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Beefalow and the Consumer
Beef
Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: -2.77, S: -8.78

« on: November 24, 2004, 12:00:20 PM »

If Wisconsin counties were states, and had 2 Senators each and Congressmen allocated the same way US states did...



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Beefalow and the Consumer
Beef
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,123
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.77, S: -8.78

« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2004, 12:15:50 PM »

LOL! This is a nice bit of work. And so completely pointless. Smiley I love it. Honestly.

I like doing pointless things, especially when I'm killing time on a long weekend ;-).
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Beefalow and the Consumer
Beef
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,123
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.77, S: -8.78

« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2004, 12:23:35 PM »

When I saw the subject I started having palpitations! Nice work

Do you know if any GOP state would produce a similar Democratic victory?

Highly unlikely.  Bush tends to win lots of low-pop counties, and Kerry tends to win a few high-pop counties by very large margins.  Best candidates would be New Mexico and Colorado.  It could also happen in Southern states with lots of rural black counties like Arkansas, Mississippi, and South Carolina, but Bush won by way too much in 2004 in these states.

Clinton probably pulled it off in a few Southern states in 92 and 96.
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Beefalow and the Consumer
Beef
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,123
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.77, S: -8.78

« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2004, 12:40:44 PM »

That is quite interesting, and further prove why the electoral college SUCKS. Beef, do you plan on doing any other states?

Depends on how bored I get this weekend, and on how severe my triptophan nap is :-).  WI is the most interesting, since it was percentage-wise the closest state, and has a fairly large number of counties (72).  Also because it's my state...

Another interesting thing about this is that it would take more votes to swing the electoral vote to Kerry (about 9300) than it would have to swing the popular vote to Bush (about 6500).

I don't think it demonstrates that the Electoral College sucks.  On the contrary, it would have made all of the rampant vote fraud and foul play in Milwaukee absolutely meaningless.
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Beefalow and the Consumer
Beef
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,123
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.77, S: -8.78

« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2004, 02:04:09 PM »

Right.  We need to get Beef a girlfriend. 

Any volunteers? Anyone with a sister to send to WI?

I think, Beef is already married!? Smiley

Yes, I am.  The boredom is not a bad reflection upon my wife.  It's a bad reflection upon the rest of my family, whom I will be spending a great deal of time with...
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Beefalow and the Consumer
Beef
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,123
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.77, S: -8.78

« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2004, 02:07:08 PM »

FWIW, it would be unconstitutional for Wisconsin to apportion its electors in this way.  Within a state, all offices must be awarded in a way such that each person's vote counts equally, even though this blatantly doesn't apply on the national level.

But WI could pull a ME/NE and apportion its electors by CD.  This also would nullify the shady goings-on in Milwaukee.  Although I suspect all of the hooligans would simply drive down to Racine to try and influence CD-1.
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Beefalow and the Consumer
Beef
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,123
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.77, S: -8.78

« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2004, 02:51:24 PM »

Right.  We need to get Beef a girlfriend. 

Any volunteers? Anyone with a sister to send to WI?

I think, Beef is already married!? Smiley

Yes, I am.  The boredom is not a bad reflection upon my wife.  It's a bad reflection upon the rest of my family, whom I will be spending a great deal of time with...

Right, we need to get Beef a better family.

Any volunteer?  Anyone with a crazy and amusing uncle?

They'd just get irritated at my constant sneaking off to make hypothetical electoral vote maps and post to AF.
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Beefalow and the Consumer
Beef
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,123
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.77, S: -8.78

« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2004, 03:04:10 PM »

That is quite interesting, and further prove why the electoral college SUCKS. Beef, do you plan on doing any other states?

Depends on how bored I get this weekend, and on how severe my triptophan nap is :-).  WI is the most interesting, since it was percentage-wise the closest state, and has a fairly large number of counties (72).  Also because it's my state...

Another interesting thing about this is that it would take more votes to swing the electoral vote to Kerry (about 9300) than it would have to swing the popular vote to Bush (about 6500).

I don't think it demonstrates that the Electoral College sucks.  On the contrary, it would have made all of the rampant vote fraud and foul play in Milwaukee absolutely meaningless.

Is there proof of fraud in Milwaukee? If so, why is no one doing anything about it?

Because it doesn't change the outcome of the election.  And I am very glad for that.  Had Kerry won Ohio, we'd have a huge mess here.  It's one of the reasons Kerry didn't start challenging the count in OH.  Bush would have gone after WI (and PA), and it would have gotten real, real ugly.

There was probably enough funny business going on on the GOP side to give Ohio to Kerry.  Both sides do this.  But the Democrats in Milwaukee were especially bad this time around.
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