Irish Election Results Thread

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Given that by all accounts FG and FF have 100% IDENTICAL policies (ie: both right of centre pro-business parties) - why doesn't FG simply take on FF as a junior coalition partner and simply have a rightwing FF-FG government with a leftwing opposition made up of Labour, SF and various leftwing Indies?

Because Éamon de Valera didn't accept the Treaty. Don't be ridiculous.

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bye, bye Cyprian Brady

Cyprian Brady was just Bertie Ahern's second seat, no?

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Murphy (i) elected in Kildare North.

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I think that there should be an Irish-language count in every constituency.

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I can't imagine why the electorate would want to vote for Healy-Rae.

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A map of the left-wing vote might be interesting (Lab+SF+ULA+independents).

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The count goes on and on in Dublin SC, where FG's Catherine Byrne has been reelected. It's more or less a done deal at this point; it'll end up being 2 Lab, 1 FG, 1 SF, 1 ULA (PBP).

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So, then six Trots elected? We have the 5 ULA (Boyd Barrett in Dún Laoghaire, Collins in Dublin SC, Daly in Dublin N, Higgins in Dublin W, Healy in Tipperary S) and Halligan in Waterford.

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Are those the Healy-Raes?

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Why are the last constituencies so slow to count ballots ?

Recounts

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Why does Dick Roche want a recount? He's not going to win.

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What's the matter with Kerry N-W Limerick? It doesn't seem like the sort of place to elect 1 Lab and 1 SF out of three seats.

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What's the matter with Kerry N-W Limerick? It doesn't seem like the sort of place to elect 1 Lab and 1 SF out of three seats.

Large leftish vote in Tralee, which is a sizeable town by Irish standards, combined with a large republican vote in Kerry generally.

What's the cause of the republican vote in Kerry?

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Have any recounts changed results so far?  Even the order of eliminations, declared elections and surpluss transfers?

There's a rumour that the all day Galway East recount will result in McHugh pipping Broderick after all.

That is indeed what has happened. McHugh at 8,371, Broderick at 8,365.

I know that Séamus Kirk, the Ceann Comhairle, was automatically returned to the 31st Dáil without having to face the voters, but will tradition have him retain the post or is he likely to be replaced by someone else as the Speaker?

Since 1997 the Ceann Comhairle has been replaced at each new Dáil.

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I notice that Enda Kenny is also Father of the Dáil as well as presumptively the next Taoiseach.  Who else in various Parliaments has held the dual title of Father and PM (however so called).

Éamon de Valera was Father of the Dáil and Taoiseach from 1953 to 1959.

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See part of what I hate about this country is the lack of an obvious left/right divide in parties. It's too bad because it could be interesting in the electoral system.

Ah, but that's what makes it interesting.

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An FG-SF partnership is probably the only one that could never happen in any situation ever. FG and Lab are traditional partners, FF and Lab isn't any less ideologically coherent (the two parties formed government after the 1992 election), FG and FF are both parties of the right, Lab and SF are both parties of the left, and FF and SF are both republican parties. FG and SF have nothing in common.

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But it's never been a defining feature of the party; no one votes Liberal because they want their cut) and both have clear enough ideologies; revisionist socialism (or whatever else anyone feels like calling it) and that oddly mild thing that is Canadian Nationalism.

Has the Liberal Party traditionally stood for revisionism? I know regrettably little of Canadian history, but my impression was that the Trudeau government was the only Liberal government that had clear socialist tendencies.

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But it's never been a defining feature of the party; no one votes Liberal because they want their cut) and both have clear enough ideologies; revisionist socialism (or whatever else anyone feels like calling it) and that oddly mild thing that is Canadian Nationalism.

Has the Liberal Party traditionally stood for revisionism? I know regrettably little of Canadian history, but my impression was that the Trudeau government was the only Liberal government that had clear socialist tendencies.

No, revisionism was a reference to the Social Democrats.

Ah, yes, that would make much more sense.