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Question: Do you want the United Kingdom to adopt the 'alternative vote' system instead of the current 'first past the post' system for electing Members of Parliament to the House of Commons?
Yes   -30 (69.8%)
No   -13 (30.2%)
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« Reply #325 on: May 03, 2011, 02:33:24 pm »
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ComRes poll released at 10pm will show No leading with 66% of the vote.
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« Reply #326 on: May 03, 2011, 02:34:29 pm »
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ComRes poll released at 10pm will show No leading with 66% of the vote.

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« Reply #327 on: May 03, 2011, 02:37:08 pm »
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ComRes poll released at 10pm will show No leading with 66% of the vote.

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« Reply #328 on: May 03, 2011, 02:40:42 pm »
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Well yeah, seems like NoToAV read the British people's mental age right. Tongue
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« Reply #329 on: May 03, 2011, 02:41:54 pm »
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So YesToAV is now on par with Michael Howard....
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« Reply #330 on: May 03, 2011, 02:46:00 pm »
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YesToAV seem to have a very "if you support No, you're uneducated" tone. Very much a turn off for people.
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« Reply #331 on: May 03, 2011, 02:57:10 pm »
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YesToAV seem to have a very "if you support No, you're uneducated" tone. Very much a turn off for people.

Isn't one of the No campaign's key arguments that AV is "complicated"?  I guess they are relying on people being uneducated if that's the case.
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« Reply #332 on: May 03, 2011, 03:11:43 pm »
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YesToAV seem to have a very "if you support No, you're uneducated" tone. Very much a turn off for people.

Isn't one of the No campaign's key arguments that AV is "complicated"?  I guess they are relying on people being uneducated if that's the case.
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« Reply #333 on: May 03, 2011, 04:42:09 pm »
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Talk about an enthusiasm gap..

I'll have to stop banging on about Clegg's tactical nouse one of these days, but it's also not a good idea to hold a referendum to try and break the Labour/Tory duopoly at a time when you've seen to it that it's at its highest popularity since the early 80's.

OT: but why do people insist on changing their names so often? If it weren't for the locations and signatures I'd assume this forum had an ever-revolving door of members.
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« Reply #334 on: May 03, 2011, 05:03:30 pm »
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NO 66%
YES 34%
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« Reply #335 on: May 03, 2011, 09:18:24 pm »
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OT: but why do people insist on changing their names so often? If it weren't for the locations and signatures I'd assume this forum had an ever-revolving door of members.

Users' actual usernames are displayed right below their display names.
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« Reply #336 on: May 04, 2011, 06:50:59 am »
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...exactly, which makes the "Display Name" (the one in bold) just another way to make your account prettier - additional sig space, basically. And I'm using for all that it's worth.
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« Reply #337 on: May 04, 2011, 11:53:56 am »
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68% - NO
32% - YES

People aren't just telling Nick no, they're shouting it at him.
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« Reply #338 on: May 04, 2011, 11:56:59 am »
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68% - NO
32% - YES

People aren't just telling Nick no, they're shouting it at him.

What are they telling Miliband? Smiley
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« Reply #339 on: May 04, 2011, 11:58:22 am »
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32% - YES

People aren't just telling Nick no, they're shouting it at him.

What are they telling Miliband? Smiley

Does anyone care what Miliband thinks of this?
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« Reply #340 on: May 04, 2011, 11:59:17 am »
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68% - NO
32% - YES

People aren't just telling Nick no, they're shouting it at him.

What are they telling Miliband? Smiley

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« Reply #341 on: May 04, 2011, 12:03:44 pm »
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68% - NO
32% - YES

People aren't just telling Nick no, they're shouting it at him.

What are they telling Miliband? Smiley

Does anyone care what Miliband thinks of this?

Well he is one of the most vocal supporters of AV.
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People aren't just telling Nick no, they're shouting it at him.

What are they telling Miliband? Smiley

Does anyone care what Miliband thinks of this?

Well he is one of the most vocal supporters of AV.

No one cares what he has to say. He's pretty irrelevant...
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« Reply #343 on: May 04, 2011, 12:53:27 pm »
Think what you want of him, but had he been the face of 'Yes to AV' (rather than merely an advocate) then it'd be doing a lot better than it is. Not just because he's the Leader of the Labour Party and that a very high percentage of Labour's voters are instinctive loyalists (though they are), but because the case he's personally put - both in terms of argument and of tone - has been just so much better than that used by the official campaign or by its advocates in government.
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People aren't just telling Nick no, they're shouting it at him.

What are they telling Miliband? Smiley

Does anyone care what Miliband thinks of this anything.

No, which is a good sign for Cameron I'd guess.
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Does anyone care what Miliband thinks of this anything.

No, which is a good sign for Cameron I'd guess.

On what basis? Labour, under E-Mil, have been leading in near enough every poll this year; I doubt any Labour leader could've stopped Labour voters giving the Lib Dems a kicking via the AV referendum after what's been year of non-stop provocation.
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Does anyone care what Miliband thinks of this anything.

No, which is a good sign for Cameron I'd guess.

On what basis? Labour, under E-Mil, have been leading in near enough every poll this year; I doubt any Labour leader could've stopped Labour voters giving the Lib Dems a kicking,  via the AV referendum, after a year of provocation.

Ed Milliband just seems like a weak, uninspiring leader to me. From what I can tell he seems unable to catch any real media spot light, has very weak preformances during PMQs (of course much better than Nick Clegg who is beyond terrible) and the speeches I've seen from him seem mildly exciting at best.

I believe Ed has as much to do with Labour's strong polling numbers at the moment as he does with NO's poor one's. I saw the Swedish-left lead by Sahlin ahead of Reinfeldt's goverment by more than 10% in his early years, but in the end they still lost by 5% due to the fact that their strong showing in polls was built on disapproval of the Reinfeldt goverment rather than actual support for their own policies, or their own leader.

Now I'm not saying Milliband is Sahlin, she was out-right loathed while Ed seems to simply be irrelevant.   
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« Reply #349 on: May 04, 2011, 01:49:43 pm »
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Does anyone care what Miliband thinks of this anything.

No, which is a good sign for Cameron I'd guess.

On what basis? Labour, under E-Mil, have been leading in near enough every poll this year; I doubt any Labour leader could've stopped Labour voters giving the Lib Dems a kicking,  via the AV referendum, after a year of provocation.

Ed Milliband just seems like a weak, uninspiring leader to me. From what I can tell he seems unable to catch any real media spot light, has very weak preformances during PMQs (of course much better than Nick Clegg who is beyond terrible) and the speeches I've seen from him seem mildly exciting at best.

I believe Ed has as much to do with Labour's strong polling numbers at the moment as he does with NO's poor one's. I saw the Swedish-left lead by Sahlin ahead of Reinfeldt's goverment by more than 10% in his early years, but in the end they still lost by 5% due to the fact that their strong showing in polls was built on disapproval of the Reinfeldt goverment rather than actual support for their own policies, or their own leader.

Now I'm not saying Milliband is Sahlin, she was out-right loathed while Ed seems to simply be irrelevant.   

Well, I guess this is the kind of leader AV gives us Labourites. Tongue
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