Libya: Benghazi unrest, to Civil War, to a new government and Gaddafi's death.

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Hopefully the Ceauşescu analogy is carried to its natural conclusion and they shoot the bastard.

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The New Republic has called Obama's Libya policy a disgrace. Obviously they have a bad record with issues like this, but it's hard to disagree at this point.

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The New Republic has called Obama's Libya policy a disgrace. Obviously they have a bad record with issues like this, but it's hard to disagree at this point.

I don't see what everyone expects Obama to do. Would military intervention in Libya really be worth it?

As Beet said, it's hard to imagine that the consequences of limited military intervention in Libya would be anywhere near as bad as the consequences of Qaddafi defeating the rebellion.

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Well the rebels will need to pull off a Stalingrad at this point. I suspect taking Benghazi will be pretty bloody, since the rebels know that they'll be dead either way.

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Yeah, France is the only Western country that is acting even somewhat bravely. Everyone else, Obama included, is cowardly allowing the stage to be set for a brutal massacre of the opposition and many years of even harsher tyranny and bloodshed.

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Great news, though I worry it might be too little too late.

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Canada will send 6 planes for the no-fly zone.

Hahahahahalololololol hahaha. Thankfully we're not sending our wooden ships, or else they'd get there by 2013.

If only Diefenbaker hadn't canceled the Avro Arrow!

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It's interesting how many civilian casualties they will be. They tend to be a lot in such humanitarian operations.

And yet many, many times less than if Qaddafi succeeded in crushing the rebellion.

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One of the worst things Bush did is to discredit military intervention for humanitarian reasons. It will unfortunately take a while for the American left to support it again, even when done by a Democratic president.

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http://twitter.com/#!/ShababLibya/statuses/49622494138736640

One of the Colonel's sons (Khamis Gaddafi) is reported to have been killed.

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There's a difference between trying to stop Gaddafi from massacring Bengazi and helping the rebels (or, according to Mr. Sarkozy, "peaceful protestors" ) conquering areas, like Sitra, where Gaddafi is actually popular and where the people don't want them.

Coallition is basically taking a side in a civil war. Big mistake and stupidity.

Remind me the U.S.' vital interest there again?  Oh, wait, OIL!!!!!!!

Damn that Bush Obama for getting us into a fight over oil.

Again, I really wonder how many Atlas liberals, that are so enthusiastic toward this operation, would be enthusiastic if Bush still were in power and joined the coallition.

If he acted as Obama has (joining an international coalition, getting UNSC approval, involving Arab states) then I would have easily supported him. Preventing mass murder is more important than partisanship. 

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I vehemently oppose arming the rebels. At a certain point we need to learn our lesson and stop giving weapons to insurgents who are for the time being on our side but may not be in a decade.

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If the world only cared about Libya's oil, wouldn't it have been easier to just do nothing, let Qaddafi massacre the rebels in Benghazi, and then carry on like before?

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I'm confused, opebo. If the rebels really are infiltrated by al-Qaeda, and al-Qaeda are anti-imperialist (true) and Qaddafi is anti-imperialist (don't really agree with you on this one, but for the sake of argument), then what's the problem?

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44212588/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/

Rebels have taken Zawiya and cut off Tripoli.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/21/us-libya-idUSTRE77A2Y920110821

Looks promising.

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J.J.'s posts in this thread...

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http://www.mediaite.com/tv/libyan-rebel-explains-how-he-took-golden-hat-and-scepter-from-gaddafis-bedroom/

lol

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Witness a live negro lynching by anti-Qaddafi rebels.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2frKZ5jFhho&sns=fb

From the youtube description of the rebels: "This young man is murdered in front of a crowd by the NATO, CIA, MI5, Mossad, al Qaeda supported notoriously racist ex-monarchists."

lololol

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Qaddafi's gun found in his compound/palace/whatever:

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In other news, this picture is AWESOME

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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/0826/breaking15.html?fb_ref=.TlhqMZo5Gwk.like&fb_source=home_multiline

hahah, what

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Interesting issue coming up, maybe. The NATO bombing is officially justified as a means of protecting civilians (we all know that the real reason is regime change, but let's ignore that for a moment).

The idea is that regime change is necessary to protect civilians.

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South Africa is pro-Gaddaffi???