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« Reply #1075 on: August 22, 2011, 05:29:27 PM »

Word is breaking that Qadafi has drowned in the deluge.
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« Reply #1076 on: August 22, 2011, 05:40:09 PM »

Word is breaking that Qadafi has drowned in the deluge.

I wish.

It isn't over.  Qaddafi is still alive, his forces are out there and still armed.  He has several heirs out there, free.  Let's hold off on the celebration for now.
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« Reply #1077 on: August 22, 2011, 05:41:08 PM »

Two things that bother me about the army.  It didn't mutiny, get killed, captured, or surrendered.  It is still out there someplace.  It didn't leave its weapons behind.


So they followed the "JJ after the 2008 election" strategy.

No, since that strategy was let the victor act and destroy himself.  

ORLY? Because from here it looked like "I'm so embarrassed that I'll do a disappearing act and hope that after some months most people will forget the bullsh**t I propagated during the entire election season".
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« Reply #1078 on: August 22, 2011, 06:07:59 PM »

Green Square officially given it's old name of Martyrs' Square.
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« Reply #1079 on: August 22, 2011, 06:49:27 PM »
« Edited: August 22, 2011, 07:14:30 PM by J. J. »

Two things that bother me about the army.  It didn't mutiny, get killed, captured, or surrendered.  It is still out there someplace.  It didn't leave its weapons behind.


So they followed the "JJ after the 2008 election" strategy.

No, since that strategy was let the victor act and destroy himself. 

ORLY? Because from here it looked like "I'm so embarrassed that I'll do a disappearing act and hope that after some months most people will forget the bullsh**t I propagated during the entire election season".

Except, I didn't.  I took some time off in 2009, but it started about 7 months into Obama's term around August 2009.  I had another online project I was involved in at the time and cut back here.  Also, not too much was happening in 2009, and I wasn't too interested in the NJ or VA governor's races.

I guess you missed a lot of them.

And it is interesting that you sort of forgot that, because, you and were cross posting before I took a break:

Now, I think he's handling it right!

Well, I guess now that Obama has JJ's stamp of approval, why should the Republicans bother to field an opponent against him in 2012?
It's obviously going to be a landslide.

No, Obama was just seeing the same problem I was, and is attempting to correct it.


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« Reply #1080 on: August 22, 2011, 07:34:37 PM »

...Saif al Islam Qaddafi claims to not be in rebel hands.  I'm not sure how this is possible unless rebel security is so s**tty that they manage to catch and lose two different sons of Qaddafi over the course of 24 hours.
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« Reply #1081 on: August 22, 2011, 07:49:54 PM »

...Saif al Islam Qaddafi claims to not be in rebel hands.  I'm not sure how this is possible unless rebel security is so s**tty that they manage to catch and lose two different sons of Qaddafi over the course of 24 hours.
Im beginning to think the NTC takes tweets for truth...
Though the tweets coming from rixos about saif do seem a bit odd.
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« Reply #1082 on: August 22, 2011, 07:50:47 PM »

...Saif al Islam Qaddafi claims to not be in rebel hands.  I'm not sure how this is possible unless rebel security is so s**tty that they manage to catch and lose two different sons of Qaddafi over the course of 24 hours.

He had cash on him?  Smiley

Seriously, I'd expect that not all of Qaddafi's money was out of the counrty.
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« Reply #1083 on: August 22, 2011, 07:54:48 PM »

The reappearance of Saif al -Islam Khadhaffy seems to throw a lot of the narrative of the last 24-hours out of whack.
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« Reply #1084 on: August 22, 2011, 10:23:06 PM »

The reappearance of Saif al -Islam Khadhaffy seems to throw a lot of the narrative of the last 24-hours out of whack.

http://twitter.com/#!/joshuahersh/status/105791297020899328
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« Reply #1085 on: August 22, 2011, 10:44:58 PM »

One the sons took journalists on a tour of Tripoli, the closest thing to a victory parade today.  Wink
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« Reply #1086 on: August 23, 2011, 01:10:46 AM »

The reappearance of Saif al -Islam Khadhaffy seems to throw a lot of the narrative of the last 24-hours out of whack.

The question is whether it was a fog of war issue, or a major failure.
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« Reply #1087 on: August 23, 2011, 03:53:49 AM »

Meh, can't see where all this is going. Hopefully it will be over soon...
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« Reply #1088 on: August 23, 2011, 05:53:19 AM »

The reappearance of Saif al -Islam Khadhaffy seems to throw a lot of the narrative of the last 24-hours out of whack.

http://twitter.com/#!/joshuahersh/status/105791297020899328

Uh, yes. Now, was he ever captured, and, if not, why did the ICC confirm it?
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« Reply #1089 on: August 23, 2011, 06:07:22 AM »

Apparently, he never was. And the ICC screwed up too.
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« Reply #1090 on: August 23, 2011, 08:21:01 AM »

Wake me when this is over.  K?  Thx.
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« Reply #1091 on: August 23, 2011, 10:05:29 AM »

Opebo, your signature makes me cry. Literally. I teared up.
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« Reply #1092 on: August 23, 2011, 10:20:57 AM »

Opebo, your signature makes me cry. Literally. I teared up.

It's quite bizarre that someone who claims to be more afraid of Islam than almost anything else would put the old Libyan flag in his signature.
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« Reply #1093 on: August 23, 2011, 10:45:10 AM »

Opebo, your signature makes me cry. Literally. I teared up.

It's quite bizarre that someone who claims to be more afraid of Islam than almost anything else would put the old Libyan flag in his signature.

No, he's specifically afraid of the bearded men, Gustaf.  Wink
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« Reply #1094 on: August 23, 2011, 10:45:51 AM »

Reports that Gaddafi's compound has been broken into.
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« Reply #1095 on: August 23, 2011, 10:48:30 AM »

CNN reports that the rebels have captured, um, Gadaffi's medical files.
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« Reply #1096 on: August 23, 2011, 11:46:37 AM »

Opebo, your signature makes me cry. Literally. I teared up.

Well, that's good - I want to shake you complacents up a bit.  Think about it - you are getting a narrative in the corporate news media.  This narrative is that Gaddafi is 'bad', and the 'rebels' are 'good'. 

Of course we all know that Gaddafi is no different from dozens of other rulers who are strongly supported by (often even installed by) the US and the West.  He isn't any worse than anyone else.  But he, like Saddam Hussein, was inconvenient for the Empire - an anti-imperialist sitting on oil. 

He's be attacked solely for this reason and even if he did do a bit of torturing or oppressing, at least he stuck his thumb in the eye of Exxon, fascist America, and the Neo-liberal World Empire for a while.  When you do that, though, you always die violently in a firefight or strung up by stooges, never quietly in your bed.

But I'm sure the brave man knew this all along, and did it anyway.  Kudos, Colonel.

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« Reply #1097 on: August 23, 2011, 12:05:39 PM »

Opebo, you mean the same Gaddhafi who was best friends with the west until February this year?
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« Reply #1098 on: August 23, 2011, 12:42:27 PM »

Neither the rebels nor Gaddhafi are good. The imperialists in the west are also bad.
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« Reply #1099 on: August 23, 2011, 12:52:14 PM »

Neither the rebels nor Gaddhafi are good. The imperialists in the west are also bad.

And you as well.
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