Socialist International Survivor - Organisation and Results

[Hans-im-Glück]

Member Parties of the Socialist International Survivor

We have 2 groups with all full member parties of the Socialist International. Not included are the Consultative and Observer parties.
GROUP A
GROUP B

The Rule of this Survivor:

Like in the Pope Survivor we eliminate first 3 Parties in every Group.

In the case of a tie, this party is eliminated who has more previous votes.

Is then still a tie, this party who comes from the bigger country is out.

Are both from the same country, I will decide who is eliminated.

You can change your vote only if I, Comrade Hans, allow it. Is there an invalid vote I send normally a PM to the voter.

Have Fun

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

US DEMOCRAT PARTY

[Hans-im-Glück]

US DEMOCRAT PARTY

Wrong thread and wrong Party.

The US Democrats aren't member of the SI

BTW; I'm from 21 January to 1 February not at home. In this time this Survivor will have a break

[big bad fab]

I know my NY Governors is a bit slow in its beginning, but do you want me to suspend it while you're out of your home ?
We are a big number voting, so I think it wouldn't be a problem for our "usual suspects" .

And I won't start my Roman Emperors before being sure you'll be in (anyway, I wait for Magic's comeback).

[Hans-im-Glück]

Member Parties of the Socialist International Survivor

Result Round 1:

Group A:

Constitutional Democratic Rally - Tunisia  6
Ivorian Popular Front - Côte d'Ivoire  6
Italian Socialist Party - Italy  4 (bigger Country)
Direction - Social Democracy - Slovakia  4 (smaler country)
Mauritian Militant Movement - Mauritius  3
People's Electoral Movement - Aruba  1




Group B:

National Democratic Party - Egypt  6
Democratic Socialists of America - United States  5
Republican People's Party - Turkey  4
Israeli Labor Party - Israel  3
Social Democratic Party - Andorra  3
Partido MAN - Curaçao  2
Colombian Liberal Party   Colombia  1




I think no surprises, but that the Slovakian Social Democrats are still in the race isn't good.

fab, i will vote from time to time, but not every day when I'm not at home. This Survivor must wait then till 2 February . The Roman Emperors Survivor willl be fun for me, because I'm a hitory fan and I like the Romans

[Hans-im-Glück]

Member Parties of the Socialist International Survivor

Result Round 2:

Group A:

People's Electoral Movement - Aruba  7
Direction - Social Democracy   Slovakia  6
Mauritian Militant Movement - Mauritius  6
Social Democratic Party of Albania  3
Pakistan Peoples Party   Pakistan  2
South West Africa People's Organisation - Namibia  2
People's National Party - Jamaica  1
Rally of the Guinean People - Guinea 1





Group B:

Partido MAN - Curaçao  6
Institutional Revolutionary Party - Mexico  4
Social Democratic Party - Andorra  4
Israeli Labor Party - Israel  3
Colombian Liberal Party - Colombia  3
Nepali Congress - Nepal  3
Socialist Party of Albania   Albania  2
Puerto Rican Independence Party - Puerto Rico  1
Armenian Revolutionary Federation   Armenia  1
Barbados Labour Party   Barbados  1





The evil Slovakian Smer, many parties from small countries and the PRI is eliminated. The PRI without my vote , but I wanted to eliminate it in the next rounds too .

To your question AL, what is wrong with the DSA?

I can speak only for me, but I voted to eliminate it, because it is a completely insignificant party in a very large country. This is enough for me to vote for the DSA

[big bad fab]

Making me trying to save Sandinistas is really a great achievement, Hans
This survivor is evil !

[Sibboleth]

You could go even further and argue that they're barely a political party, merely a pressure group. But at least they actually belong, unlike some of the parties that became members when Carlsson was Secretary-General.

[big bad fab]

You could go even further and argue that they're barely a political party, merely a pressure group. But at least they actually belong, unlike some of the parties that became members when Carlsson was Secretary-General.

Oh, I was just underlining the irony of me not voting for Sandidnistas.
But, well, it's more for historical reasons that I don't want to kill it in the early rounds. At least, Nicaragua in the 1980s was fascinating, with all these wings inside Sandinistas, with Eden Pastora, etc. And the issue of a "cubanization" that was both wanted (by some like Borge) and forced by Reagan's policy.

Walloon Socialists are of far lesser interest, I believe .

[Hans-im-Glück]

Member Parties of the Socialist International Survivor

Result Round 3:

Group A:

Party of Socialists and Democrats   San Marino  4
Social Democratic Party of Albania   Albania  4
Pakistan Peoples Party   Pakistan  4
Sandinista National Liberation Front - Nicaragua  3
Popular Movement for the Liberation of Angola   Angola  2
Social Democratic Party   Romania  2
Rally of the Guinean People - Guinea  2
People's National Party   Jamaica  1
Convergence for Social Democracy - Equatorial Guinea  1
South West Africa People's Organisation - Namibia  1





Group B:

Nepali Congress - Nepal  5
Colombian Liberal Party - Colombia  4
Israeli Labor Party - Israel  4
Socialist Party of Albania - Albania  3
Puerto Rican Independence Party - Puerto Rico  3
Fusion of Haitian Social Democrats - Haiti  3
Socialist Party (Walloon) - Belgium  3
FRELIMO - Mozambique  3





A normal elimination round. It looks like all the former independence movements are in danger.

This survivor is evil !

From my point of view this isn't a evil Survivor

[big bad fab]

Oh no, it's a real great idea, and it's already very enjoyable, with our votes spread between those who vote based upon current and more moral criterions and those who vote based on historical background.
That's a very fine "debate" and each side has arguments, even if they remain... hidden

So, once again, very good idea, Hans.

[Hans-im-Glück]

Member Parties of the Socialist International Survivor

Result Round 4:

Group A:

Progressive Socialist Party   Lebanon  5
Convergence for Social Democracy - Equatorial Guinea  4
Rally of the Guinean People - Guinea  4
Sandinista National Liberation Front - Nicaragua  3
South West Africa People's Organisation - Namibia  3
Popular Movement for the Liberation of Angola   Angola  2
People's National Party   Jamaica  1





Group B:

Fusion of Haitian Social Democrats - Haiti  6
Socialist Party of Albania - Albania  4
Puerto Rican Independence Party - Puerto Rico  4
Socialist Party (Walloon) - Belgium  3
FRELIMO - Mozambique  2
Rally of Democratic Forces - Mauritania  2
Social Democratic Party   Japan  2
Dominican Revolutionary Party - Dominican Rep.  1




A very bad round for patzies of the Third World.

Why are so many parties called "Rally"? Labor-activism roots, perhaps?

Maybe Fab or Hash can answer this better.

Rally or in French Rassemblement is in the French-speaking countries often a part of the name of the party, whether left or right. Maybe it just sounds good

[big bad fab]

In French or formerly French countries, this has a Gaullist taste: the organization is meant NOT to be a party, a political party, as, for de Gaulle, parties were "dirty", messy, dysfunctional, inefficient.
A "Rally" is a gathering of citizens, en masse around a leader who knows where general interest and national future lies...
And in a leader, you can trust; in a party, you can't, as it has hidden deals and shenanigans.

Of course, there is some irony to see that movements in Guinea, for example, may still use the word "rally", after half a century of more or less sovietized dictatorship....

[homelycooking]

Thanks for the explanation. The Gaullist conception of loose, personality-centered coalitions is largely foreign to us Yanks, I think.

[Hans-im-Glück]

Member Parties of the Socialist International Survivor

Result Round 5:

Group A:

Socialist Forces Front   Algeria  5
South West Africa People's Organisation - Namibia  3 (6 votes in the previous rounds)
Popular Movement for the Liberation of Angola - Angola  3 (4 votes in the previous rounds)
Alliance for Democracy in Mali   Mali  3 (0 votes in the previous rounds)
Socialist Party Different (Flemish)   Belgium  2
Social Democratic Party   Romania  2
Labour Party - Malta  2
MSzP - Hungary  2
Movement for Social Democracy - Cyprus  1
PNP - Jamaica  1





Group B:

Socialist Party (Walloon)   Belgium  5
Democratic Party of Socialists of Montenegro   Montenegro  5
FRELIMO - Mozambique  3 (5 votes in the previous rounds)
Social Democratic Party   Japan  3 (2 votes in the previous rounds)
Barbados Labour Party   Barbados  2
Luxembourg Socialist Workers' Party - Luxembourg  2
Rally of Democratic Forces - Mauritania  1
Dominican Revolutionary Party - Dominican Rep.  1
Democrats of the Left   Italy  1
Movement for Socialism   Venezuela  1




A very bad round for me. The SWAPO, MPLA and FRELIMO are eliminated

[big bad fab]

How sad you must be !

This nasty rightist BBF tried to help you save them, but that was doomed from the beginning .

[Hans-im-Glück]

Member Parties of the Socialist International Survivor

Result Round 6:

Group A:

Hungarian Socialist Party - Hungary  5
Social Democratic Party   Romania  4 (6 votes in the previous rounds)
Alliance for Democracy in Mali - Mali  4 (3 votes in the previous rounds)
Labour Party - Malta  4 (2 votes in the previous rounds)
People's National Party - Jamaica  3
Sandinista National Liberation Front   Nicaragua  2
Party for Democracy and Progress / Socialist Party   Burkina Faso  1
Revolutionary Febrerista Party - Paraguay  1




Group B:

Rally of Democratic Forces - Mauritania  6
Social Democratic Party - Japan  5
Movement for Socialism - Venezuela  5
Barbados Labour Party   Barbados  4
Dominican Revolutionary Party - Dominican Rep.  1
Luxembourg Socialist Workers' Party - Luxembourg  1
Mauritian Labour Party - Mauritius  1
Democrats of the Left   Italy  1




This was a normal round.

[Hans-im-Glück]

Member Parties of the Socialist International Survivor

Result Round 7:

Group A:

Labour Party - Malta  4
Social Democratic Party of Montenegro - Montenegro  4
People's National Party - Jamaica  3 (7 votes in the previous rounds)
Social Democratic Party of Bosnia and Herzegovina   Bosnia and Herzegovina  3 (no votes in the previous rounds)
Movement for Social Democracy - Cyprus  3 (1 vote in the previous rounds)
Party for Democracy and Progress / Socialist Party   Burkina Faso  2
Revolutionary Febrerista Party - Paraguay  1
Sandinista National Liberation Front   Nicaragua  1
Panhellenic Socialist Movement   Greece  1
Movement for Democratic Change - Tsvangirai   Zimbabwe  1
Party for Democracy   Chile  1




Group B:

Barbados Labour Party  5
Mauritian Labour Party - Mauritius  4
Alliance of Independent Social Democrats - Bosnia and Herzegovina  4
Bulgarian Socialist Party   Bulgaria  3
Luxembourg Socialist Workers' Party - Luxembourg  2
Armenian Revolutionary Federation   Armenia  1
Dominican Revolutionary Party - Dominican Rep.  1




Now you have enough time to think what party you want to eliminate. I have vacation and the next round, Nr. 9 starts February 2.

[Hans-im-Glück]

Member Parties of the Socialist International Survivor

Result Round 8:

Group A:

Party for Democracy and Progress / Socialist Party   Burkina Faso  5
Social Democratic Party - Benin  4
Sandinista National Liberation Front - Nicaragua  4
Social Democratic Party of Bosnia and Herzegovina   Bosnia and Herzegovina  3
Democratic Party of Moldova   Moldova  2
Revolutionary Febrerista Party - Paraguay  2
Social Democratic Union of Macedonia - Macedonia  2
Movement for Democratic Change - Tsvangirai   Zimbabwe  1
Panhellenic Socialist Movement   Greece  1




Group B:

Social Democratic Front   Cameroon  6
Bulgarian Socialist Party  4
Luxembourg Socialist Workers' Party - Luxembourg  3 (5 votes in thee previous Rounds)
Democratic Revolutionary Party   Panama  3 (no votes in the previous Rounds)
Armenian Revolutionary Federation   Armenia  3 (2 votes in thee previous Rounds)
Nigerien Party for Democracy and Socialism   Niger  2
Mongolian People's Revolutionary Party - Mongolia  2
Dominican Revolutionary Party   Dominican Republic  1





I am back

For the parties of Burkina Fsso and Benin I don't found a logo.

[Hans-im-Glück]

Member Parties of the Socialist International Survivor

Result Round 9:

Group A:

Social Democratic Union of Macedonia - Macedonia  6
Movement for Democratic Change - Tsvangirai   Zimbabwe  5
Movement for Social Democracy   Cyprus  3 (4 votes in the previous rounds)
Democratic Party of Moldova   Moldova  3 (2 votes in the previous rounds)
Revolutionary Febrerista Party   Paraguay  2
Socialist Union of Popular Forces - Morocco  2
Panhellenic Socialist Movement   Greece  1
Socialist Party of Chile   Chile  1
Democratic Left - Ecuador  1





Group B:

National Unity of Hope - Guatemala  5
Nigerien Party for Democracy and Socialism   Niger  5
Armenian Revolutionary Federation   Armenia  4 (5 votes in the previous rounds)
Mongolian People's Revolutionary Party - Mongolia  4 (3 votes in the previous rounds)
Democratic Revolutionary Party   Panama  3
Dominican Revolutionary Party   Dominican Republic  2
African Party for the Independence of Cape Verde - Cape Verde  1




This round, many Parties with Hands in their logo are eliminated

[Hans-im-Glück]

Member Parties of the Socialist International Survivor

Result Round 9:

Group A:

Party of Bulgarian Social Democrats   Bulgaria  6
Democratic Party of Moldova   Moldova  6
Patriotic Union of Kurdistan   Iraq  5
Revolutionary Febrerista Party   Paraguay  4
Panhellenic Socialist Movement   Greece  2
Socialist Union of Popular Forces - Morocco  2
Socialist Party of Senegal   Senegal  1
Socialist Party - Portugal  1
Democratic Left - Ecuador  1




Group B:

Rally for Mali   Mali  6
Democratic Revolutionary Party   Panama  5 (6 votes in the previous rounds)
Mongolian People's Revolutionary Party - Mongolia  5 (6 votes in the previous rounds)
Democratic Action Party   Malaysia  5 (no votes in the previous rounds)
African Party for the Independence of Cape Verde - Cape Verde  2
Social Democratic Alliance - Iceland  1




For the party of Mali I don't found a logo again

[big bad fab]

After my failure to save Mongolia, I'm trying to save Paraguay, thus dropping PASOK

(and, frankly, Iceland's SD has no real interest: I know it's a surpising vote, but not so much in fact ).

[Edu]

After my failure to save Mongolia, I'm trying to save Paraguay, thus dropping PASOK

(and, frankly, Iceland's SD has no real interest: I know it's a surpising vote, but not so much in fact ).

Yeah, it's at time like this that it's useful to be able to read the spanish wikipedia which has a lot more information of the Revolutionary Febrerista Party (or Partido Revolucionario Febrerista ) of Paraguay than the english version.

[Hans-im-Glück]

Member Parties of the Socialist International Survivor

Result Round 11:

Group A:

Socialist Union of Popular Forces   Morocco  7
Social Democratic Party of Bosnia and Herzegovina   Bosnia and Herzegovina  5
Revolutionary Febrerista Party   Paraguay  4
Panhellenic Socialist Movement   Greece  3
Party for Democracy   Chile  3
Democratic Left - Ecuador  2
Socialist Party of Senegal  2
Socialist Party - Portugal  1
Socialist Party (Flemish) Belgium  1




Group B:

Latvian Social Democratic Workers' Party   Latvia  5
Social Democratic Party   Estonia  5
Democrats of the Left   Italy  4
Democratic Action Party   Malaysia  3
American Popular Revolutionary Alliance   Peru  2
Social Democratic Radical Party   Chile  2
Social Democratic Alliance   Iceland  2
African Party for the Independence of Cape Verde - Cape Verde  1





This was a bad round for parties with flowers in their logo

When we have only 30-35 Parties, then I'll put all remaining parties to the final Group.

[Hans-im-Glück]

Member Parties of the Socialist International Survivor

Result Round 12:

Group A:

Party for Democracy   Chile  6
Panhellenic Socialist Movement   Greece  4 (8 votes in the previous rounds)
Socialist Party Different (Flemish)   Belgium  4 (3 votes in the previous rounds)
Social Democratic Party of Lithuania   Lithuania  4 (no votes in the previous rounds)
Democratic Action   Venezuela  3
Socialist Party of Senegal - Senegal  3
Democratic Left - Ecuador  2
Socialist Party - Portugal  1
Labour Party   United Kingdom  1




Group B:

Democratic Action Party   Malaysia  6
Social Democratic Radical Party   Chile  6
Social Democratic Alliance   Iceland  6
African Party for the Independence of Cape Verde - Cape Verde  3
Australian Labor Party   Australia  3
American Popular Revolutionary Alliance   Peru  1
Radical Civic Union   Argentina  1
National Liberation Party   Costa Rica  1
Social Democratic and Labour Party - Northern Ireland  1





Don't worry Ben. We will tell nobody that you voted against PASOK

A bad round for Chile, but they hold with 3 parties the most members. Cape Verde is still in the race. This makes me on one side happy, but I don't think they are worth to be in the Final group.

This is the last round with 2 groups.