Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
August 01, 2015, 07:16:02 pm
HomePredMockPollEVCalcAFEWIKIHelpLogin Register
News: Be sure to enable your "Ultimate Profile" for even more goodies on your profile page!

+  Atlas Forum
|-+  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion
| |-+  Presidential Election Process (Moderator: muon2)
| | |-+  Another Ballot inititative to change CA EV allocation
« previous next »
Pages: [1] Print
Author Topic: Another Ballot inititative to change CA EV allocation  (Read 2159 times)
zorkpolitics
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 1048
United States


View Profile
« on: February 06, 2011, 11:32:03 am »
Ignore

Its back.....
An Electoral College Reform Act ballot initiative has been approved for circulation in California.
Once again it would allocate CA EV by Congressional District.
The circulation deadline is July 5, 2011. 504,760 signatures must be submitted by that date to election officials if the measure is to qualify for the state's February 4, 2012 ballot as an initiated state statute.
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Electoral_college_votes_measure_approved_for_circulation

Interesting target election:  The Presidential Primary, with Obama having no opposition, Democratic turnout might be light while Republican turnout in the competitive Super Tuesday primary could be huge, possibly pushing the initiative to pass...

This obviously would change CA from 55 solid Democratic EV to possibly a 36D -19R (CA has 19 Republican Congressman).  With 19 EV from California, a GOP candidate could easily lose the Popular vote nationwide by as much as 3%, but still win back the 4 closest states from 2008: Ohio, Florida, Indiana, North Carolina for a 273 EV win.
Logged

"Scientists are treacherous allies on committees, for they are apt to change their minds in response to arguments" C.M. Bowra
Franzl
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 22410
Germany


View Profile
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2011, 11:55:53 am »
Ignore

As long as there's no national consensus, this type of thing will never be anything but politically motivated.
Logged
zorkpolitics
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 1048
United States


View Profile
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2011, 12:12:13 pm »
Ignore

I agree it is politically motivated.
A similar politically motivated change was attempted by the then Democratically controlled legislature in CO,  in 2006 the Democrats tried to change to Congressional allotment so as to take votes away from a GOP victor, a bit ironic because in 2008 Obama carried CO and he would have lost a few EV.
Logged

"Scientists are treacherous allies on committees, for they are apt to change their minds in response to arguments" C.M. Bowra
muon2
Moderator
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 9807


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2011, 06:28:12 pm »

It may be politically motivated, and certainly has political consequences, but in one way this is an improvement on previous efforts. I've always been concerned about CD-based EV allocation because of the possibility of gerrymandered districts having a double impact on both congress and the presidency. However, with the new CA redistricting commission that concern of mine is alleviated.
Logged

I'm on my road trip to the Pac NW. Red is an overnight stay; blue is a point of interest; cyan is a stop; green is just a drive through.

bgwah
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 13861
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.03, S: -6.96

View Profile
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2011, 08:37:33 pm »
Ignore

Trying to schedule such an important vote during a primary when a lot of people won't be voting is extremely disgusting.
Logged

Stranger in a strange land
strangeland
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 6544
United States


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2011, 05:20:26 pm »
Ignore

They tried this last cycle and failed to get the requisite number of signatures to get it on the ballot. However, even if it does get on the ballot, mobilizing enough democrats to defeat it shuoldn't be too hard in a 60% Obama state. Also, the CA Republican primary is open to independents, though only as a "beauty contest:" only the votes of registered Republicans count towards allocating delegates.
Logged

Αλληλεγγύη
Antonio V
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 34486
France


Political Matrix
E: -6.45, S: -4.87


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2011, 07:12:18 am »
Ignore

Of course Republicans oppose Electoral College reform unless they are done only in democratic States.
Logged

RIP Greece. RIP European Federalism.



"It's easy to confuse what is with what ought to be, especially when what is has worked out in your favor."

Tyrion Lannister, Game of Thrones, ep. 5x09
minionofmidas - supplemental forum account
Lewis Trondheim
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 58767
India


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2011, 04:50:12 pm »
Ignore

The Colorado referendum was on pr. Unless there were two different proposals in Colorado.
Logged

If I'm shown as having been active here recently it's either because I've been using the gallery, because I've been using the search engine looking up something from way back, or because I've been reading the most excellent UK by-elections thread again.
Pages: [1] Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Logout

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines