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« on: January 28, 2011, 05:58:25 pm »
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Anything come to mind? For me one of the most obvious would be marijuana. There's few things more annoying than 'drug culture' or smoking in general for me.
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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2011, 07:03:37 pm »
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You mean people like PETA that you want to beat the crap of or Julian Assange who might be a rapist?

Hmmmm... I guess people who passionately oppose gun control are people I agree with and think can be funny, but I think are ridiculous Dale Gribble-like stereotypes for the most part.

...and for the strangest reason, it might be harder to get laid by a pro-choice girl than a pro-life one. Which doesn't bode well for me.

...and I have noticed that I generally get along better with people who have value systems that I find unacceptable....though I have been working harder on preventing that. lol.
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2011, 09:10:41 pm »
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Crazy pro-life bombers. Also, Palin supporters, we agree on the issues but they have serious issues that push people away.
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2011, 09:30:17 pm »
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Gun control. Most gun owners annoy me and are part of a culture that I don't really understand even though I've lived in a bastion of it my whole life.

I'm a center-leftist/leftist stereotype so I have no issues with my side. I guess anti-zionists can be annoying and I'm somewhat of an anti-zionist.
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2011, 10:07:11 pm »
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Libertarians tend to be highly susceptible to every batsh**t conspiracy theory known to man, so probably that.
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2011, 10:27:08 pm »
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I'm not a big fan of pro-choicers of the militant feminist variety, who mostly tend to only spew extreme strawmen and do as much of a disservice for their side as people like Randall Terry do for the other side.
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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2011, 10:32:19 pm »
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Libertarians tend to be highly susceptible to every batsh**t conspiracy theory known to man, so probably that.
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Radical pro-lifers are second place.  I mean talk about a divisive issues jeez.  I am also embarrassed by some of the more radical anti-zionists who sound all out anti-semitic and somehow relate everything back to Jews Zionists controlling everything in the world.  Yeah.
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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2011, 10:38:09 pm »
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Abortion clinic-bombing pro-lifers is the easy first answer. I also dislike those who are better described as anti-choice rather than pro-life and take the stance for all the wrong reasons. Similarly, anyone who has a socially conservative stance on an issue only because of religious beliefs really irritates me.
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2011, 10:46:25 pm »
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Abortion clinic-bombing pro-lifers is the easy first answer. I also dislike those who are better described as anti-choice rather than pro-life and take the stance for all the wrong reasons.

I would have put that down but that's too obvious/safe.

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Similarly, anyone who has a socially conservative stance on an issue only because of religious beliefs really irritates me.
Same. Oddly probably my most socially conservative phase was when I was a firm atheist.
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2011, 01:28:03 am »
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Libertarians tend to be highly susceptible to every batsh**t conspiracy theory known to man, so probably that.
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Radical pro-lifers are second place.  I mean talk about a divisive issues jeez.  I am also embarrassed by some of the more radical anti-zionists who sound all out anti-semitic and somehow relate everything back to Jews Zionists controlling everything in the world.  Yeah.
Yes, yes and yes.

(which is why I wonder why so many "libertarians" pine for the days of Ziggy and Libtard who fit at least two of those to a T...they both LOVED the conspiracy and hated da Joos)
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2011, 01:32:02 am »
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I also dislike those who are better described as anti-choice pro-abortion rather than pro-life pro-choice and take the stance for all the wrong reasons.

This accurately sums up what I said above. So it seems like both sides on abortion hate many on their own side (not a surprise really.)
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2011, 02:22:56 am »
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Nanny statism by Labor is even worse than the Coalition were. Overall, I'd take 5 Gillards over 1 Howard...but I do wish governments of both stripes would treat Australian adults as adults.
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2011, 02:54:54 am »
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Drug legalization. Tends to attract stoner embarassments and makes people unfairly blur the line between people who support drug legalization and people who support (or engage in) drug use. Irritates me more than anything.
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2011, 03:06:34 am »
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Much like Wormy, I find myself incredibly annoyed by deep-end libertarians who believe whatever conspiracy theory the tabloids have plastered on the front page that particular day. Likewise, libertarians on the furthest end of the political matrix who call everyone who dares to disagree with them in the slightest a "fascist" can get hurled out of an airplane and land ass-first on a pine tree.
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2011, 10:13:54 am »
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I dislike hacks of any sort, particularly in France where there are a lot on both sides. On economic issues, there are a lot of people "on my side" who know nothing and don't give a sh*t about economy, an that's particularly saddening.
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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2011, 12:54:20 pm »
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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2011, 01:40:18 pm »
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Radical neocons who think its ok to invade countries under false pretexts (looking at you Cheney and Rumsfeld)
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« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2011, 01:45:18 pm »
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I also dislike those who are better described as anti-choice pro-abortion rather than pro-life pro-choice and take the stance for all the wrong reasons.

This accurately sums up what I said above. So it seems like both sides on abortion hate many on their own side (not a surprise really.)
Especially when pro-choicers get into arguments on why you are supposed to be pro-choice. Once I saw this argument between those who claimed that they were "pro-choice" because no one could prove that a fetus was a person and therefore it was just a way to make new people up to take away the liberty of people who in fact exist and those who were "pro-choice" because though they believed a fetus was a person, they didn't believe in forcing those beliefs on others. So, its really a debate on whether its a straight bioethical debate or constitutional debate.



On the other hand, "pro-lifers" the honest debate amongst them is that there are those who think that abortion is THE SAME as homicide and should be prosecuted as such and those who are "pro-life" who beleive that "killing babies" was irresponsible and that the state's interest in preventing or punishing abortion should be to perserve chasity and marriage by making it so that when people have sex, they would eventually have to stop having sex and raise a child instead....or else go to prision. So, basically  "pro-lifers" are torn on whether abortion is a violent crime or a drug/sex crime or both or neither.
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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2011, 03:45:35 pm »
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« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2011, 04:31:24 pm »
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« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2011, 05:58:19 am »
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There are issues on which I am in agreement with but also embarrassed by the other stances and beliefs of some Greens, Democrats, Libertarians, socialists, capitalists, secularists, feminists, unionists, pro-gun types, and drug legalization activists. I do not think there are people who are in full or nearly-full agreement with me across the board though. Among the ones who come the closest, my biggest beef tends to be how much disrespect they show for those across the isle.
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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2011, 11:52:52 am »
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A lot of death penalty opponents arguments about how only 'barbaric' societies still have the death penalty (because japan, south korea, etc. are medieval hell holes obviously) and implication that only bloodthirsty HP would want such a thing bother me.
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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2011, 02:29:15 pm »
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Abortion. I live in a Pro-Life city, and I am Pro-Life, and I really hate debating Pro-Choicers because most of them here don't try to debate  normally.
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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2011, 10:17:44 pm »
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A lot of death penalty opponents arguments about how only 'barbaric' societies still have the death penalty (because japan, south korea, etc. are medieval hell holes obviously) and implication that only bloodthirsty HP would want such a thing bother me.
It's not a bad argument....though trying to accuse dp (dp...hehe) proponents of having some sort of moral defect isn't the way to go. The point here is that the United States needs to be a leader, not a follower in the world.
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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2011, 10:19:21 pm »
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Abortion. I live in a Pro-Life city, and I am Pro-Life, and I really hate debating Pro-Choicers because most of them here don't try to debate  normally.

This is where you talk about people you agree with, but still can't get along with. For the longest time, most of my friends were Republicans and most Democrats I knew didn't like me. 
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