10 years ago today....

[WillK]

He should have gotten up and acted like President.  You are claiming his response to 9/11 was so great.  Well there it was -- his response to an attack on this country is to just sit there.

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Trivial matters?  The event of 9/11 is now to you a trivial matter.  Fascinating.

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Who said it would have stopped them from dying?

So we have learned that in your world view, a  president should prioritize ready with elementary school kids over national security.  Got it.  Guess that's why I'm not a republican. 

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That is the weakest most pathetic excuse ever thought up. 

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As far as I am aware, immediately after he was briefed.

[Keystone Phil]

Trivial matters?  The event of 9/11 is now to you a trivial matter.  Fascinating.

No, making an issue out of his seven minutes of reading a book is trivial. Don't bother responding if you're going to debate like a child.

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So what should he have done that would have made an immediate difference.

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Again, what national security decisions would have been made in those seven minutes that weren't made afterwards that would changed things?  

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I know. It wouldn't have stopped his haters from using it though!  

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Wow. James Carville, that evil Republican operative, would like to have a word with you.

[WillK]

Trivial matters?  The event of 9/11 is now to you a trivial matter.  Fascinating.

No, making an issue out of his seven minutes of reading a book is trivial. Don't bother responding if you're going to debate like a child.

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I am not debating like a child.  These are the seven minutes after planes struck the world trade center and before one had struck the Pentagon.  I don't consider what the President, any President, was doing during an attack on the country to be trivial.  

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There was still hijacked planes in the air.  I think the President has a constitutional job to do as commander in chief and reading kids books is not it.  You seems to want to know what specific decisions he should have made.  I don't know.  Doesn't matter.  What matters is that he make decisions in a time of crisis.  He didn't.  Crisis reveals character and his was shown to be lacking.  

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Bullsh**t.  Its just a lame attempt to excuse his inaction.  

[memphis]

he wasn't the worst we've ever seen.

Name somebody worse. Did anybody else oversee a disasterous war of choice AND an economic collapse. Johnson had the first and Coolidge/Hoover had the 2nd. Only Bush was epic fail enough to do both.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

he wasn't the worst we've ever seen.

Name somebody worse. Did anybody else oversee a disasterous war of choice AND an economic collapse. Johnson had the first and Coolidge/Hoover had the 2nd. Only Bush was epic fail enough to do both.

Carter would be high on my list of sh**tty Presidents........they were both poor, in different ways.

[Iosif]

An illegal war, a shambolic mismanagement of a natural disaster and the worst economic collapse in 80 years.

What a great 8 years!

[Landslide Lyndon]

An illegal war, a shambolic mismanagement of a natural disaster and the worst economic collapse in 80 years.

What a great 8 years!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w6fSlDW4Lg

[Keystone Phil]

I am not debating like a child.  These are the seven minutes after planes struck the world trade center and before one had struck the Pentagon.  I don't consider what the President, any President, was doing during an attack on the country to be trivial.

Still waiting on something Bush would have done that would have had a different impact. Otherwise, yes, it's a trivial complaint.  

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But he ended up making decisions afterwards and we have the result. So, again, what could have been done that would have brought about a different result?

Of course you don't have a specific decision that you wanted made during those seven minutes. Further proof that this is trivial.  

[Antonio the Sixth]

Eh, on this day in history! Google also tells me its been 50 years since Kennedy's inauguration.

Seems logical since inaugurations happen at the same period of the year and come back every two decades. FWIW, it was also 30 years since Reagan's inauguration, 90 years since Harding's inauguration, 130 years since Garfield's inauguration, 150 years since Lincoln's inauguration, 170 years since W. H. Harrison's inauguration and 210 years since Jefferson's inauguration.

Not exactly, inaguaration's were on March 4 up until 1933.

Yeah, you're right, but still.

[Mjh]

I miss Dubya.

So do most comedians.

They still have some material in this though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxxGUeZtno

Dude, couldn't you find anything more lame?
You ran out of jokes about the gangsta' from the hood smoking crack with the hos?

You are the first one here to mention anything about ho and the "hood".

But no, I hardly couldn't find anything more lame than Obama himself.

[Landslide Lyndon]

I miss Dubya.

So do most comedians.

They still have some material in this though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxxGUeZtno

Dude, couldn't you find anything more lame?
You ran out of jokes about the gangsta' from the hood smoking crack with the hos?

You are the first one here to mention anything about ho and the "hood".

But no, I hardly couldn't find anything more lame than Obama himself.

If that's the case then you should get out of your house more.

[DrScholl]

It took a lot of hustling to get him there, but Brother Jeb and Katherine Harris made sure he got there. Thank god illegal votes were counted, otherwise we would have missed out on his phenomenal presidency.

[Franzl]

Thank god illegal votes were counted

Which illegal votes were counted? I do wish people would at least try to stick to facts.

Mind you, the election in Florida wasn't run properly....but I haven't heard that one before.

[memphis]

he wasn't the worst we've ever seen.

Name somebody worse. Did anybody else oversee a disasterous war of choice AND an economic collapse. Johnson had the first and Coolidge/Hoover had the 2nd. Only Bush was epic fail enough to do both.

Carter would be high on my list of sh**tty Presidents........they were both poor, in different ways.

Seriously? Carter was inept. Bush was disasterous. They're not even in the same league.

[DrScholl]

Which illegal votes were counted? I do wish people would at least try to stick to facts.

Mind you, the election in Florida wasn't run properly....but I haven't heard that one before.

There were about 680 overseas ballots that were counted.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2001-07-15/news/0107150297_1_overseas-ballots-absentee-ballots-overseas-votes

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But the damage is done.

[Franzl]

I stand corrected.

Regardless though.....there are a lot more convincing arguments than 600 absentee ballots.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Hmm, what a sad day for America (and the World) this day was (and also the election day before) ...

Indeed, I remember being genuinely miserable watching it.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=130959.msg2790477#msg2790477

A much better day for America and the world.

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

At least his presidency gave us this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aEURwsrUSQ

[Redalgo]

I was disappointed for a long time. Still, Bush stepping down was closure enough for me not to hold a grudge.

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Eh, on this day in history! Google also tells me its been 50 years since Kennedy's inauguration.

Seems logical since inaugurations happen at the same period of the year and come back every two decades. FWIW, it was also 30 years since Reagan's inauguration, 90 years since Harding's inauguration, 130 years since Garfield's inauguration, 150 years since Lincoln's inauguration, 170 years since W. H. Harrison's inauguration and 210 years since Jefferson's inauguration.

Hint: check the 20th amendment.

[Joe Biden 2020]

he wasn't the worst we've ever seen.

Name somebody worse. Did anybody else oversee a disasterous war of choice AND an economic collapse. Johnson had the first and Coolidge/Hoover had the 2nd. Only Bush was epic fail enough to do both.

Carter would be high on my list of sh**tty Presidents........they were both poor, in different ways.

Seriously? Carter was inept. Bush was disasterous. They're not even in the same league.

Carter has been a much better ex-president than he ever was in the White House.

He handled 9/11 great and, contrary to popular opinion, the war in Iraq was a necessary evil.  There is no way that Saddam Hussein would have given up control through diplomatic efforts.  No one in their right mind would argue that Saddam Hussein needed to be removed from power.  Even if he didn't have WMD's at the time, who's not to say he wouldn't have continued to terrorize his neighbors and his own people.  Bush's mistake was not going into Iraq, but not knowing what to do once he toppled the regime.  We could have been there a lot shorter of a time had the Bush administration had known what to do once the regime was removed.  He went in late March 2003, and the regime was toppled before May 1 that same year.  We could have easily been out of there by 2004 and we would have saved thousands of our young men and could have focused more on Afghanistan, and possibly have ended that war by the time he left office.  Instead that one mistake after Saddam was removed cost us another 7 years in Iraq and forced his successor to fight a war that had no business going on that long.

As far as the economy goes, sure Bush could have done a lot more to prevent collapse, but the blame is not his alone.  It belongs partly to the Clinton administration for not regulating the banks in the late 1990s.

[Mjh]

I miss Dubya.

So do most comedians.

They still have some material in this though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxxGUeZtno

Dude, couldn't you find anything more lame?
You ran out of jokes about the gangsta' from the hood smoking crack with the hos?

You are the first one here to mention anything about ho and the "hood".

But no, I hardly couldn't find anything more lame than Obama himself.

If that's the case then you should get out of your house more.

You probably need it more than I do.

[Landslide Lyndon]

I miss Dubya.

So do most comedians.

They still have some material in this though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxxGUeZtno

Dude, couldn't you find anything more lame?
You ran out of jokes about the gangsta' from the hood smoking crack with the hos?

You are the first one here to mention anything about ho and the "hood".

But no, I hardly couldn't find anything more lame than Obama himself.

If that's the case then you should get out of your house more.

You probably need it more than I do.

No I don't.

[Franzl]

No one in their right mind would argue that Saddam Hussein needed to be removed from power. 

Very true.

[Mjh]

I miss Dubya.

So do most comedians.

They still have some material in this though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxxGUeZtno

Dude, couldn't you find anything more lame?
You ran out of jokes about the gangsta' from the hood smoking crack with the hos?

You are the first one here to mention anything about ho and the "hood".

But no, I hardly couldn't find anything more lame than Obama himself.

If that's the case then you should get out of your house more.

You probably need it more than I do.

No I don't.

Of course you don't.