC Al Fine]

A lot of those Catholic->None types were raised in very loosely Catholic families and while almost all might be socially liberal they might not prioritize this too highly. A lot might end up like Torie (even though he wasn't raised Catholic.)

On the other hand any evangelical->None is likely to never vote for the party of the religious right.

Makes sense.

[afleitch]

The largest growing group, the 'nones' voted strongly for Obama. I guess converts would probably be similar with the anti-science rhetoric of the GOP today.

[So the Heroes Fall]

In the US only about half of converts have been to "None".

[afleitch]

In the US only about half of converts have been to "None".

But the are the fastest growing group. Given that you post that graph all the time (and it's by Pew; it's a few years old) you should keep up to date with Pew's findings.

http://www.pewforum.org/Unaffiliated/nones-on-the-rise.aspx

"The number of Americans who do not identify with any religion continues to grow at a rapid pace. One-fifth of the U.S. public – and a third of adults under 30 – are religiously unaffiliated today, the highest percentages ever in Pew Research Center polling.

In the last five years alone, the unaffiliated have increased from just over 15% to just under 20% of all U.S. adults. Their ranks now include more than 13 million self-described atheists and agnostics (nearly 6% of the U.S. public), as well as nearly 33 million people who say they have no particular religious affiliation (14%)"

Luckily it's growing fastest in our age group and the young 'uns.



It's slow but steady in comparison to Europe. Hopefully the dam will burst over the coming years.

[afleitch]

Oh here's a 'switch graph' for Britain for fun.