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« on: March 10, 2011, 01:47:14 am »
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Chinese on top.
Cubans higher than Whites and other Hispanics.
Whites higher than other Hispanics.
Black on bottom.

What do you think?
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2011, 03:27:27 am »
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Um, what criteria are you using for this...?  Business is also a very open ended construct.
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2011, 04:58:45 am »
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Chinese on top.
Cubans higher than Whites and other Hispanics.
Whites higher than other Hispanics.
Black on bottom.

What do you think?

Well, I think you are wrong, and you've forgotten Indians.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2011, 09:58:31 am »
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Yes, the question does not do much for me. I am not sure if I think of Asians more as entrepreneurs, or as professionals (exclusive of the law), or tech nerds. It is a very diverse group. It does seem most pharmacists these days are Asians in the zones in which I fly. They must like drugs. Smiley

Oh, and the economics profession is just crawling with Indians.  They may be catching up with the Jews in that field. Smiley

I guess part of it, is that it is a residual variable. A more interesting variable is interest in education and the like.
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2011, 10:01:45 am »
Quote from: patrick1 on March 10, 2011, 03:27:27 am
Um, what criteria are you using for this...?  Business is also a very open ended construct.

Indeed. Just for example, don't Jamacian-Americans (almost all black) have a reputation as being exceptionally entrepreneurial?
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2011, 10:03:43 am »
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Asians and Jewish the most pro-business.
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2011, 10:23:50 am »
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Um, what criteria are you using for this...?  Business is also a very open ended construct.

Indeed. Just for example, don't Jamacian-Americans (almost all black) have a reputation as being exceptionally entrepreneurial?

West Indians in general tend to be that way, or so I have heard.
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2011, 02:12:42 pm »
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Um, what criteria are you using for this...?  Business is also a very open ended construct.

Confluence of factors:

Rates of entrepreneurship
Rates of professionals
Positive attitudes towards entrepreneurship
Positive attitudes towards investments and finance
Work in industries with lack of unionism
Positive successful role models
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Quote from: phknrocket1k on March 10, 2011, 02:12:42 pm
Confluence of factors:

Rates of entrepreneurship
Rates of professionals
Positive attitudes towards entrepreneurship
Positive attitudes towards investments and finance
Work in industries with lack of unionism
Positive successful role models

These are all class-based, phnkrocket.
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2011, 02:46:36 pm »
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Not sure if Jews could necessarily be considered "pro-business" as opposed to merely "high-income" - if you looked at the proportion of doctors and lawyers (as opposed to "businessmen") among high-income Jews as opposed to high-income individuals of other ethnic groups, it's probably much higher.  And then there's their voting habits...
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2011, 02:47:48 pm »
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Voting Democratic doesn't mean someone isn't pro-business.
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2011, 02:54:04 pm »
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Quote from: Napoleon on March 10, 2011, 02:47:48 pm
Voting Democratic doesn't mean someone isn't pro-business.

Of course not, voting for the party of [more] subsidies, bailouts, and loose monetary policy can indicate a very "pro-business" attitude indeed.  However, in order to not offend Jewish people/play to ethnic stereotypes, I'm going to assume that they vote on ideology rather than self-interest, and most people who vote for Democrats bizarrely believe that Democratic policies hurt big business.
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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2011, 02:56:36 pm »
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It's not up to you to decide what someone's self interest is. I know that as a young person, regardless of income, the Democrats are closer to my self-interest. I also don't see why you think Democrats are any different from Republicans on things like bailouts. Even Coburn voted for TARP.
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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2011, 03:11:09 pm »
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9/51 (17.6%) Senate Democrats, including Sanders, voted against TARP, while 16/49 Senate Republicans (32.7%) voted against it - notable, given that it was requested by a Republican administration.  The difference in the House is even more striking, 108/199 House Republicans voted against it (54.3%), while 63/235 House Democrats (26.8%) voted against it.  On the auto bailout, 20/235 Democrats (8.5%) voted against it, while 150/199 Republicans (75.4%) voted against it.  In the Senate, 3/51 Democrats (5.9%) voted against the auto bailout, while 39/49 Republicans (79.6%) voted against it.
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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2011, 03:30:03 pm »
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The auto bailout happened after Republicans decided to vote against literally anything Obama proposed.

You're not taking into account important things like when Senators are up for re-election or how safe the House districts are for the incumbent or whether or not a member of Congress was retiring after that session. Both parties worked together on it and would do it again if they were in the same situation. It's not like gay marriage or immigration, where it's pretty clear cut across party lines.
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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2011, 03:37:52 pm »
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Voting Democratic doesn't mean someone isn't pro-business.

The Chinese, which I put on top, vote mostly Democratic.

Them along with most other Asians are mostly Democratic voters. Maybe excepting Vietnamese.
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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2011, 03:42:18 pm »
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Quote from: Napoleon on March 10, 2011, 02:47:48 pm
Voting Democratic doesn't mean someone isn't pro-business.

The Chinese, which I put on top, vote mostly Democratic.

Them along with most other Asians are mostly Democratic voters. Maybe excepting Vietnamese.

Yeah but that's relatively recent. I doubt you'd find many Democratic Koreans pre-90s... Probably not in the future if things go like I think they will, lol.
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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2011, 05:02:45 pm »
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Quote from: Napoleon on March 10, 2011, 02:47:48 pm
Voting Democratic doesn't mean someone isn't pro-business.

The Chinese, which I put on top, vote mostly Democratic.

Them along with most other Asians are mostly Democratic voters. Maybe excepting Vietnamese.

Yeah but that's relatively recent. I doubt you'd find many Democratic Koreans pre-90s... Probably not in the future if things go like I think they will, lol.

Of course Asians were pro-GOP as recently as 1996. So..
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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2011, 05:03:31 pm »
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Quote from: Napoleon on March 10, 2011, 03:30:03 pm
The auto bailout happened after Republicans decided to vote against literally anything Obama proposed.

The auto bailout happened while George W. Bush was President.
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Quote from: Napoleon on March 10, 2011, 03:30:03 pm
The auto bailout happened after Republicans decided to vote against literally anything Obama proposed.

The auto bailout happened while George W. Bush was President.

Reminds me of all those stupid teabaggers who think TARP happened under Obama.
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The auto bailout happened after Republicans decided to vote against literally anything Obama proposed.

The auto bailout happened while George W. Bush was President.

Only like $20 billion. It got way bigger starting in January. Even in February we were having to provide more loans to GM and Chrysler.
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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2011, 07:01:03 pm »
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Armenians tend to be very pro-business Republican-ish.  And they're very culturally conservative.

Though, they tend to vote Democratic.
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Armenians tend to be very pro-business Republican-ish.  And they're very culturally conservative.

Though, they tend to vote Democratic.

Glendale's are more D than Fresno's I imagine.
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« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2011, 05:10:37 am »
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Confluence of factors:

Rates of entrepreneurship
Rates of professionals
Positive attitudes towards entrepreneurship
Positive attitudes towards investments and finance
Work in industries with lack of unionism
Positive successful role models

These are all class-based, phnkrocket.

As is being pro-business I might assume.
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