Why so few evangelicals in the military?

[phk]

What are the exact %'s for the top map? I actually want to run some stat tests myself.

Even though there are Black Evangelicals you likely need to have specific information separating the White HS graduation rate and the White obesity rate. Since it's Blacks that are clouding a lot of Southern states statistics. I'm mostly asking since I'v been to Camp Pendleton and it seems like the majority of Whites there are Southern.

[phk]

I ran a regression and correlation coefficient test on obesity and HS graduation rate.


. reg  ObesityRate HSGraduationRate

      Source |       SS       df       MS              Number of obs =      51
-------------+------------------------------           F(  1,    49) =    3.45
       Model |  .003157722     1  .003157722           Prob > F      =  0.0693
    Residual |  .044870791    49   .00091573           R-squared     =  0.0657
-------------+------------------------------           Adj R-squared =  0.0467
       Total |  .048028513    50   .00096057           Root MSE      =  .03026

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 ObesityRate |      Coef.   Std. Err.      t    P>|t|     [95% Conf. Interval]
-------------+----------------------------------------------------------------
HSGraduati~e |  -.1050717   .0565825    -1.86   0.069    -.2187785    .0086352
       _cons |    .346491   .0429637     8.06   0.000     .2601523    .4328298
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

. corr  ObesityRate HSGraduationRate
(obs=51)

             | Obesit~e HSGrad~e
-------------+------------------
 ObesityRate |   1.0000
HSGraduati~e |  -0.2564   1.0000

[phk]

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Except he never claimed that is was specifically the evangelicals who were dropping out of school and were obese.. just that they were concentrated in regions with high instances of those.

Evangelicals aren't an exact reflection of the areas that they are located in. Your numbers would be clouded a lot by people who aren't Evangelicals considering around 39 to 40 percent live in the South. While only 9 percent live in the Northeast.

In terms of Evangelicals a better way to do it would be to take the data if it were available as a weighted average.

(White_Graduation_Rate)*(%_of_Evangelicals_White) + (NonWhite_Graduation_Rate)*(%_of_Evangelicals_NotWhite)

as well as

(White_Obesity_Rate)*(%_of_Obesity_White) + (NonWhite_Obesity_Rate)*(%_of_Obesity_NotWhite)

According to http://www.anevangelicalmanifesto.com/media/docs/stats.pdf, we could probably go ahead and substitute in some numbers and get:

(White_Graduation_Rate)*(.81) + (NonWhite_Graduation_Rate)*(.19)
(White_Obesity_Rate)*(.81) + (NonWhite_Obesity_Rate)*(.19)

Than with your 50 or  51 obs you could easily run regressions or correlations.

[phk]

And still waiting for an even halfway decent answer to my question.

I actually take issue with this line in the article:

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Is that all they are counting?
Just people who are members of a denomination in the National Association of Evangelicals?

You will likely miss out on quite a few of them [Evangelicals].

[phk]

And still waiting for an even halfway decent answer to my question.

I actually take issue with this line in the article:

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Is that all they are counting?
Just people who are members of a denomination in the National Association of Evangelicals?

You will likely miss out on quite a few of them [Evangelicals].

Ok. Why so few of these folks?

Again is it really so few of these folks, considering the national average of Evangelicals is 8%? Along with considering Evangelicals who are in other denominations or non-denominational Christians? If I'm not mistaken our jmfcst attends a non-denominational church. There are some more liberalish Evangelicals such as the ELCA that BRTD talked about.

In terms of % of denomination that is Evangelical:
Assemblies of God - 33%
Non-Denominational Protestant - 29%
Pentecostal - 27%*
Baptist - 14%*
Church of Christ - 12%
Episcopalian - 1%
Mormon - 1%

I'm curious about the Methdodist and Lutheran %'s.

It's possible that the % adds up to the national 8% once we have 3% + the other 5% taken from the non *'ed in the pool.

Still the % of chaplains is more Evangelical than the country's 8%

[phk]

Southern Baptists, by themselves, are 5% of the nation. The article says they are 1% of the military. Even with all those other folks, you only have 3% of the military. They're pretty clearly underrepresented.

All those other folks are not necessarily 3% of the military.

For example 29% of non-denominational Protestants are Evangelical but that 3% doesn't count non-denominational Protestants, since their church wouldn't be a member of the NAE. It doesn't even mention Assemblies of God who are 33% Evangelical and not even counted!

Furthermore it wouldn't be necessarily unreasonable to assume that Evangelicals have higher fertility rates than non-Evangelicals which biases their % since less would be of adult age.

[phk]

Southern Baptists, by themselves, are 5% of the nation. The article says they are 1% of the military. Even with all those other folks, you only have 3% of the military. They're pretty clearly underrepresented.

All those other folks are not necessarily 3% of the military.

For example 29% of non-denominational Protestants are Evangelical but that 3% doesn't count non-denominational Protestants, since their church wouldn't be a member of the NAE. It doesn't even mention Assemblies of God who are 33% Evangelical and not even counted!

Furthermore it wouldn't be necessarily unreasonable to assume that Evangelicals have higher fertility rates than non-Evangelicals which biases their % since less would be of adult age.

I'll try this again. All Southern Baptists are unequivally evangelicals under every metric. They are five percent of the poulation. Even if all 3% of the military, who are evangelical, were Southern Batist, they would still be notably under represented. But there are more evangelicals who are not baptists. So the total undisputed evangelical population is higher than 5 percent. So, why are the undisputed evangelicals underrepresented?

What % were decline to state?