Man receives 25 years for insulting creators of stupid, unfunny show

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http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/02/24/virginia.terror.sentence/

If I were Obama this guy would be my first pardon.

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25 years is a little harsh, but he was making what seemed to me a TERRORIST THREAT! Id give him 15. If this were Seth McFarlene, he would get life Im sure. And South Park is the best show on television. I love it, because they make fun of everyone, muslims included, unlike family guy, which only targets special needs people.

Uh no. Family Guy is absolutely vicious to right wingers. It's even hit Vietnam vets. Would South Park ever be willing to do a joke like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boN2lR7vwWE

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25 years is a little harsh, but he was making what seemed to me a TERRORIST THREAT! Id give him 15. If this were Seth McFarlene, he would get life Im sure. And South Park is the best show on television. I love it, because they make fun of everyone, muslims included, unlike family guy, which only targets special needs people.

Uh no. Family Guy is absolutely vicious to right wingers. It's even hit Vietnam vets. Would South Park ever be willing to do a joke like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boN2lR7vwWE

There was a joke in that video?

SP is also vicous to right wingers, but its funny. Family Guy is just nasty some times.

No it's not funny. It's just the same type of "humor" as the Seltzer and Friedberg movies. OMG CELEBRITY REFERENCE! OMG SOMETHING "OFFENSIVE" AND "SHOCKING"! Family Guy has great humor and I have never been offended by anything on it besides the episode where they attacked Christians. South Park offends me all the time with their right-wing garbage and just being stupid and unfunny.

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Family Guy has great humor and I have never been offended by anything on it besides the episode where they attacked Christians.

You have no reason to be offended by that; you're an atheist.

False.

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You think that everything right-wing is "garbage".

And you still haven't told us: even if South Park were a stupid/unfunny show, how does that excuse or justify this man's terrorism?

If he got South Park to cease production it would do wonders for our culture. Just like getting Friedberg and Seltzer to quit making movies.

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Family Guy has great humor and I have never been offended by anything on it besides the episode where they attacked Christians.

You have no reason to be offended by that; you're an atheist.

False.

So what religion are you a part of?

Christianity.

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You think that everything right-wing is "garbage".

And you still haven't told us: even if South Park were a stupid/unfunny show, how does that excuse or justify this man's terrorism?

If he got South Park to cease production it would do wonders for our culture. Just like getting Friedberg and Seltzer to quit making movies.
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So? Again, it doesn't matter; he's still a terrorist.[/quote]

Hordes of your fellow Catholics love the IRA and would argue they aren't terrorists, so I'll take the same attitude toward this guy.

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No the IRA had a wrong cause. This man had a good cause.

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The Family Guy pop culture references and whatnot are used for jokes. In South Park you're basically expected to laugh just because they are there. Kind of like how Friedberg and Seltzer movies are like "HA HA, HERE'S A CHARACTER FROM ANOTHER MOVIE!". South Park is like "HA HA HERE'S ROB REINER AND HE'S FAT AND EATING UNHEALTHILY BUT HE PREACHES AGAINST SMOKING HE'S SUCH A HYPOCRITE! HA HA HA HA!" Family Guy makes actual jokes, even if they're cutaways, so it's a lot better than a stupid show completely devoid in humor.

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For example the subplot in the aforementioned offensive episode, where Stewie kidnaps the cast of Star Trek: The Next Generation was a celebrity reference, but it was really funny and well-written and far superior to the main plot in that episode which was offensive, unfunny garbage, quite rare for Family Guy. Actually the main plot in that episode was very South Park-ish.

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South Park is like "HA HA HERE'S ROB REINER AND HE'S FAT AND EATING UNHEALTHILY BUT HE PREACHES AGAINST SMOKING HE'S SUCH A HYPOCRITE! HA HA HA HA!"

This kind of disproves your own point, BRTD.  You, a non-fan of the show, remember Rob Reiner's appearance in context to an episode about Smoke Stoppers.

What happened in the rest of the episode before and after Sneakers O'Toole walked across the screen?

And I thought Sneakers O'Toole was funny, too, but I don't remember sh**t about the plot of the episode.

Uh, that was the episode where they went to Texas because it was believed that Stewie was demoniacally possessed because he threw up communion wine.. It's even discussed in the bit around Sneakers O'Toole.

Chris: Where are we going?
Stewie: Who cares, as long as it's away from those bloody church fanatics.
Lois: We're going to Texas. We can stay at my sister Carol's place until this blows over.
Brian: Texas? We're going to Texas in search of religious tolerance? That's like trying to get Sneakers O'Toole to take his sneakers off!
*Sneakers O'Toole clip plays*

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South Park is like "HA HA HERE'S ROB REINER AND HE'S FAT AND EATING UNHEALTHILY BUT HE PREACHES AGAINST SMOKING HE'S SUCH A HYPOCRITE! HA HA HA HA!"

This kind of disproves your own point, BRTD.  You, a non-fan of the show, remember Rob Reiner's appearance in context to an episode about Smoke Stoppers.

What happened in the rest of the episode before and after Sneakers O'Toole walked across the screen?

And I thought Sneakers O'Toole was funny, too, but I don't remember sh**t about the plot of the episode.

Uh, that was the episode where they went to Texas because it was believed that Stewie was demoniacally possessed because he threw up communion wine.. It's even discussed in the bit around Sneakers O'Toole.

Chris: Where are we going?
Stewie: Who cares, as long as it's away from those bloody church fanatics.
Lois: We're going to Texas. We can stay at my sister Carol's place until this blows over.
Brian: Texas? We're going to Texas in search of religious tolerance? That's like trying to get Sneakers O'Toole to take his sneakers off!
*Sneakers O'Toole clip plays*

Yes and how many times have you watched that?

I doubt it took multiple viewings to sink in which episode the Rob Reiner joke of South Park occurred.  Hell, for saying South Park just references like Friedberg/Seltzer with no visible purpose, you also sure got the whole "Rob Reiner is hypocrite because he's fat" meaning without much effort.

But the Sneakers O'Toole gag is just as funny out of context. The anti-Rob Reiner stuff isn't all that funny in context and is just Anvilicious preaching.

South Park still has better story structure.  One problem I have with Family Guy (especially recent seasons) is that it spends about 20 minutes of its 22 minute running time building the plot, but the resolution is only about 30 seconds.  Like they could have this whole story line about Peter in an argument with Lois and then in two short sentences tacked on into the end, they make up.  Or Stewie will go on with some big plan about something for 20 min and Brian will ask Stewie "what happened with..." at the 21 minute mark and "oh I decided..." and it's over. They don't tell a funny story.  If they can't fit it all in their running time, I think it should be an hour long show.  The "Road to..."s and other specials are usually their best.

Uh, that's deliberate. It's called a Shaggy Dog Story.

South Park does that too anyway. They often act like there will be some big climax and then end it on a silly note. See the giant douche vs. turd sandwich episode, "Oh, now your vote didn't matter." The end. Roll credits.

The only thing FG has on South Park is that it makes self-referential humor about itself.  Stewie making an "oh, I thought we were going to show a clip" after a one-liner.

Yes and the cut-away gags are great too because they work out of context. It's similar to that show You Can't Do That On Television linked earlier today. The show was literally nothing more than a bunch of skits running together, and these were rarely more than 2 minutes, so it wasn't even like SNL. And it worked PERFECTLY.

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No the thing is in South Park there is no joke. You're basically expected to laugh because of the extremely simplistic caricature of Rob Reiner and ridiculously Anvilicious preaching. You know how all the tobacco employees were singing about how great of a job it is?

Family Guy does not rely on that and it's hardly Friedberg and Seltzer-ish. I mean look at Sneaker's O'Toole for example, that's not a pop culture reference at all.

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I should watch an episode, compile all the cutaway gags, and then determine which percentage are pop culture-related.

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Just because they occasionally poke fun at conservatives does not change the fact that they are frequent left-wing bashers and one of the creators has even said "I dislike conservatives, but I really hate liberals." They are extreme liberal haters no different than Beck even if they mocked him. It's like calling The Daily Show a balanced show because it occasionally pokes fun at liberals.

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How is he conservative? King of the Hill had mostly conservative characters, but it made fun of libertarian-type militia fanatics (Dale), and people against sex ed, fundies, homophobes and global warming deniers. Beavis and Butthead may have poked fun at hippie types with Van Driessen, but he was far more down to earth, logical and likable than people like Buzzcut who was a conservative military type. And it'd be kind of ridiculous to consider Beavis and Butthead any type of political show at all...his movies are obviously not too political.

The main difference though is that Mike Judge's works are funny. The South Park guys' are not.

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Making fun of overtly-PC hippie types does not make one a conservative. Plenty of liberals are annoyed by people like that.