democrats: if forced to vote republican

[freepcrusher]

who would you vote for in a presidential election. I will name two general candidates:

Henry Leibowitz - law degree from Columbia University. An orthodox Jew who lives in Brooklyn. A self described "neocon" and a billionaire. Has written many books and toured in seminars promoting the free market and the "invisible hand". Has connections to Wall Street and DC Lobbyists.

Wayne Simpson - graduated from Oral Roberts University and is a senator from Oklahoma. Is a proud father of five children and has been married for 30 years. He has given many seminars on the importance of family, community, patriotism, and belief in God. While he is proud to call himself a Republican, he still has no bad blood with the democrats. "God made this wonderful country for all people, republican, democrat, or independent." His parents were strong FDR democrats. He himself was once a democrat and was elected to the Oklahoma legislature as a democrat in 1984 before switching parties in 1989. When in college, he remembers being the chairman of the "students for Carter Mondale" club.

[Person Man]

So basically whether I would vote for Mike Huckabee or Rudy Guiliani? I would go with the latter. I agree more with neoconservatism than paleoconservatism. I'd vote for Liebowitz.

[hcallega]

I'd go with Simpson.

[Insula Dei]

I'd go with number 2 as he as at least a few redeeming qualities.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

I'd go with Simpson; I'd prefer a socially conservative populist to a warmongering billionaire.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I'd go with number 2 as he as at least a few redeeming qualities.

Same for me.

[Antonio the Sixth]

What are Simpson's views about taxes and Welfare State ? If he is a genuine populist (ie someone who actually support measures that favor the people), I might after all support him.

[freepcrusher]

Wayne Simpson: "I am neither a tax and spend liberal nor am I a fastidious tax-cutter. Taxes are necessary for some things and unnecessary for others."

[hcallega]

Not to hijack the forum, I think some community suggestions could make this a lot of fun

Senator Raymond Rupp (R-MT): Senator Rupp was elected to the United States Senate in the 1990s after serving as Governor of Montana. Rupp has paved a record as a staunch fiscal conservative, cutting spending across the board as Governor in the late 1980s. As a Senator he signed on as a cosponsor of the balanced budget amendment, and has come out in favor of a line item veto. Rupp is a social moderate, taking a pro-life and pro-gun stance. However he is in favor of the state's deciding on gay marriage, and voted to repeal don't ask don't tell. On immigration he has opposed comprehensive reform, though he voted for the Dream Act. Rupp voted against the bailouts, health care reform, and the stimulus. However he worked with Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) and Bob Bennett (R-UT) to attempt to forge a compromise health care bill. He has said that he's open to working with Wyden and Scott Brown (R-MA) to craft a "better health care bill, rather than starting from scratch". Rupp is to the left on the environment, strongly supporting green jobs and investment in alternative energy. He also supports a modified version of Cap-and-Trade. Rupp voted for the war in Iraq but joined Senator Chuck Hagel (R-NE) in calling for a timetable for withdrawal. He believes a timetable is needed in Afghanistan too.

Rep. Max Simon (R-AR)
Max Simon is one of the House's youngest, and most passionate, members. Elected in 2004, Simon ran on a platform of "values, first, second, and third". A staunch social conservative, he supports a human life amendment, a constitutional ban on gay marriage, and a ban on embryonic stem cell research. Focusing on these issues, he has mostly left foreign policy and the economy on the side. When he has spoken out on these issues it's usually been when "values and the market collide". He supports greater aid to African nations, and greater funding for AIDS research. He opposes most climate change legislation, but supports green jobs. Simon supports immigration reform and greater funding for education. He opposed the health care law on the grounds that it was too weak on abortion funding.

[freepcrusher]

I would vote for Rupp easily. People like Simon are part of the reason why I am a democrat.

[albaleman]

I'd go with Simpson and Rupp.

[Person Man]

Rupp seems to be the best choice followed by Leibowitz, then Simpson and then Simon. Simon just seems like an idiot cultist and Rupp seems pretty moderate.

[WillK]

Simpson.  Other than his lapse of judgment in switching parties, whats not to like?

"neocon", "invisible hand" and DClobbyists are warning signs. 

who would you vote for in a presidential election. I will name two general candidates:

Henry Leibowitz - law degree from Columbia University. An orthodox Jew who lives in Brooklyn. A self described "neocon" and a billionaire. Has written many books and toured in seminars promoting the free market and the "invisible hand". Has connections to Wall Street and DC Lobbyists.

Wayne Simpson - graduated from Oral Roberts University and is a senator from Oklahoma. Is a proud father of five children and has been married for 30 years. He has given many seminars on the importance of family, community, patriotism, and belief in God. While he is proud to call himself a Republican, he still has no bad blood with the democrats. "God made this wonderful country for all people, republican, democrat, or independent." His parents were strong FDR democrats. He himself was once a democrat and was elected to the Oklahoma legislature as a democrat in 1984 before switching parties in 1989. When in college, he remembers being the chairman of the "students for Carter Mondale" club.

[WillK]

easily Rupp.   

Not to hijack the forum, I think some community suggestions could make this a lot of fun

Senator Raymond Rupp (R-MT): Senator Rupp was elected to the United States Senate in the 1990s after serving as Governor of Montana. Rupp has paved a record as a staunch fiscal conservative, cutting spending across the board as Governor in the late 1980s. As a Senator he signed on as a cosponsor of the balanced budget amendment, and has come out in favor of a line item veto. Rupp is a social moderate, taking a pro-life and pro-gun stance. However he is in favor of the state's deciding on gay marriage, and voted to repeal don't ask don't tell. On immigration he has opposed comprehensive reform, though he voted for the Dream Act. Rupp voted against the bailouts, health care reform, and the stimulus. However he worked with Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) and Bob Bennett (R-UT) to attempt to forge a compromise health care bill. He has said that he's open to working with Wyden and Scott Brown (R-MA) to craft a "better health care bill, rather than starting from scratch". Rupp is to the left on the environment, strongly supporting green jobs and investment in alternative energy. He also supports a modified version of Cap-and-Trade. Rupp voted for the war in Iraq but joined Senator Chuck Hagel (R-NE) in calling for a timetable for withdrawal. He believes a timetable is needed in Afghanistan too.

Rep. Max Simon (R-AR)
Max Simon is one of the House's youngest, and most passionate, members. Elected in 2004, Simon ran on a platform of "values, first, second, and third". A staunch social conservative, he supports a human life amendment, a constitutional ban on gay marriage, and a ban on embryonic stem cell research. Focusing on these issues, he has mostly left foreign policy and the economy on the side. When he has spoken out on these issues it's usually been when "values and the market collide". He supports greater aid to African nations, and greater funding for AIDS research. He opposes most climate change legislation, but supports green jobs. Simon supports immigration reform and greater funding for education. He opposed the health care law on the grounds that it was too weak on abortion funding.

[freepcrusher]

Simpson.  Other than his lapse of judgment in switching parties, whats not to like?

he believes that if a woman was raped, that if she becomes pregnant it is a "gift from god" that it makes a good thing out of a bad thing.

[WillK]

Simpson.  Other than his lapse of judgment in switching parties, whats not to like?

he believes that if a woman was raped, that if she becomes pregnant it is a "gift from god" that it makes a good thing out of a bad thing.

Ahh, new information...

[Antonio the Sixth]

I guess I'd go with Simpson/Rupp. The first choice is harder, but Leibowitz just looks like a greedy neoliberal asshole.

[Person Man]

I guess I'd go with Simpson/Rupp. The first choice is harder, but Leibowitz just looks like a greedy neoliberal asshole.

At least he looks like he knows what he is doing and won't do the entire stem cell funding ban and creationism pitch.