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« on: February 03, 2011, 01:16:23 PM »
« edited: February 03, 2011, 03:53:31 PM by pbrower2a »

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_SC_02021210.pdf

Romney and Huckabee do about equally well against President Obama in South Carolina. Gingrich, to my surprise, loses here; Palin shows potential for a landslide victory... nationally, that is, for President Obama. I don't have a map for Favorite Sons; as I recall, Bachmann, Christie, and Santorum do catastrophically badly against President Obama -- but DeMint and Thune do fine in their own states. (Indiana, anyone?)    


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Obama vs. Huckabee



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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2011, 01:28:36 PM »

Seeing the results for South Carolina, Georgia might be interesting...
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2011, 01:38:02 PM »

Interesting that DeMint only leads by 2 against Obama, not a great home state advantage there at all.
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2011, 01:39:37 PM »

Hah! I'm not an idiot then. Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2011, 01:47:21 PM »


No, you aren't. I'm =)

but really, I thought Huckabee would be leading by 9 or 10 points, and obviously doing better than romney. this is surprising to me. and as mr. gingrich is from the neighbor state, I thought he was at least, leading obama, also by a better amount than romney.
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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2011, 02:30:49 PM »

An Alvin Greene candidacy will split the black vote and Sister Sarah will carry the state, you all naysayers!
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2011, 02:32:50 PM »

Yeah, I already knew that Palin would trail here too.

BTW:

pbrower, you made a mistake in the map, Huckabee is not @ 50% - you have to use "4" in the map.
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2011, 02:33:00 PM »

While Romney has not been strong in the South for primaries, I expect more polls like this one to disprove the theory that the GOP will lose the South if Romney is the nominee. When he's actually performing better than two southerners there, that has to mean something.
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2011, 03:54:12 PM »

Yeah, I already knew that Palin would trail here too.

BTW:

pbrower, you made a mistake in the map, Huckabee is not @ 50% - you have to use "4" in the map.

Tpyo corrected.
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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2011, 09:27:50 PM »

While Romney has not been strong in the South for primaries, I expect more polls like this one to disprove the theory that the GOP will lose the South if Romney is the nominee. When he's actually performing better than two southerners there, that has to mean something.

Yep, Obama would solve about 85% of Romney's Southern problem in a general election. And Romney probably does better in some of the Coastal, less evan areas then the Southern candidates, while at the same time losing very few of the evans who are primarily concerned about getting Obama gone. Of course 1 point is stastically hard to base anything of off. Need to see more polling like this to confirm such a theory.


Seeing the results for South Carolina, Georgia might be interesting...

Are they going to do GA soon? I would be interested in seeing it as well.

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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2011, 02:23:48 AM »

Palin is probably trailing by double digits in GA. The other three will probably be in statistical dead heats with Obama.
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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2011, 03:23:04 AM »

Palin is probably trailing by double digits in GA. The other three will probably be in statistical dead heats with Obama.

     That seems highly unlikely given that Romney & Huckabee posted decent leads in Arizona, which is a more marginal state than Georgia.
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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2011, 04:03:57 AM »

Romney and Huckabee do alike in a lot of places - probably just not offensive enough to do far below Generic Republican?
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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2011, 08:44:56 AM »

Palin is probably trailing by double digits in GA. The other three will probably be in statistical dead heats with Obama.

     That seems highly unlikely given that Romney & Huckabee posted decent leads in Arizona, which is a more marginal state than Georgia.

Huckabee's lead was actually within the margin of error in Arizona. They'll probably be technically leading in GA but only by a few points.
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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2011, 04:23:02 PM »

I wonder how Gingrich will do in his home state.
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« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2011, 04:41:08 PM »

Palin is probably trailing by double digits in GA. The other three will probably be in statistical dead heats with Obama.

     That seems highly unlikely given that Romney & Huckabee posted decent leads in Arizona, which is a more marginal state than Georgia.

Huckabee's lead was actually within the margin of error in Arizona. They'll probably be technically leading in GA but only by a few points.

     Leading by 4% in a poll with a 4% margin of error translates to an 85%+ chance of actually being in the lead, assuming the poll was done right. The equation at the bottom of this page bears that out. Referring to that as a statistical dead heat strikes me as slightly reductionist.
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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2011, 06:03:36 PM »

Palin is probably trailing by double digits in GA. The other three will probably be in statistical dead heats with Obama.

     That seems highly unlikely given that Romney & Huckabee posted decent leads in Arizona, which is a more marginal state than Georgia.

Huckabee's lead was actually within the margin of error in Arizona. They'll probably be technically leading in GA but only by a few points.

     Leading by 4% in a poll with a 4% margin of error translates to an 85%+ chance of actually being in the lead, assuming the poll was done right. The equation at the bottom of this page bears that out. Referring to that as a statistical dead heat strikes me as slightly reductionist.

The point still stands.
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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2011, 06:14:38 PM »

It's out:  http://race42012.com/2011/02/04/poll-watch-georgia-2020-insight-polling/
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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2011, 06:18:30 PM »

The poll shows Obama beating Palin by 4, loosing to Gingrich by 2%, down 5% against Huckabee, and trailing Romney by 6%.
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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2011, 07:07:23 PM »

Romney better once again, by 1 point. Damn. This is getting freaky. Wink
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« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2011, 08:49:28 PM »

The poll shows Obama beating Palin by 4, loosing to Gingrich by 2%, down 5% against Huckabee, and trailing Romney by 6%.

Hmm... Palin is doing better than I would have expected.

That's terrible for Gingrich.
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« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2011, 08:52:54 PM »

Who's "Insight Polling" though? That isn't PPP.
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« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2011, 09:05:19 PM »

Some other stuff:

Primary numbers are interesting.

Huckabee 19%
Gingrich 18%
Not certain 16%
Cain 14% (lol wut... I know he's from GA but seriously?)
Romney 14%
Palin 11% (safe to say she's imploding yet?)
Pawlenty 3%
Some other candidate 3%
Barbour 2%
Daniels 1%

General election match-ups when registered voters are looked at without leaners:

Obama +6 over Palin
Romney +6 over Obama
Huckabee +3 over Obama
Obama +1 over Gingrich

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B_KEK8-LWmzhOGM5OTQzNDMtNjdjZC00OWZlLThlMTgtZDFjM2JjN2Q2OWM1&hl=en

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« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2011, 01:24:08 AM »

Cool. SC isn't as hopeless as I thought we were! Tongue
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« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2011, 12:20:44 AM »

Man, DeMint only beats Barry by 2? Should have ran a real candidate against him last year. :/
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