Who would play an important role in a Democratic Egypt?

[Insula Dei]

Who do you think would be influential in a potential post-Mubarak Egypt?

[Capitan Zapp Brannigan]

Muslim Brotherhood and the Army would be the two most important groups.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

The NDP would, much as the PRI still does in Mexico and various Communist parties do in Eastern Europe.  Of course that does leave a wide variety of possible levels of importance.

[Stranger in a strange land]

The Army is the most powerful institution in Egypt, and it controls a huge portion of the economy. The NDP will continue to exist in some form, though at this point it probably won't be the dominant party. The Muslim Brotherhood will have a major role as well, though their appeal is too limited for them to form a government, and I doubt the military would allow a Muslim Brotherhood takeover.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

the Koran

[GMantis]

Muslim Brotherhood and the Army would be the two most important groups.

[Хahar 🤔]

The NDP would, much as the PRI still does in Mexico and various Communist parties do in Eastern Europe.  Of course that does leave a wide variety of possible levels of importance.

That's not necessarily true. Dictators' parties are often (I would even say usually) scrapped altogether.

[Lief 🗽]

Hopefully some leftist group. Or else the inevitable answer is Islamists. The United States will be doing their damndest to make sure it's either an anti-democratic army regime or some bland neo-liberal puppet.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Egyptians, hopefully.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

the Koran

I'm surprised that you think the Qur'an is compatible with democracy.

[Hash]

The NDP would, much as the PRI still does in Mexico and various Communist parties do in Eastern Europe.  Of course that does leave a wide variety of possible levels of importance.

That's not necessarily true. Dictators' parties are often (I would even say usually) scrapped altogether.

Furthermore, the NDP state in Egypt is a world apart from the PRI state in Mexico. The former is far more personalist.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

the Koran

I'm surprised that you think the Qur'an is compatible with democracy.

with the majority of Egyptians wanting to walk like a Sharia Law abiding Muslim, why wouldn't it?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

the Koran

I'm surprised that you think the Qur'an is compatible with democracy.

I think that's his clumsy point...

The army will have it's most important role in stabilsing Egypt.

The MB cannot win an election on it's own, El-Baradei is extremely important, but he needs to maintain as apolitical a stance as possible.

Egypt doesn't really have a significant religious divide, it's a Sunni/Sufi majority. There is a strong although small Coptic Christian community, who have been important to Egypt for a long time.

Egypt is not Iraq, nor is it Iran.

[opebo]

Egypt is not Iraq, nor is it Iran.

I suppose the point is that is about to become more like those, or Saudi Arabia, in terms of the strict Shari law - women imprisoned in houses, wearing full black robes in the street, being beaten and murdered more than currently.

[Insula Dei]

a)The Muslim Brotherhood isn't the Taliban.
b)The MB isn't delusional about its potential
c)Every noise the MB has made so far during the unrest is strongly pro-democratic
d)Someone like Opebo playing 'doom prophet' on women's right is sort of ironic.

[opebo]

d)Someone like Opebo playing 'doom prophet' on women's right is sort of ironic.

That's just silly prudery.  All patrons of prostitution like women to be very free.  Our dream world would be one where women would feel no social stigma or legal difficulty in pursuing our favorite profession.

[Gustaf]

d)Someone like Opebo playing 'doom prophet' on women's right is sort of ironic.

That's just silly prudery.  All patrons of prostitution like women to be very free.  Our dream world would be one where women would feel no social stigma or legal difficulty in pursuing our favorite profession.

But not one where there are other choices available to them, of course. And why would you care about the social stigma on the women? The important thing is obviously that, like it is in most patriarchal societies, there is no stigma on the men.

People who pretend that they care about the prostitutes not being shunned by society tend to mean that, rather than caring about what happens to the women after they finish with them.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

This thread would be more accurately titled "Egyptian organizations that I have heard of".

[Tetro Kornbluth]

I will add that I would hardly qualify as expert about Egypt (actually I know very little about the place beyond the bare historical essentials) but at no point I think in my whole life (except perhaps during the build up to Iraq?) have I read some patent bollocks written about a country by people who clearly know less than I but disguise their lack of knowledge through the medium of obvious agenda (oooohh... The Muslim Brotherhood.... scary, scary).

Oh, and Sayyid Qutb is the new 1984. The thing everyone mentions to show how much ´they know´ about Islamic fundamentalism. I blame Adam Curtis.

[Insula Dei]

This thread would be more accurately titled "Egyptian organizations that I have heard of".

Probably.

Is this mainly targeted at me or at the 'Muslim Brotherhood Sharia' people?

[Tetro Kornbluth]

This thread would be more accurately titled "Egyptian organizations that I have heard of".

Probably.

Is this mainly targeted at me or at the 'Muslim Brotherhood Sharia' people?

At you personally? No.

Btw, I wouldn´t spare criticism of the ´liberals´ in this either. Just that "OMG SHARIA" people annoy me far more and have far more political influence.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I will add that I would hardly qualify as expert about Egypt (actually I know very little about the place beyond the bare historical essentials) but at no point I think in my whole life (except perhaps during the build up to Iraq?) have I read some patent bollocks written about a country by people who clearly know less than I but disguise their lack of knowledge through the medium of obvious agenda (oooohh... The Muslim Brotherhood.... scary, scary).

Particularly funny as all most people know about Egypt is basically the stuff they learned at school/on the telly about pyramids, pharaohs and so on, plus the fact that it's a tourist destination, is Muslim... and some vague recollection about Nasser and the Suez Canal. Maybe.

I cite the sheer number of comment pieces that have gone on and on and on about Mubarak being a 'pharaoh' as evidence for this snarky sneering.

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lol, quite.

[Gustaf]

I will add that I would hardly qualify as expert about Egypt (actually I know very little about the place beyond the bare historical essentials) but at no point I think in my whole life (except perhaps during the build up to Iraq?) have I read some patent bollocks written about a country by people who clearly know less than I but disguise their lack of knowledge through the medium of obvious agenda (oooohh... The Muslim Brotherhood.... scary, scary).

Oh, and Sayyid Qutb is the new 1984. The thing everyone mentions to show how much ´they know´ about Islamic fundamentalism. I blame Adam Curtis.

No, that's just Sarah Palin. Everyone else is actually rather knowledgeable.

[opebo]

But not one where there are other choices available to them, of course. And why would you care about the social stigma on the women?

Gustaf, it is precisely the stigma and related legal punishment that reduce participation in this needed, highly paid, and relatively easy avocation, not 'other choices'.