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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2011, 12:24:18 pm »
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Good news. He's one of the worst.
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« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2011, 12:24:56 pm »
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Seriously though, it's going to be Flake.
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« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2011, 12:31:24 pm »
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Arpaio for Senate!

Seriously though, it's going to be Flake.

Arizona is a badass state. They are never going to send a Flake to the Senate!
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« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2011, 12:48:02 pm »
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I wonder if Gabrielle Giffords would do it if she's recovered enough down the road. She'd certainly be unstoppable now.

Democrats always try to pull sentimental stunts like that (widows, disabled people, victims of violence), so yeah she will be recruited as long as she has a pulse. And voters are often dumb enough to base their vote on pathos, but "unstoppable" is stretching it.

It's more than stretching it. It's pretty much pure fiction. Giffords has a leftist voting record.
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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2011, 12:53:19 pm »
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I wonder if Gabrielle Giffords would do it if she's recovered enough down the road. She'd certainly be unstoppable now.

Democrats always try to pull sentimental stunts like that (widows, disabled people, victims of violence), so yeah she will be recruited as long as she has a pulse. And voters are often dumb enough to base their vote on pathos, but "unstoppable" is stretching it.

It's more than stretching it. It's pretty much pure fiction. Giffords has a leftist voting record.
I agree that Giffords has been a solid vote for the Dems. It's kind of like Casey in PA in that way. Their rhetoric differs from how they vote sometimes, and makes them be seen as moderates.

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« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2011, 01:05:15 pm »
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Flake will be tough to beat for the nomination.  And tough in the general too - not impossible (like Texas), but tough.
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« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2011, 01:40:12 pm »

I wonder if Gabrielle Giffords would do it if she's recovered enough down the road. She'd certainly be unstoppable now.

Democrats always try to pull sentimental stunts like that (widows, disabled people, victims of violence),

I can think of at least two Republican widows in Congress (Emerson, Bono Mack) right now, and the one Democratic widow which seemed to get Republicans the angriest, Jean Carnahan, happened because there was like 10 days left before Election Day and no good alternative. Saying "Democrats always try to do that" is as fair as "Republican in a sex scandal? shocking!" about Chris Lee. I think singling out disabled people as candidates as a sentimentality ploy is particularly unfair to people who already struggle to be treated as equals--James Langevin would be surprised to learn that he has a career in Congress because Democrats were doing him a favor or playing a trick.
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« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2011, 01:44:49 pm »
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Dangit!! He's a good, sensible Republican.  It'll be sad to see the Senate without the junior senator from Arizona.
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« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2011, 01:51:13 pm »
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Is it me, or do Seante retirements tend to happen in pairs?

Last yeasr we had Dodd and Dorgan annouce within days of eachother. Then it was Conrad and Lieberman, now Webb and Kyl.
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« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2011, 02:21:09 pm »
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Obama isn't gonna win Arizona and the Democrat wont win the senate race then, safe GOP hold.
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« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2011, 02:25:35 pm »
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Why? I don't understand his decision.
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« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2011, 02:29:15 pm »
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Dangit!! He's a good, sensible Republican. 

No, he's not.  He's an obstructionist who obstructs for the hell of it.  I'm glad to see him go.
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« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2011, 03:23:07 pm »
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To copy the GOP trolls, D+1.

In all seriousness, this is actually a serious pickup opportunity for the Dems.
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« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2011, 03:27:39 pm »
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To copy the GOP trolls, D+1.

In all seriousness, this is actually a serious pickup opportunity for the Dems.

Goddard seems to be their only semi-decent candidate. Well, that can actually run(seriously, let's be honest, Giffords probably isn't going to be physically capable).
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« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2011, 03:40:03 pm »
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« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2011, 03:49:05 pm »
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Not surprising I guess.
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« Reply #41 on: February 10, 2011, 03:57:58 pm »
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To copy the GOP trolls, D+1.

In all seriousness, this is actually a serious pickup opportunity for the Dems.

Goddard seems to be their only semi-decent candidate. Well, that can actually run(seriously, let's be honest, Giffords probably isn't going to be physically capable).
Probably, but unless the national mood is very pro-Democrat (highly unlikely it goes that far), Flake would easily defeat him. If Jan Brewer can beat him by 12 points, Flake shouldn't have a problem.
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« Reply #42 on: February 10, 2011, 04:32:02 pm »
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I'll be sad to see him go.  I've always liked him, so hopefully he stays in politics.
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« Reply #43 on: February 10, 2011, 04:37:59 pm »
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Honestly, given the other possibilities (Shadegg, Hayworth, Quayle, etc) Flake really doesn't seem half bad at all (although I'd obviously prefer Goddard).
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« Reply #44 on: February 10, 2011, 06:35:17 pm »
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How about the guy who ran against Kyl in 2006, Jim Pederson, I think is his name? He kept Kyl in the single digits, granted it was a good environment for Democrats. Think he'll be up for another run?
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« Reply #45 on: February 10, 2011, 06:50:27 pm »
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Dangit!! He's a good, sensible Republican. 

No, he's not.  He's an obstructionist who obstructs for the hell of it.  I'm glad to see him go.

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« Reply #46 on: February 10, 2011, 07:33:21 pm »
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I think Giffords would have been a strong candidate, but (obviously) I think she won't be able to run this time.

I think it's going to be Jeff Flake.
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« Reply #47 on: February 10, 2011, 07:41:16 pm »
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Are there any hispanic candidates Republicans could run?
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« Reply #48 on: February 10, 2011, 08:40:03 pm »
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Kurt Warner's name is being floated
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« Reply #49 on: February 10, 2011, 08:42:51 pm »
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Kurt Warner's name is being floated

I would definitely support him.
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