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« Reply #1000 on: August 21, 2011, 05:20:56 PM »

Qadafi will be dead by this evening if he doesnt leave now. Its a great day for Libya, God Bless them. I oppose the war there, but hell, Qaddafi is Qaddafi, so I dont mind being rid of him.
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« Reply #1001 on: August 21, 2011, 05:28:30 PM »

FOX is reporting Qaddafi has left Libya for Algeria.
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« Reply #1002 on: August 21, 2011, 05:43:20 PM »
« Edited: August 21, 2011, 05:46:30 PM by Frodo »

If the recent reports and rebel claims are true, big things could be happening. Tripoli would now be effectively cut off from supply lines.

Many of the news stories say that Tripoli is cut off, though the map suggests that they should still be able to re-supply from Chad or Sudan via Bani Walid and the south:




Is there a color code key so I have some reasonable idea who is who?  I suspect blue stands for areas controlled by Qaddafi, and brown for rebel-held areas.  I have no idea what the green stands for, unless it stands for contested areas.  

Or do I have the blue and green mixed up?  Please help. 
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« Reply #1003 on: August 21, 2011, 05:46:05 PM »

^I would imagine blue means contested and green means Qaddafi.
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« Reply #1004 on: August 21, 2011, 05:51:55 PM »

Given recent events, it might be time to change the thread title...

^I would imagine blue means contested and green means Qaddafi.

You're probably right.
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« Reply #1005 on: August 21, 2011, 06:03:06 PM »

The Gaddafi Government itself is now only claiming "partial" control of Tripoli, which likely means it has completely fallen.

Oil prices to fall soon, hopefully.
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« Reply #1006 on: August 21, 2011, 06:15:12 PM »

Rebels almost in total control. Saif Al-Islam, Ghadaffi's son has apparently been captured.
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« Reply #1007 on: August 21, 2011, 06:24:05 PM »

There are reports that the Gathavi (lol) family have been moving money and assets out of the country for the past couple of days.
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« Reply #1008 on: August 21, 2011, 06:24:58 PM »

InTrade now paradoxically has Gaddafi higher falling before the end of the month than year:

Muammar al-Gaddafi to no longer be leader of Libya before midnight ET 31 Dec 2011
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Muammar al-Gaddafi to no longer be leader of Libya before midnight ET 31 Aug 2011
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« Reply #1009 on: August 21, 2011, 06:52:48 PM »

The Gaddafi Government itself is now only claiming "partial" control of Tripoli, which likely means it has completely fallen.

Oil prices to fall soon, hopefully.

I guess Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf is still out of work.
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« Reply #1010 on: August 21, 2011, 06:53:26 PM »

Rebels have now entered Green Square, Sky News reports.
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« Reply #1011 on: August 21, 2011, 07:23:22 PM »

Gold is reacting by going up $22.50 per Troy Ounce in Asian markets.  Spot Oil is at $82,05, up and spiking on the news.  There is a lot of uncertainty.
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« Reply #1012 on: August 21, 2011, 07:44:57 PM »

I'm listening to BBC World... it's looking very good.
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« Reply #1013 on: August 21, 2011, 07:57:03 PM »

I'm listening to BBC World... it's looking very good.

Indeed. It's very exciting.
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« Reply #1014 on: August 21, 2011, 08:12:26 PM »

MSNBC has amazing coverage. I wish I got BBC Sad
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« Reply #1015 on: August 21, 2011, 08:13:51 PM »

Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin.  Muammar has been weighed and found wanting.

Congratulations, rebels.  You did it.  Allah akbar.

Anyway, I've said enough, so I'll let the man himself give his final speech here, devoid of my commentary.

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« Reply #1016 on: August 21, 2011, 08:31:37 PM »

InTrade now paradoxically has Gaddafi higher falling before the end of the month than year:

Muammar al-Gaddafi to no longer be leader of Libya before midnight ET 31 Dec 2011
91.1% 
 
Muammar al-Gaddafi to no longer be leader of Libya before midnight ET 31 Aug 2011
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Oddly, he's still ahead of Tim Pawlenty for the GOP vice presidential nomination.
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« Reply #1017 on: August 21, 2011, 08:33:17 PM »

Two immediate problems:

1.  Qaddafi could try a guerrilla war.

2.  There could be a tribal war, even if Qaddafi's followers give up.

Libya could look like Iraq before the surge.  Don't get too happy yet.  Sad
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« Reply #1018 on: August 21, 2011, 08:33:54 PM »

We very much want to destroy their air conditioners.
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« Reply #1019 on: August 21, 2011, 08:45:26 PM »

The speed of capitulation and the capture of Qaddafi's heir is a difference, and before Beet comes in and joins JJ in the negativity party... there will be instability, that is without doubt... but that has to happen.
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« Reply #1020 on: August 21, 2011, 08:54:30 PM »

I'm now wondering who will be in office longer, Qaddafi or Obama.

(please note that was only 5 days ago.)
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« Reply #1021 on: August 21, 2011, 08:57:37 PM »

The speed of capitulation and the capture of Qaddafi's heir is a difference, and before Beet comes in and joins JJ in the negativity party... there will be instability, that is without doubt... but that has to happen.

Try "heirs."  They caught 3/7 of them.
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« Reply #1022 on: August 21, 2011, 08:59:35 PM »

The speed of capitulation and the capture of Qaddafi's heir is a difference, and before Beet comes in and joins JJ in the negativity party... there will be instability, that is without doubt... but that has to happen.

Try "heirs."  They caught 3/7 of them.

How many of those three will be alive in a year?

I suppose if any are it'll probably due to them being held in The Hague on the ICC indictment.
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« Reply #1023 on: August 21, 2011, 09:06:11 PM »

There is now a death pic of a Gaddafi circulating. Probably as real as the bin Laden one, but whatever. Click here (quite graphic and NSFW): http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28905.htm
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« Reply #1024 on: August 21, 2011, 09:23:20 PM »

I'm now wondering who will be in office longer, Qaddafi or Obama.

(please note that was only 5 days ago.)

He's still not out, as of yet.  We could be seeing him controlling parts of Libya, if not parts of Tripoli.  Hold your breath, everyone.
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