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Question: Do you want the United Kingdom to adopt the 'alternative vote' system instead of the current 'first past the post' system for electing Members of Parliament to the House of Commons?
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Yes		  
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Joe Republic
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« on: April 22, 2011, 05:20:09 AM »

Is that thing in your signature a genuine poster from the No campaign?  I guess it wouldn't surprise me if it was...
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2011, 05:24:06 AM »
Because I am a wise-ass.

Genuine question, though.
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2011, 05:42:03 AM »
So, if I'm reading this bizarre referendum debate correctly, the answer to my previous question is 'yes', and that poster from the No campaign in Refudiate's signature is actually genuine.

Is this really how this matter of constitutional reform is being framed; a question of "Do you like Nick Clegg... yes or no?"  Jeez, I thought our politics were f'ed up.
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2011, 11:02:10 PM »
Quote from: Refudiate on April 22, 2011, 06:41:52 PM
The assumption that the Alliance would've all preferenced Labour is stupid. The Liberals are Tory inclined, the SDP (the "Democrats" of today) were Labour inclined. To put it simplistically.

Thankfully nobody here said otherwise.
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2011, 06:11:57 AM »
So another of the No campaign's arguments is that AV could lead to more votes for the BNP.  I guess democracy truly must be terrible in their eyes.  (Unless it's just fear-mongering propaganda, of course...)
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2011, 06:57:21 PM »

Wow, I didn't realise it was quite that bad.  Jeez, what a crappy system.  I thought the electoral college was awful!
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2011, 07:12:59 PM »
I know that, which is why countries with more than two significant parties have no business using FPTP.
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2011, 07:24:33 PM »
I disagree with your latter assessment; pretty much anything is better than FPTP.  It seems like most of the specific arguments against AV have largely fallen flat.  Not that it matters any more though, once the matter of reforming the constitution became a debate on the Deputy Prime Minister instead.
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2011, 02:57:10 PM »
Quote from: Refudiate on May 03, 2011, 02:46:00 PM
YesToAV seem to have a very "if you support No, you're uneducated" tone. Very much a turn off for people.

Isn't one of the No campaign's key arguments that AV is "complicated"?  I guess they are relying on people being uneducated if that's the case.
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2011, 12:25:46 PM »
And of course, the No campaign has been nothing but honest, accurate, and sticking to the topic... *looks at your signature*... oh.
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2011, 12:34:56 PM »
Quote from: Refudiate on May 05, 2011, 12:26:58 PM
Both campaigns have played it dirty.

Indeed, you're demonstrating that pretty well, even if only half intentionally.


Quote from: Labour 2011 on May 05, 2011, 12:31:34 PM
It seems that you always play the role of the junior spokesperson of the Left.

... Okay.
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