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« on: January 13, 2011, 01:12:05 am »
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Welcome, one and all to the Pacific Supreme Council!

As the current Lt. Governor, I will be serving as the Leader of the Council, a sort of President Pro Tempore if you will.  It is my responsibility to facilitate debate, votes, and break ties.

So yes, as our first act, I believe we should start creating a Council Rulebook, so we have set procedures for all debates, votes, and other council business.

Sadly, I cannot work on such a task alone for the time being mainly because I'm extremely busy this week, so let us begin brainstorming! Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2011, 01:28:22 am »
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I don't think we need set rules. The Mideast Assembly worked well for a long time without them.
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2011, 01:36:43 am »
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Quote from: Χahar on January 13, 2011, 01:28:22 am
I don't think we need set rules. The Mideast Assembly worked well for a long time without them.

Well, that is true.  But I just think we should have some sort of guideline so we don't have any issues later on.
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2011, 01:37:01 am »
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Quote from: Χahar on January 13, 2011, 01:28:22 am
I don't think we need set rules. The Mideast Assembly worked well for a long time without them.

And still does! Grin
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2011, 01:38:02 am »
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Should we elect a President Pro-Tempor or a Speaker or something? (Not to try and steal a certain Lt Gov's job Tongue )
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2011, 01:57:06 am »
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Quote from: Pacific Councilor Jbrase on January 13, 2011, 01:38:02 am
Should we elect a President Pro-Tempor or a Speaker or something? (Not to try and steal a certain Lt Gov's job Tongue )

I initially thought about going with that, but it seems a little unnecessary when there are only 4 or 5 members on the Council. Furthermore, having the 'chair' not be part of the voting membership is preferable in my opinion as it limits bias and equalizes the power relationships. As long as the Lt. Governor does his job (now that he actually has one Tongue ), that is. Wink
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2011, 02:24:53 am »
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Well I started the thread on time, didn't I? Tongue

Anyway, the process according to the law should be something like this:

Law proposed -> Debate for a day or two -> Vote -> Send it to the People's Assembly for a final vote.
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2011, 08:02:47 am »
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Congratulations to or new councilors, I hope you will enjoy your new job. Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2011, 02:57:58 pm »
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*feels warm and fuzzy*

A real change for the better in our region, I think. Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2011, 03:41:31 pm »
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Quote from: The Right Honourable Director of Halifax, Lt. Gov The Doctor on January 13, 2011, 02:24:53 am
Well I started the thread on time, didn't I? Tongue

Anyway, the process according to the law should be something like this:

Law proposed -> Debate for a day or two -> Vote -> Send it to the People's Assembly for a final vote.

Sounds good. Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2011, 07:40:32 pm »
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So yes....who wants to propose the landmark first law?
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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2011, 10:52:45 pm »
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Quote from: The Right Honourable Director of Halifax, Lt. Gov The Doctor on January 13, 2011, 07:40:32 pm
So yes....who wants to propose the landmark first law?


The debate rules you mentioned sound good. 
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2011, 01:24:11 am »
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Quote from: Pacific Councilor Mr. Fuzzleton on January 14, 2011, 10:52:45 pm
Quote from: The Right Honourable Director of Halifax, Lt. Gov The Doctor on January 13, 2011, 07:40:32 pm
So yes....who wants to propose the landmark first law?


The debate rules you mentioned sound good. 

Well if you guys want to debate whether or not the guidelines should be passed as a law, I won't stop you.Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2011, 05:26:13 pm »
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Anyone want to debate the rules provided by Archangel?
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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2011, 09:19:12 pm »
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Quote from: Pacific Councilor Mr. Fuzzleton on January 15, 2011, 05:26:13 pm
Anyone want to debate the rules provided by Archangel?
I think it is ready for a vote, if we are gonna vote on it that is.
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« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2011, 06:32:47 pm »
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Quote from: Pacific Councilor Peter Griffin on January 15, 2011, 09:19:12 pm
Quote from: Pacific Councilor Mr. Fuzzleton on January 15, 2011, 05:26:13 pm
Anyone want to debate the rules provided by Archangel?
I think it is ready for a vote, if we are gonna vote on it that is.

Yes, I agree.
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« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2011, 06:46:00 pm »
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Okay, here's a draft:



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Rules for: Legislation and Debate processes in the Pacific Supreme Council

Written by Archangel and Mr. Fuzzleton

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1.)  Any bill that is proposed to the Pacific Supreme Council will not be debated on for longer than 3 days.

2.)  Any Pacific Councilor may introduce a bill to the Council Body

3.)  Any bill which faces a tie vote in the Council Body will be sent to the Lt. Governor, who will decide the bill's fate.

4.)  Any bill which is passed by the the Council Body will be sent to the Pacific Citizens for confirmation, and if passed by the citizens it is sent to the governor to sign or veto/silent veto.
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« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2011, 09:05:36 pm »
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Quote from: Pacific Councilor Mr. Fuzzleton on January 16, 2011, 06:46:00 pm
Okay, here's a draft:



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Rules for: Legislation and Debate processes in the Pacific Supreme Council

Written by Archangel and Mr. Fuzzleton

Section:
1.)  Any bill that is proposed to the Pacific Supreme Council will not be debated on for longer than 3 days.

2.)  Any Pacific Councilor may introduce a bill to the Council Body

3.)  Any bill which faces a tie vote in the Council Body will be sent to the Lt. Governor, who will decide the bill's fate.

4.)  Any bill which is passed by the the Council Body will be sent to the Pacific Citizens for confirmation, and if passed by the citizens it is sent to the governor to sign or veto/silent veto.


With Fuzzy's bill, I don't think there are any objections to putting this to a vote.  Voting will be open for a 48 hour period since it's simply procedural rules.
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« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2011, 09:47:07 pm »
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Is voting open?
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« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2011, 11:41:10 pm »
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Quote from: Pacific Councilor realisticidealist on January 16, 2011, 09:47:07 pm
Is voting open?

Yes. 
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« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2011, 11:41:45 pm »
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Quote from: The Right Honourable Director of Halifax, Lt. Gov The Doctor on January 16, 2011, 09:05:36 pm
Quote from: Pacific Councilor Mr. Fuzzleton on January 16, 2011, 06:46:00 pm
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Rules for: Legislation and Debate processes in the Pacific Supreme Council

Written by Archangel and Mr. Fuzzleton

Section:
1.)  Any bill that is proposed to the Pacific Supreme Council will not be debated on for longer than 3 days.

2.)  Any Pacific Councilor may introduce a bill to the Council Body

3.)  Any bill which faces a tie vote in the Council Body will be sent to the Lt. Governor, who will decide the bill's fate.

4.)  Any bill which is passed by the the Council Body will be sent to the Pacific Citizens for confirmation, and if passed by the citizens it is sent to the governor to sign or veto/silent veto.


With Fuzzy's bill, I don't think there are any objections to putting this to a vote.  Voting will be open for a 48 hour period since it's simply procedural rules.

Aye.
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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2011, 11:54:52 pm »
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« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2011, 12:23:16 am »
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« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2011, 08:12:12 pm »
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Technically the bill has already passed, but I think we should wait for Xahar's vote so the guidelines can't be disputed.
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« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2011, 06:48:43 pm »
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And the last vote.......
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