What's your position on gay divorce?

[Person Man]

I know a gay couple that has domestic violence problems, actually. I call it Gaymestic Violence.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Legal-Almost all divorce is caused by one or both half being a selfish punk, and gays have the right to be selfish punks.

[Mechaman]

Yes, they have the right to be as miserable as anyone else who is married.

[exopolitician]

Who cares, it's none of anyones business. That includes gay marriage as well.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

No gay marriage = No gay divorce. Btw Prop 8 from California is totally constuitional. I just think that divorce is wrong in all cases (except adultry abuse or abandonment).

[Lief 🗽]

No gay marriage = No gay divorce. Btw Prop 8 from California is totally constuitional. I just think that divorce is wrong in all cases (except adultry abuse or abandonment).

The 19th century is on the phone for you.

[Middle-aged Europe]

No gay marriage = No gay divorce. Btw Prop 8 from California is totally constuitional. I just think that divorce is wrong in all cases (except adultry abuse or abandonment).

Reality doesn't work that way.

[Alcon]

I've always thought the adultery exception was curious.  Your partner can make you miserable and insecure, but it's only a divorceable matter if they make you miserable and insecure by sleeping with someone else.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

No gay marriage = No gay divorce. Btw Prop 8 from California is totally constuitional. I just think that divorce is wrong in all cases (except adultry abuse or abandonment).

Reality doesn't work that way.

You clearly haven't been paying attention to any of his posts... reality... clearly isn't his thing.

[angus]

Gaymestic Violence.

Dude, that is so lame.

But anyway, I think marriage should be forever.  When I got married I vowed to my wife and to the state of Nevada and to Clark County and to the officiant of the Aladdin Casino that we'd stay married till death.  I don't have much respect for divorce, and I suspect that those that do divorce probably didn't put quite as much thought into getting married to the people they married as they should have in the first place.  Such people probably got married for the wrong reasons.  

That said, I voted legal.  If people want to divorce they should certainly have the option.  I guess the right to break a marriage contract is kind of like the intrinsic right to act like an asshole.  Just because it's morally reprehensible doesn't mean it should be illegal.  And making two assholes stay together would probably have the effect of making them even more miserable people, to the detriment of all of society.  

[exopolitician]

Gaymestic Violence.

Dude, that is so lame.  

I will admit, I got a chuckle out of that.

[RI]

I think that divorce is generally wrong and that we should take steps against it, but as long as there is straight divorce and gay marriage exists, obviously gay divorce has to exist too.

[Torie]

Divorce, no fault divorce, should be a Constitutional right I think.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

No gay marriage = No gay divorce. Btw Prop 8 from California is totally constuitional. I just think that divorce is wrong in all cases (except adultry abuse or abandonment).

The 19th century is on the phone for you.

I'm in the right century.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

No gay marriage = No gay divorce. Btw Prop 8 from California is totally c
onstuitional. I just think that divorce is wrong in all cases (except adultry abuse or abandonment).

Reality doesn't work that way.

You clearly haven't been paying attention to any of his posts... reality... clearly isn't his thing.

I am speaking as someone who had to watch his family destroyed on basis of a no fault divorce. My parents divorced for no reason when I was 3. There are plenty of statistics that prove that children are best raised in a 2 parent (father/mother) home.

[RI]

No gay marriage = No gay divorce. Btw Prop 8 from California is totally c
onstuitional. I just think that divorce is wrong in all cases (except adultry abuse or abandonment).

Reality doesn't work that way.

You clearly haven't been paying attention to any of his posts... reality... clearly isn't his thing.

I am speaking as someone who had to watch his family destroyed on basis of a no fault divorce. My parents divorced for no reason when I was 3. There are plenty of statistics that prove that children are best raised in a 2 parent (father/mother) home.

I know where you're coming from, JCL. My parents divorced when I was six. My mom didn't even try to save it. She just decided to end it one day and my dad couldn't do anything about it. I can't imagine how someone could do that to their spouse. I've always wished I had a normal family, with parents who actually tried to get along, that actually worked to better our family instead of giving up on it. I'll never know that though, and there is some part of me that will never heal from it.

[Verily]

No gay marriage = No gay divorce. Btw Prop 8 from California is totally c
onstuitional. I just think that divorce is wrong in all cases (except adultry abuse or abandonment).

Reality doesn't work that way.

You clearly haven't been paying attention to any of his posts... reality... clearly isn't his thing.

I am speaking as someone who had to watch his family destroyed on basis of a no fault divorce. My parents divorced for no reason when I was 3.

Yeah, someone slept with their coworker. They just haven't told you yet.

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Not really.

[Хahar 🤔]

No gay marriage = No gay divorce. Btw Prop 8 from California is totally c
onstuitional. I just think that divorce is wrong in all cases (except adultry abuse or abandonment).

Reality doesn't work that way.

You clearly haven't been paying attention to any of his posts... reality... clearly isn't his thing.

I am speaking as someone who had to watch his family destroyed on basis of a no fault divorce. My parents divorced for no reason when I was 3. There are plenty of statistics that prove that children are best raised in a 2 parent (father/mother) home.

I'll take a wild guess that things wouldn't have been better had they been forced to remain married despite their wishes.

[RI]

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Not really.

I bet you almost every one of those children wish they had two parents, though. There are other things that you really can't quantify statistically here too. I don't mean to say that single parents can't do incredible jobs raising their children, but there will always be something missing, from both their family and themselves. They will feel it.

No gay marriage = No gay divorce. Btw Prop 8 from California is totally c
onstuitional. I just think that divorce is wrong in all cases (except adultry abuse or abandonment).

Reality doesn't work that way.

You clearly haven't been paying attention to any of his posts... reality... clearly isn't his thing.

I am speaking as someone who had to watch his family destroyed on basis of a no fault divorce. My parents divorced for no reason when I was 3. There are plenty of statistics that prove that children are best raised in a 2 parent (father/mother) home.

I'll take a wild guess that things wouldn't have been better had they been forced to remain married despite their wishes.

It's impossible to say, I suppose, but their failure here is either one of putting themselves ahead of the welfare of their family, not meaning the promise that they declared, or of not descerning enough as to whether they were marrying the right person. If you are committed, there is no problem in marriage that you can not overcome. If you're not committed, you shouldn't have gotten married in the first place.

[Verily]

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Not really.

I bet you almost every one of those children wish they had two parents, though. There are other things that you really can't quantify statistically here too. I don't mean to say that single parents can't do incredible jobs raising their children, but there will always be something missing, from both their family and themselves. They will feel it.

Oh, two parent, probably. Mostly due to the time pressures--I would not think a child raised by a single parent who is independently wealthy and therefore does not work or else has a job that pays well but requires little time commitment (some sort of tech job, maybe?) would be just as good as two parents. Most single parents would not be. I was mostly pointing out the problem with the mother/father qualification. But even with single parents, it's certainly not a direct function of the lack of a second parent, more an indirect result of loss of attention as well as other troubles of single adults (financial insecurity, perhaps acrimony from a divorce) that need not be present in all cases of single parents.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I was raised by a single-parent, though through death, not divorce.

But pretty much every person I know who has divorced parents is fine... apart from the ones who still think like children.

I think it's better to have parents that are happy, rather than being forced to stay together, although they may hate one another.

People change over time... and yes, there are indeed problems that cannot be overcome. Marriage doesn't alter the fabric of time or reality.

That's part of the reason I find the whole 'no sex before marriage' thing so counter-productive. Until you go out there and live... how the hell are you going to know who you are? I know 'hyper-Christians' who got married at 21... they're now 27/28... they've developed, and are radically different people than they were 6/7 years ago... and they're terribly dissatisfied and unhappy.

I think marriage is important and special... but it's not a prison.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Forcing people to remain married against their will isn't necessarily producing better spouses or parents. I'd say the possibility of divorce actually makes marriage all the more meaningful (spouses remain together because they make a conscious decision to do so and not just because "the law" tells them to do so).

[afleitch]

Of course they should be legal. Curiously statistics show that in some countries the rates of civil partnership 'dissolution' is lower the the rate of divorce.

Figures for Scotland

2008. For every 1 marriage there were 0.4 divorces
2009. For every 1 marriage there were 0.37 divorces

2008. For every 1 civil partnership there were 0.03 dissolutions
2009. For every 1 civil partnership there were 0.05 dissolutions

[Brittain33]

I am speaking as someone who had to watch his family destroyed on basis of a no fault divorce. My parents divorced for no reason when I was 3. There are plenty of statistics that prove that children are best raised in a 2 parent (father/mother) home.

I see two separate issues here. It's better for kids to have two parents (can be same sex or opposite sex, doesn't matter, the research says) than one for financial reasons if no other, and probably also for other reasons. But setting that aside, sometimes people really shouldn't stay married to each other and it's worse to pretend they should. Down that road you end up with domestic violence and emotional breakdowns and that's not great for kids, either. My parents divorced when I was 14, it was a big problem for me to deal with at the time, but on the other hand they clearly should not have stayed married to each other and I ended up with 4 parents instead of 2, and that's even better.

[Stranger in a strange land]

No gay marriage = No gay divorce. Btw Prop 8 from California is totally c
onstuitional. I just think that divorce is wrong in all cases (except adultry abuse or abandonment).

Reality doesn't work that way.

You clearly haven't been paying attention to any of his posts... reality... clearly isn't his thing.

I am speaking as someone who had to watch his family destroyed on basis of a no fault divorce. My parents divorced for no reason when I was 3. There are plenty of statistics that prove that children are best raised in a 2 parent (father/mother) home.

I'll take a wild guess that things wouldn't have been better had they been forced to remain married despite their wishes.

Every divorce is a tragedy, but usually, the alternative is much worse: forcing people who don't love each other to remain married produces broken homes, and it's better for a child to be from a broken home than in a broken home. And there's always a reason for a divorce: it's not always a good reason, but marriages don't just fall apart out of the blue.