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Question: Which statement do you agree with more?
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"There is no "religous right" or strong "right wing" movement in this country. All that the Republican Party really is nothing more than are rural and southern whites in the natural resource and service industry who bare the brunt
 
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"There is no "liberal" or "left" movement in this country. The Democratic party is nothing more than a loose coalition of desert and inner-city minorities and white Upper Middle Class radicals  in the extreme Northeast and Northwe
 
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They are equally true, and are true.
 
#4
They are equally true, and are untrue.
 
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« on: February 15, 2011, 08:31:50 PM »
« edited: February 15, 2011, 08:42:09 PM by Sen. Mark Mattenburgh »

Well, neither one really has to be true, just one statement has to be substantially more true than the other.

Statement A should really read-

"There is no "religious right" or "right-wing" in this country. The Republican Party is nothing more than a collection of rural and southern whites in the natural resource and service industry who bare the brunt of the social and economic costs of maintaining a Federal Government that increasingly services a population that is different from they are." - A conservative first year law student on the aftermath of the U.S. 2006 General Election.

Statement B should really read-

"There is no "liberal" or "left" in this country. The Democratic Party is nothing more than a loose hodgepoge of desert and inner-city minorities and Upper Middle Class seculars in the extreme Northwest and Northeast. These groups generally bare the majority of the costs of the dominant business and cultural practices in America."- A  middle-age secular retired Mortgage Broker who came just came back from Thailand in the months before the U.S. 2010 General Election.
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2011, 04:07:53 AM »

B is more true than A.

The GOP coalition on the surface seems to be a lot more stable.
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2011, 07:07:10 PM »

In theory, perhaps, but consider this:

- well-educated whites vote Democratic since by virtue of their education, they understand the injustices in our society
- poor minorities vote Democratic since by virtue of personal and family experiences, they understand the injustices in our society

- the right-wing is a coalition of those who want smaller government and those who want bigger government in the most personal dimensions of life
- Sometimes social conservativism and economic conservativism contradict each other. For instance, social conservatism encourages women to put family ahead of career, while economic conservatism punishes women for taking time off from the workforce to raise children.
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2011, 10:33:52 PM »

B. The Dems are an odd combination of the alienated. They are much less interested in structure and hierarchy. The statement about the GOP is patenetly false. It's mostly the GOP states that receive the largesse of federal funding.
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2011, 10:37:03 PM »

B. The Dems are an odd combination of the alienated. They are much less interested in structure and hierarchy. The statement about the GOP is patenetly false. It's mostly the GOP states that receive the largesse of federal funding.

Actual GOP voters are not always the beneficiaries of this though.
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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2011, 10:58:32 PM »

B. The Dems are an odd combination of the alienated. They are much less interested in structure and hierarchy. The statement about the GOP is patenetly false. It's mostly the GOP states that receive the largesse of federal funding.

Actual GOP voters are not always the beneficiaries of this though.
Given that the GOP base is disproportionaly older people, military, and people who live in exurbia, I'd say you're wrong about that. Granted the "always" saves your statement at a literal level. If nothing else, that federal money is getting funneled into the local economies of GOP areas. There's a reason the GOP is too scared to go after entitlements and defense. Their base loves their federal dollars. They're just too delusional to understand that they are the welfare queens.
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2011, 11:05:15 PM »
« Edited: February 26, 2011, 11:07:49 PM by phknrocket1k »

B. The Dems are an odd combination of the alienated. They are much less interested in structure and hierarchy. The statement about the GOP is patenetly false. It's mostly the GOP states that receive the largesse of federal funding.

Actual GOP voters are not always the beneficiaries of this though.
Given that the GOP base is disproportionaly older people, military, and people who live in exurbia, I'd say you're wrong about that. Granted the "always" saves your statement at a literal level. If nothing else, that federal money is getting funneled into the local economies of GOP areas. There's a reason the GOP is too scared to go after entitlements and defense. Their base loves their federal dollars. They're just too delusional to understand that they are the welfare queens.

Well sure.

A lot of actual direct dollar expenditures end up going to:

1.) Military bases. Federal funding fell for Northern states as bases were shutdown through the 1990s and than opened up in the South (which are better for year round operations anyway).

2.) National parks in Wyoming, Arizona, Tennesee. Yellowstone, Grand Canyon, etc. More land is federally owned in the West than the East.

3.) Minority communities who vote heavily D. Shannon County, South Dakota; Black Belt; South Texas, etc.

It's not so much elderly voters who are the GOP base, but more White voters whose fertility rate is low.
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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2011, 11:36:49 PM »

B. The Dems are an odd combination of the alienated. They are much less interested in structure and hierarchy. The statement about the GOP is patenetly false. It's mostly the GOP states that receive the largesse of federal funding.

Actual GOP voters are not always the beneficiaries of this though.
Given that the GOP base is disproportionaly older people, military, and people who live in exurbia, I'd say you're wrong about that. Granted the "always" saves your statement at a literal level. If nothing else, that federal money is getting funneled into the local economies of GOP areas. There's a reason the GOP is too scared to go after entitlements and defense. Their base loves their federal dollars. They're just too delusional to understand that they are the welfare queens.

Well sure.

A lot of actual direct dollar expenditures end up going to:

1.) Military bases. Federal funding fell for Northern states as bases were shutdown through the 1990s and than opened up in the South (which are better for year round operations anyway).

2.) National parks in Wyoming, Arizona, Tennesee. Yellowstone, Grand Canyon, etc. More land is federally owned in the West than the East.

3.) Minority communities who vote heavily D. Shannon County, South Dakota; Black Belt; South Texas, etc.

It's not so much elderly voters who are the GOP base, but more White voters whose fertility rate is low.
The parks aren't a big part of the budget. I wouldn't even count that. The real money is in defense, roads, and healthcare spending. All are GOP interests.
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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2011, 01:46:18 AM »

The left is less united, if that was the question.
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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2011, 11:24:55 AM »
« Edited: February 27, 2011, 11:27:15 AM by Senator Antonio V »

Option 4.

There is a left-wing movement in America, it just lacks political representation.
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