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« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2011, 03:39:13 pm »
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The Harris Administration struggles with bad forecasts for unemployment and steadily increasing unemployment figures. The national average is 45% with the highest unemployment rate in the most populous city in the United States --Chicago. The states on the West Coast have the lowest unemployment on average around 35%. The states closer to the evacuated states are higher than the national average.

Around the world the depression is especially harsh. China and India's industrial revolutions have come to a screeching halt and then proceeded to crash into a steel wall. At least two hundred million or more are out of work in each country respectively, and the poverty level is staggering. In Pakistan, the government has collapsed and India has threatened invasion after Pakistan's former governments final action was to self destruct its own nuclear weapons. Iran has declared war on Pakistan as a result --due to the fact that its nuclear clouds have blown towards Iran. India, although threatening war, is not capable of any sort of war although what is left of the Indian military is vigilant about keeping outsiders --out.

China has tried to double down on the discipline of its people but with widespread poverty riots are the norm. Most Chinese experts believe that the riots will die off eventually --literally.

In Europe, the Scandinavian Alliance --one of the few countries doing comparatively well during the depression, is shooting anyone who tries to cross the border --as long as they look Russian.

The Russian Federation's population is rapidly decreasing due to food and fuel shortages along with harsh winters. Russia, in 2015, invaded and completely took over Azerbaijan, Armenia and Georgia but has since fully removed its own forces due to problems at home. Those three countries are now "locally" governed and there is no national government.

In mainland Europe, the European Union has bit the dust, there is no "European" identity or culture anymore. Intervention in the Middle East war looms as the energy crisis in Europe worsens. Several historical pundits see the opportunity for dictatorships to rise around Europe and the rest of the world due to the depression...

In South America the Brazilian government is in chaos as a military coup ousts the democratically elected government. Venezuela, Bolivia, Argentina, and now Brazil are all authoritarian. Colombia is still democratic in a sense but it is losing the battle against rebels. Ecuador, Peru, Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay all have serious threats to their infant democracies whether from left wing radicals or the military. With Brazil's fall, they see little hope for themselves.

As for Central America, Costa Rica has militarized and has one of the the lowest unemployment in the world having created thousands of military related jobs. Costa Rica has threatened to seize the Panama Canal if anarchy broke out in Panama. Nicaragua is openly hostile to Costa Rica --who has fought back the Nicaraguan advances with much success and superior firepower.

Aside from Pakistan, who detonated their own nuclear weapons in their holding spaces to keep them away from warlords and rebels, there has been no use of nuclear weapons elsewhere. India is the closest to what you would consider "losing control" of its nuclear weapons. Iran's people are most definitely suffering the consequences of Pakistan's actions. Why did Pakistan set off the weapons instead of dismantling them? It took less time to set them off, something they did not have much of.

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2018 continued

The Harris Administration sends several hundred inspectors and experts into the evacuated states armed with military officials. All of the inspectors and experts were volunteer and are well aware of the potential consequences of their actions.

However, the Harris Administration cannot wait any longer to fully implement an economic plan. Harris tells her cabinet they must work under the assumption that the plan for the evacuated states will not happen when they want it to --but still remain ready to implement once she gives the word.

The Administration already had rolled out a plan to help those in poverty by cutting more military spending. Congress approves the cuts after some partisan debate which was ultimately silenced by more poor economic forecasts. Senator Aaron Schock –a member of the American Party--of Utah was one of dissenting opinions who faced some backlash for opposing the President’s plan.
The Canadian Prime Minister approaches the Secretary of State in May 2018 to suggest a Common Market between the US and Canada. The Secretary of State says he will bring the idea to the President. If you were wondering, Canada is not having a problem with riots, but also faces large unemployment figures.

Around the same time, scientists from a small laboratory and research center in Silicon Valley send a brief message to their representative to Congress asking for a meeting with him saying they have a breakthrough that “would change America as we now know it.” The intern opening the letter discards it as a few crazy guys mailing them like some of the other mail he has to open daily. Everyone thinks they’re going to change the world.

President Kamala Harris appoints Professor William Nye, who had been vocal about what the Gates administration should do in response to the catastrophe as well as a critic of the following administrations saying that they have missed an opportunity to change the way we live everyday by redrawing the cities of old, to the “Panel on Health, Engineering and Science in the Evacuated States.” Nye was also extremely critical of then President Gordon who ignored what Nye called “obvious warning signs” that the evacuated states were still not safe. Nye helped create President Hagel’s blueprint for a new America but says the blueprint has since “lost its original intention.”

By August 2018 the Harris Administration, with the support of the Nye Panel, brings letting more people –selectively—back into the evacuated states. The first step to recovery, President Harris explains in an address before both houses of Congress, is to clean out the rubble, keep what might be reusable, and to clean out the bodies. Harris says that it is an unfortunate decision but that the bodies they find will be cremated. Harris says that after the first phase of recovery is complete, they will begin mapping out plans for the new cities and then the third phase is implementation. She says it will take years but with the strength of the American people “we will come through this together and we will be better when we come out on the other side.
The American public is receptive to most of the plan which echoes President Hagel’s; however, they are not receptive to the idea of cremating the bodies –even though most of them have severely decomposed over the past 7 years.

As November comes around, Harris’ American Party does not do well during the midterm elections losing seats in both houses of Congress.

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The Harris Administration acknowledges that the American people are not happy with the cremation of bodies which is already underway but the President says it is a “necessary evil” and that it would take “resources we do not have to identify the millions of bodies…” Several small colonies of survivors have been found in the evacuated states with no more than 20 people in each colony, mostly in the southeast evacuated states where the weather all year round is fairly pleasant.

Senator Aaron Schock once again speaks out against the cremations –but takes issue more with the process and how Harris has gone around Congress and has therefore avoided a confrontation with the representatives of the American people on this issue which is “not of national security, but of convenience for the Harris Administration.”

Both political parties are –for the most part—united against how Harris is handling the cremations but the Patriot Party along with Schock are the most vocal in their opposition. Both houses of Congress pass a resolution forbidding the cremations of bodies from the evacuated states but Harris responds saying “this decision is not Congress’ to make.”

Otherwise, the process of bringing people in to the evacuated states to clear the rubble goes fairly smoothly initially –however; another issue is where to put all the rubble. Currently its being piled on what used to be farmlands outside of suburban and urban areas in the evacuated states while bureaucrats and politicians struggle on what to do with it. The Nye Panel makes a statement saying it has “serious concerns” with the current process and offers an alternative method that would help experts reuse the materials down the road.

Harris’ Secretary of State, at the President’s request, begins negotiating the terms of a common market agreement between the US and Canada. Several top officials from both sides are involved but the process is not revealed to the press.

2019 does not end without leaving a its mark. In December 2019 riots break out over high heating costs in Cincinatti, Columbus, Indianapolis, Nashville, Memphis, Little Rock and several other “eastern” states. The Harris Administration botches its response and the riots get worse with rioters starting to arson buildings. After a week of local police intervention, Harris orders the military into the cities with the worse riots but in Cincinatti, Ohio where the worse riots are, the military uses lethal force which sends the riots berserk. In the end 20 military officials and over 100 rioters are dead from that day alone with the toll worsening as 2020 rang in
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After three weeks of rioting and more deaths, Harris pulls the military and police forces out of Cincinnati, the last place the riots are still occurring, The rioters continue to arson and plunder the city and the media declares that Cincinnati is “burning to the ground.”

Senator Aaron Schock of Utah says he will challenge President Harris for the nomination for the American Party at the American Party convention. California officials, fearing for Harris’ Presidency due to her sinking approvals, set up a primary for April 2020 to help unify her supporters. Schock says that he will contest the primary.

On the other side, the Patriot Party in an early convention in February 2020 nominates Governor of Iowa Kim Reynolds for President and Senator Gavin Newsom of California for Vice President. Who both pledge to stop “the unconstitutional cremations of American citizens” by President Harris as well as to “implement President Hagel’s blueprint for a New America.”
Unemployment decreases slightly for the first time in 8 years in early 2020 even if only by half a percent.
President Harris in a televised news conference is asked why she hasn’t campaigned in California with the primary only days away to which she responds “I’ve been doing the work of the people in Denver. This is my job, this is my focus. I’m confident the people of California want me to be their President.”

Five days later President Harris soundly defeats Aaron Schock in the primary in California 63% to 37%. Schock vows to defeat Harris at the American Party Convention in June.
By the time June rolls around, the cremation issue is still in the backdrop but the American Party is beginning to try to drop the issue altogether with polls showing Reynolds/Newsom leading Harris but not by much. The convention renominates the Harris/Dayton ticket with a minority voting for Schock.

The next few months are spent by Harris and Reynolds trading jabs about the handling of the war and the campaign largely takes over Harris’ day-to-day duties as President contrary to how she handled the primary challenge. Unemployment stays level until election day but the people of Ohio and the other eastern states remember how Harris handled the rioting in their cities and the death tolls associated with them.

2020 Presidential Election




President Kamala Harris of California / Vice President Mark Dayton of Minnesota – 260 Electoral Votes, 49.7% popular vote – American Party

Governor Kim Reynolds of Iowa / Senator Gavin Newsom of California – 284 Electoral Votes, 49.9% popular vote – Patriot Party

Illinois, one of the most contested states this cycle, goes for Governor Reynolds as does all of its neighboring states where President Harris’ numbers have been way in the red for months due to her handling of the cremations and especially the riots.

At this point, no President has won a second term since 2004.
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Presidents of the United States

44 - Barack H. Obama* of Illinois - January 20, 2009 - March 11, 2011
45 - Robert M. Gates** of Texas - March 11, 2011 - January 20, 2013
46 - Charles T. Hagel*** of Nebraska - January 20, 2013 - January 30, 2015
47 - Phillip Gordon*4 of Arizona - January 30, 2015 - November 9, 2016
48 - Dustin McDaniel of Arkansas - November 9, 2016 - January 20, 2017

49 - Kamala D. Harris*5 of California - January 20, 2017 - January 20, 2021
50 - Kimberly Reynolds of Iowa - January 20, 2021 - Present

* - MIA post-Tsunami.
** - Both new political parties claim him as a member
*3 - Assassinated
*4 - Resigned after devastating election loss. First Jewish President.
*5 - First woman President, first Asian-American President, second biracial President.
*6 - Before Obama, there were 6 President's in 35 years. From 2009 to 2017, 8 years, there were 6 President's.

Vice Presidents of the United States

47 - Joseph R. Biden* of Delaware - January 20, 2009 - March 11, 2011
Vacant -  March 11, 2011 - March 28, 2011
48 - Arne Duncan** of Illinois -  March 28, 2011 - January 20, 2013
49 - Phillip Gordon*** of Arizona - January 20, 2013 - January 30, 2015
50 - Dustin McDaniel**** of Arkansas - February 5, 2015 - November 9, 2016

Vacant -  November 9, 2016 - January 20, 2017
51 -Mark Dayton of Minnesota - January 20, 2017 - January 20, 2021
52 - Gavin Newson of California - January 20, 2021 - Present


* - MIA post Tsunami
** - Last surviving cabinet member of the Obama Administration after Gates following the tsunami. Gates quickly appoints him as Vice President.
*** - Succeeds President Hagel upon his assassination.
**** - Succeeds President Gordon upon his resignation after his defeat in the election.

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   President Reynolds, as all her predecessors, commits to seeing the repopulating and rebuilding of the evacuated states in accordance to the Blueprint for a New America which her administration will –be obviously revising just like her predecessors.
   Over the first year of her tenure as President, Reynolds ushers in thousands of new jobs as the rebuilding efforts commence. William Nye still heads the Panel on Health, Engineering and Science in the Evacuated States and issues few public statement but is known to be quite vocal inside the Administration.
   By December 2021 the unemployment rate has dropped 10% to around 35% nationally and President Reynold’s approval ratings are in the 70’s. The cremation of bodies ceases and legislation on what to do with the bodies stalls in Congress as “holding centers” for the bodies begin to overflow. The Reynolds Administration manages to suppress negative stories about the “facilities” where the bodies are being temporarily stored.

2022
   January 2022 rolls around and in terms of the initial phase of clearing out the rubble in the evacuated states, its nearly complete in some states with unprecedented amounts of manpower. The American Government manages to pay people what little it can and also tries its hardest to provide housing in “work camps” in the evacuated states. The government is regulating where people sleep and live in the evacuated states for efficiency, greater organization and safety.
   In February 2022, Professor William Nye resigns, along with three quarters of other members, from the panel citing a lack of acknowledgement from the Administration.
   In mid 2022 Senator Aaron Schock of Utah visits a small laboratory in Nevada, at the request of the laboratory, and asks them to relocate to Utah –within three months the laboratory and all of its workers have moved to a new headquarters in Salt Lake City.
   Reynolds approval remains high in 2022 as more rubble is cleared from the evacuated States. By the end of 2022, some rebuilding has started as well as much planning and zoning. In March 2022 the unemployment rate drops to a nearly 10+ year low of 28%.
   However, many economists outside the Administration criticize the lack of transparency including how the Administration is having less and less external support in planning the recovery efforts.
   In terms of international events, the world is still in a depression. Europe and Asia are struggling to recover while Africa is largely the way it was before The Catastrophe –except that its own urban centers are struggling even more. War and anarchy has been the default in the Middle East which started as Arabs v. Hebrews and has evolved into Arabs v. Arabs with Israel somewhere in the mix.
   Indian and "Pakistan" went to war in late 2016 and now India occupies Pakistan for the most part. India had fears that Pakistan did not detonate all of their nuclear weapons.
         Other countries nuclear weapons have largely remained secure. China, fearing the fall of the North Korean dictatorship, destroyed North Korea’s nuclear facilities in 2018 during its own civil war as the dying act of a world power.
   To most academics, the United States still is a world power –other countries that academics declare as having relatively stable governments are India, South Africa, Iceland, Finland, Norway and Sweden.



 Green = Stable government w/ no radical opposition that has an honest chance of overthrowing the current type government
Light green = Stable government with quickly growing radical opposition to the current type of government, in many cases this opposition is armed or is the military
Orange = Opposition to the current type of government are mobilized and armed. Current government is actively or inactively fighting against them
Red = Full out Civil War where the “current” government is not recognized by a majority of the people
Gray = Government? What government?



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March 2022

   A report is released alleging that thousands of illegal and undisclosed workers are working in the evacuated states and says that Reynold’s Administration is not doing a good enough job ensuring border security and keeping track of what’s happening in the evacuated states.

   Around the same time, the Reynold’s Administration reveals the results of the Census and the new Electoral Map. Congress has approved a “Return to Normalcy” plan for Rhode Island and Maryland which would allow workers to vote while working in these territories. Workers in other evacuated states would be given absentee ballots for their home state. Maryland and Rhode Island are given 3 electoral votes each and President Reynold’s appoints a Military Governor for both areas.

   The “Return to Normalcy” plan has Congressional elections scheduled for Maryland and Rhode Island in 2026.



Green = Increase in Electoral Votes
Yellow = Decrease in Electoral Votes
Gray = No Change
Blue = Rhode Island/Maryland who were each given 3 Electoral Votes
Total: 551 Electoral Votes (276 to win)
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Just a note that most of what was Rhode Island is under water. Approximately 45% of it is above sea level. Most workers are reaching Rhode Island via boat from one of the states on the Gulf of Mexico.

May 8, 2022

Several workers are hospitalized in West Virginia after bumps that were filled with a thick, opaque fluid appeared on their skin. They had been working in Virginia...

May 12, 2022

Excerpts from a phone conversation between a Doctor in the hospital and another Doctor...

We've had the five patients quarantined as well as all of the people who have come in contact with them...the President sent this distinguished General down here...its scary how willing they are to throw people into quarantine...I don't think there's a need for the armed guards....not only around the rooms they're quarantined in but around the whole facility...

What do you think it is? It couldn't be...

Everything points to it...

May 14, 2022

I spoke with the General today...I told him what we thought it was...there is an even greater military presence here now...he warned me not to talk about what was going on here...

Did you confirm it?

Confirm it? I knew it was it when I saw it...


May 23, 2022

"Have you heard from Dr. Friedemann in West Virgnia, honey?"
"I've tried to get a hold of him...the hospital staff said he left...he won't answer his phone...I can't get a hold of his family..."
"Honey, do you think...?"
"I've been thinking we should leave..."



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News Channel 5 - A suburban community outside of Chicago

"Last night neighbors reported a break in at the home of Dr. Harold Quirin. Police arrived at the scene to find the house broken into but with no one present. Police have been unable to contact Dr. Quirin or his wife and are in the process of trying to contact family as to find their whereabouts. There are no signs of a struggle within the house. Police do not suspect foul play at this time."
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"Mrs. President..."

"Have you isolated the problem?"

"Yes, we've taken care of it. You don't need to concern yourself with it."

"Good, we cannot let something like this rip through America at a time where morale is already horribly low. History will judge us well for making these hard decisions..."



June 2022


A reporter living with workers in Virginia, along with a dozen or so workers, develops bumps  filled with a thick, opaque fluid while in a camp in Virginia and become very ill. The reporter manages to call home and tell her family about it. Her father, a surgeon, is confused by the description. "Honey, this can't be --but it sounds like smallpox. You need to get to a hospital immediately."

The reporter Lynsay Dayna is brought to a hospital in West Virginia, the same one that the first batch of workers went to. Days later the patients are "relocated" from the hospital by the military to a "military hospital." When Dayna's father arrives the hospital has no information on where she might be.

Dayna's job at the Denver Times contacts her father upon not hearing from Lynsay in over two weeks. Her father explains what happened and the story gets national airtime.

The military and the President's spokeswoman are categorically denying their involvement....

By July 2022 doctors have recorded over 100 cases of smallpox...many theorize that during the construction efforts the strain was released from its contained state in a former Center for Disease Control. Others believe a more diabolical theory in which the strain was purposely released...the fact is that no one is certain how it was released...

Small pox vaccinations are in extremely short supply and there is a deficit of the resources needed to make them...those who can pay are getting the vaccinations first...The Reynolds Administration states that it "is doing everything in our power to ensure that all Americans regardless of income, race and class are getting this vaccination..." Unfortunately that is not the stark reality for many Americans. Not only is fear of smallpox rampant in America, news has spread to other countries who are also preparing for a possible epidemic...

By August 2022 the number of people who have contracted smallpox has increased 100x to 10,000...the death toll, out of these cases, is around 2,000...

The Reynolds Administration quarantines the evacuated states, pretty much locking them "out" of the inhabited United States. Reynold's actions are condemned by the American Party (and most of the Patriot Party excluding its leadership)...Senator Aaron Schock calls the President's actions a "death sentence for millions of Americans working and living in the evacuated states..."

President Reynolds addresses the nation defending her actions calling it for "the greater good. If we let everyone in the evacuated states back in, then we will all surely be at the mercy of small pox. Right now we have the illness contained and we are looking for ways to save as many lives as possible..."

The Secretary for Health & Human Services lobbies with pharmaceutical companies to lower the price of the vaccine and to let the Administration help distribute it better...the companies respond that "they're doing all they can" but the resources to make it are "scarce at best."


By September 2022 the question of where the dead bodies are being brought comes up again...the Administration refuses to comment.

The midterm elections in 2022 come around and the American Party regains both houses of Congress for the first time since 2018.

Midterm Results:

Senate (68 Seats):

American Party: 40
Patriot Party: 25
Independent: 3

House of Representatives (477 Seats):

American Party: 310
Patriot Party: 134
Independent: 33


Unemployment: 33%
Reynold's Approval: 21%
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By the time January 2023 rolls around the rate of infection has declined but it is still spreading. Parts of Kentucky, Ohio, Tennessee, West Virginia and Alabama are militarized. Construction efforts in the evacuated states virtually come to a halt and the American Red Cross says the Administration is not properly preparing their workers for the winter....


July 2023

With the recovery stalled due to the continuing smallpox epidemic unemployment jumps back up to 40% as Reynold's approval rating dips into the teens. The American Party controlled Congress tries to legislate demands on the bureaucracy as to how to handle the epidemic but the Reynold's Administration has its own ideas...impeachment is mentioned but it ultimately goes nowhere...

Former Senator Mike Lee an old Republican who now considers himself a member of the American Party says that "President Reynolds has proven her incompetence. She needs to get out of the way so our country can move forward and solve this problem."

The rest of the year comes and goes with millions of Americans living in fear...sometime in November 2023 after over 2 million people contracted the disease and nearly 750,000 died, the vaccine has finally been distributed to more than 2/3rds of the population over a year and a half later...

Pundits have said it would be impossible for Reynolds to recover from such a devastating mark on her record. Her approval rating has been in the single digits for months.

In January 2024 the Reynolds Administration feels comfortable enough with new checks in place that they can allow controlled traveling between the evacuated states and the rest of the United States. Many workers go back to their homes, after passing medical evaluations, having not seen their families since 2022 --or in some cases earlier.

In April 2024 the British Civil War ends with the dissolution of the United Kingdom into Wales, England, Scotland and the agreement that Northern Ireland will vote on if it wishes to become part of Ireland or remain independent.

What does bump Reynold's approval, although slightly, is her handling of riots and domestic uprisings across the United States...Reynold's forces use very different tactics than the way they handled the quarantine...

In May 2024 Senator Aaron Schock of Utah receives the nomination for the American Party and selects scientist William Nye of California as his running mate. President Kim Reynolds of Iowa receives the Patriot Party nomination but Vice President Gavin Newsom opts not to run with her for reelection. Instead Reynold's picks Congressman Corbinian Viet an Indian American. Interestingly enough one of his parents is German, the other Indian and he was born in the United States...

As the election approached Reynolds took credit for increasing employment (which has since again dropped to 38%) but the American people are not willing to forget their fallen brothers to the hands of smallpox which they blame on Reynolds.

*Just a note, I realize Schock is from Illinois. He moved west after the catastrophe like many other Americans.

November 2024 Presidential Election



Senator Aaron Schock of Utah/William Nye of California - 436 Electoral Votes, 61.7% popular vote - American Party
President Kim Reynolds of Iowa/Congressman Corbinian Viet of Michigan - 115 Electoral Votes, 31.3% popular vote - Patriot Party
Other Various Candidates - 7.0% Popular Vote

Senator Schock wins in a lopsided victory over President Reynolds. Many people doubt if its possible for a President to win a second term as President during these times...Exit Polls, when conducted, showed that both candidates favorability ratings were in the negatives although Reynold's substantially more than Schock...


Congressional Election Results

Senate (68 Seats):

American Party: 44 (+4)
Patriot Party: 19
Independent: 5 (+2)

House of Representatives (477 Seats):

American Party: 325 (+15)
Patriot Party: 113 (-21)
Independent: 39 (+6)


Unemployment on Election Day: 35%
Reynold's Approval on Election Day: 13% Strongly Approve/Approve, 67% Strongly Disapprove/Disapprove, 20% Unsure/No Opinion
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Presidents of the United States

44 - Barack H. Obama* of Illinois - January 20, 2009 - March 11, 2011
45 - Robert M. Gates** of Texas - March 11, 2011 - January 20, 2013
46 - Charles T. Hagel*** of Nebraska - January 20, 2013 - January 30, 2015
47 - Phillip Gordon*4 of Arizona - January 30, 2015 - November 9, 2016
48 - Dustin McDaniel of Arkansas - November 9, 2016 - January 20, 2017

49 - Kamala D. Harris*5 of California - January 20, 2017 - January 20, 2021
50 - Kimberly Reynolds of Iowa - January 20, 2021 - January 20, 2025
51 - Aaron Schock of Utah - January 20, 2025 - Present

* - MIA post-Tsunami.
** - Both new political parties claim him as a member
*3 - Assassinated
*4 - Resigned after devastating election loss. First Jewish President.
*5 - First woman President, first Asian-American President, second biracial President.
*6 - Before Obama, there were 6 President's in 35 years. From 2009 to 2017, 8 years, there were 6 President's.

Vice Presidents of the United States

47 - Joseph R. Biden* of Delaware - January 20, 2009 - March 11, 2011
Vacant -  March 11, 2011 - March 28, 2011
48 - Arne Duncan** of Illinois -  March 28, 2011 - January 20, 2013
49 - Phillip Gordon*** of Arizona - January 20, 2013 - January 30, 2015
50 - Dustin McDaniel**** of Arkansas - February 5, 2015 - November 9, 2016

Vacant -  November 9, 2016 - January 20, 2017
51 -Mark Dayton of Minnesota - January 20, 2017 - January 20, 2021
52 - Gavin Newson of California - January 20, 2021 - January 20, 2025
53 - William Nye of California - January 20, 2025 - Present


* - MIA post Tsunami
** - Last surviving cabinet member of the Obama Administration after Gates following the tsunami. Gates quickly appoints him as Vice President.
*** - Succeeds President Hagel upon his assassination.
**** - Succeeds President Gordon upon his resignation after his defeat in the election.
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January 2025

President Aaron Schock is inaugurated and like every President before him he promises to finish implementing what is now known as The Hagel Plan for Renewed Prosperity.

Schock pledges to continue rebuilding, get smallpox back under control with fatalities already decreasing, and to have more states up and running. Schock also has the task of fighting inflation which increased dramatically during the Reynolds Administration.

Former Washington State Senator and former Governor Maria Cantwell announces very early on that she is "interested in seeking the Presidency if our country is not on the right track in 2028." She would be 71 years old on inauguration day.

It is noteworthy that Presidents Obama, Gates and Hagel rank in the top 15 for greatest Presidents of all time. Gordon and McDaniels rank at the bottom of the pile with Reynolds and Harris both in the middle. McDaniel is also being mentioned as a contender in 2028. He would be 58 on inauguration day.

February 2025

The heavily controlled American Party Congress, controlling 68% of the House and 64% of the Senate immediately shifts into first gear.  A bill is passed setting up an exact timeline for setting up state governments in all of the evacuated states although many of its responsibilities will fall to the Federal government until the state is ready to take it over. The new state governments will be elected in 2026 and their old Constitutions will be used.

Washington DC, the former capital of the United States, will be considered part of Virginia. The executive capital was moved to Denver in the wake of the Catastrophe, the judicial capital to Sacramento and the legislative capital to Topeka, Kansas. The American Party controlled Congress is considering a bill to move the legislative and judicial capitals to Denver.


March 2025

Quietly, the bill to move the legislative/judicial capitals to Denver fails in both houses.
Small pox deaths continue to decline as does infection rates. Small pox epidemics are breaking out in other parts of the world where the death toll is much worse with vaccines being applied sporadically at best.

President Schock signs the "Schock - Nye Education Reformation Act" into law, redesigning the way math and sciences are taught in the United States and with new emphasis on engineering and energy related fields.

President Schock states that "tax reform" is his next highest priority.

June 2025

Northern Ireland votes to remain independent of Ireland.

July 2025

Canada's unemployment rate jumps to 23% after the bankruptcy of a major manufacturing corporation. Homelessness and poverty jump.

August 2025

Things get worse for Canada as small pox breaks out in Vancouver which has become a cesspool for homelessness and poverty. Thousands die within a week. After two weeks of extraordinarily high deaths the Canadian government asks the United States for help. President Schock sends in medical teams to help but they are unable to slow down the rate of death in Vancouver --but they are able to slow infections.

September 2025

The Canadian Prime Minister faces a vote of no confidence, and the independent Quebec supporters take to the streets in Quebec fearing that a smallpox scare could happen there as well (and that the current PM is not doing enough).

The government of Russia goes into exile as a military-coup takes over. The Chinese government, having become more stable since fighting back Democratic forces, threatens to invade if Russia's nuclear weapons are not secure.

December 2025

The year ends with unemployment down to 33%, inflation up around 14% and Schock's approval ratings at 46% and disapproval ratings at 39%

Oil prices have been sky high for many years now, and the Administration is being pushed to help find more alternative energy sources. Vice President Nye is leading the charge to do just that.



Internal international conflicts are up with many quasi-stable governments now in conflict with opposition forces...

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January 2026

The Canadian Prime Minister, having survived the first round of a no confidence vote, is once again facing a no confidence vote. The PM calls the vote a "sham" and a breach of the "legislatures responsibility while we are in such a perilous time." The legislature overwhelmingly votes no confidence in the Prime Minister who refuses to step down from office. Pro-independence Quebec fighters and advocates take to the streets storming government buildings and setting arson to many.

The Canadian legislature elects a new Prime Minister, from Alberta, who vows to put down the rioters and to "silence" the former Prime Minister. Canada's government is now very unstable.
 
February 2026

With rioting widespread in most of Canada's major cities, many are crossing into the United States both legally and illegally. In fact, American workers found a colony of Canadians living in Maine. President Schock acts and allows many to be accepted as refugees.

Rebuilding continues in the Evacuated States with everything on schedule, for once, for the state governments to be back up and running.

March 2026 and the fall of Canada

On March 8, 2026 a portion of the military of Canada sides with the rioters and usurps the legislature and the governments power while another portion sides with the rightful Prime Minister. The two sides quickly are at conflict with each other trying to regain control of the legislature in Ottowa and a firefight ensues.

Over the following days the Canadian government ceases to exist as one entity and the United States mobilizes as a result. When American medical personell are attacked in Vancouver, President Schock orders paratroopers in to protect the Americans. Both sides of the Canadian conflict take this as an act of war and become openly hostile towards the United States.

President Schock orders more forces into western Canada, mainly British Columbia and Vancouver, to help evacuate American officials.

Quebec, after a few days, is mainly controlled by the pro-Quebec faction of the military and its supporters.




Red: Heavy American influence but not American controlled (Yukon is uncontested, British Columbia would be orange otherwise...Vancouver is pretty much American occupied)
Orange: "Legitimate" Canadian forces
Purple: Uncontested territories
Pink: Pro-Quebec forces


April 2026 through October 2026 and the Canadian-American War

April and May 2026 in Canada proved to be one of the most deadly months in Canadian history. Both sides armed to the teeth fought each other over Quebecs independence and blamed the other side for the decrepit quality of life that had emerged in Canada over the past few years --also fueled by regionalism.

Unknowingly to the public, President Schock and his advisors planned an intervention in Canada. They would wait for the pro-Canadian unity forces to make a public relations mistake and seize on it, making it into a full blown scandal, while Schock's CIA director suggested fabricating an atrocity of sort in order to enter the war.

President Schock in private said he wanted to intervene and it would help America recover --but that he did not want to "give the order" but if something happened then it happened...

June - July 2026

Reports that the pro-Canadian forces were murdering innocent civilians in order to gain information about pro-Quebec forces is reported by the media and intelligence officials. President Schock condemns the pro-Canada forces and vows to intervene if it continues.

A week goes by and reports are still coming out of Canada about civilian deaths. Schock orders US military forces into western Canada seizing many of the Canadian military's assets and quickly formally occupying Vancouver.

Schock's approval skyrockets as the intervention is seen by most Americans as moral, even though the atrocities were fabricated and inflamed by American officials unbeknown to the American public.

By October 2026, the US and Quebec formally occupy all or most of Canada. Pro-Quebec forces begin to establish their own government in Quebec while the United States takes an occupation role in the rest of Canada.  The Northern territories is largely unoccupied. The US is doing reconissance over Canada's frozen north to look out for pro-Canada strongholds.

November 2026

Party control of the houses of Congress remains the same but new elected officials are elected in the Evacuated States. Each evacuated state is given 2 Senators and one Representative.

Senate (100 Seats):

American Party: 60 (+16)
Patriot Party: 33 (+14)
Independent: 7 (+2)

House of Representatives (492 Seats):

American Party: 335 (+10)
Patriot Party: 118 (+5)
Independent: 39 (No Change)


(Increases are from new seats in Congress).


Unemployment rate in December 2026: 23%
Inflation: 15%
Shock approval: 63%
Disapproval: 33%
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2027

Former Governor of Washington State Maria Cantwell says that she is "strongly leaning towards running against President Schock in 2028" as a member of the Patriot Party.

Former President Dustin McDaniel says that he might also run against President Schock.

The Canadians are not having a hard time adjusting to American occupation but the rest of the world is. Many other nations are calling it an act of American imperialism and say that President Schock is using Canada to help America get out of its own recession, however; no one suspects Schock of facilitating a phony reason for going to war with Canada.

Independent Quebec elects its own peaceful government early in 2027 as the American Party controlled Congress begins to create a plan to incorporate the occupied Canadian territories into the United States.

Unemployment drops to 18% as more Americans move back to the eastern seaboard and get work. Inflation is around 17% and President Schock's approval is still in the 60's.

2027 proves to be a very unexciting year with no major catastrophes in the United States and the Canadian occupation being rather uneventful with few skirmishes or riots.

2028

Former Governor/Senator Maria Cantwell and former President Dustin McDaniel announce their candidacy for the Patriot Party nomination for President in 2028. Cantwell is heavily favored in the polls.

The primary process begins with Cantwell easily trumping McDaniel, and President Schock easily winning renomination by he American Party.

Cantwell selects Governor Steve Bullock of Montana to be her running mate.
Vice President William Nye will remain on the American Party ticket.

May 2028

President Schock's approvals begin to come back down to earth as problems ensue over legal issues in the evacuated states. Shock issues an executive order stating that no claims may be made for insurance or for property prior to 2020 in the evacuated states. The public reaction is mixed, with many former land developers saying that the property is still theres, and with advocates saying that this allows them to start fresh. This issue had come up in earlier Administrations but claims had never gone as far as they did during the Schock administration.

Schock's approval is in the low to mid 50's.

October 2028

President Schock's CIA Director abruptly resigns from office. Without any official statement, President Schock appoints a new CIA Director which quickly gets Senate approval.


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You mean there's no gay sex scandal with that nancy boy being President?
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You mean there's no gay sex scandal with that nancy boy being President?

Not yet at least haha
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As the election approaches, polling shows that even though Schock's approval is in the low to mid 50's, Cantwell'ls favorability is much higher than his. Most pundits believe it is because she reminds voters of the way the country was before the catastrophe --especially since she's using it to her advantage when campaigning saying she was "personal friends of Chuck Hagel, Barack Obama and Bob Gates..."

During the debates the major issue that comes up is inflation. Schock argues for income, price and wage controls to fight inflation which Cantwell says failed under Nixon --while Cantwell argues for changes in monetary and fiscal policy in order to battle it. Cantwell says part of the problem is that "the past few Administrations have begun to print money like there was no tomorrow and now much of it is useless."




November 2028



Total Electoral Votes: 578
Magic Number: 290


President Aaron Schock of Utah / Vice President William Nye of California - 290 Electoral Votes, 51.1% Popular Vote of the American Party
Governor Maria Cantwell of Washington / Governor Steve Bullock of Montana - 288, 46.6% Popular Vote of the Patriots Party
Other - 2.3% popular vote


For the first time since 2004, an incumbent President is reelected although by a narrow margin in the Electoral College.

Senate (100 Seats):

American Party: 62 (+2)
Patriot Party: 33 (No Change)
Independent: 5 (-2)

House of Representatives (492 Seats):

American Party: 340 (+5) (69%)
Patriot Party: 108 (-10) (22%)
Independent: 44 (+5) (9%)


January 2029


President Schock is inaugurated for his second term and pledges to continue rebuilding America.

February 8, 2029

Vice President William Nye says that he will be resigning from the Vice Presidency due to "health and family concerns." Pundits and reporters speculate as to what was the reason for his resignation so early into his second term.

February 9, 2029

In an interview when asked about Nye resigning, Schock's former CIA Director says "I guess Nye found out what's really going on in the Administration" and declines to elaborate more.

The Schock Administration calls the former CIA Director a "former disgruntled employee trying to stir up drama for his own reputation."

February 12, 2029

Former Vice President Nye in an interview says that he believes "the President mislead us into the war with Canada and even went so far as to order the CIA to stimulate certain events in order to give us a reason to invade."

The President denies the accusations. His FBI Director resigns the next day.

February 15, 2029

Leaders of the Patriot Party in the House of Representatives call for an investigation of the President and his officials.

March 3, 2029

After several weeks of stalling, the Judiciary Committee in the House opens an investigation into the President's actions prior to the war with Canada. President Schock states that "the committee will find nothing because there is nothing to find."

April 3, 2029

Former Vice President Nye, Schock's former CIA Director, former FBI Director, Secretary of Defense and Chief of Staff are all issued subpeonas and disposed.

President Schock nominates former Texas Governor Greg Abbott for Vice President.

April 20, 2029

President Schock is issued a subpeona.

April 22, 2029

The Senate narrowly votes down President Schock's pick for Vice President by a 51-49 margin. All of the Patriots Party and Independent Senators along with 13 American Party Senators voted against his confirmation.

July 13, 2029

President Aaron Schock is impeached by the House of Representatives making him the third President in history to be impeached.

The trial of President Schock becomes the prevailing news topic and all new initiatives by the President come to a standstill. Schock's approval rating drops to 40% with many people still supporting him because they are unsure of what exactly he is being accused of.

July 20, 2029

Congress gets a hold of the recordings from the conversation between Schock and his advisors including the former CIA Director where Schock gave them permission to "create" a reason for the US to go into war.

The President's approval drops exponentially. Schock calls the tapes a "national security concern" and that "Congress received those tapes by questionable means."

August 11, 2020

As the trial in the Senate continues, rumors start flying that President Schock may step down. The current Speaker of the House is a Congressman from Missouri Blaine Luetkemeyer who had been in Congress before the catastrophe. He is 77 years old. If Schock were to resign, Luetkemeyer would become President. There are some health concerns from members of his own party


August 15, 2020

The American Party  members of Congress from both houses meets privately. Senators express concerns over Luetkemeyer's ability to lead the United States and his prior health problems. Supporters of the Speaker say that his health problems are not severe and that he has been serving his country admirably thus far.

The caucus puts up Luetkemeyer's leadership up for a vote amongst the House members of the American Party. His leadership is sustained by 261 votes to 79 votes.

August 28, 2029

Schock's Secretary of Defense resigns.

August 30, 2029

Seeing that other cabinet officials are on their way out, Schock's Secretary of the Treasury as well as Secretary of the Interior step down.

September 1, 2029

President Aaron Schock announces that he will resign from office effective in a few hours. He says that "my leadership is no longer valued by Congress, my party or the nation. Therefore, I am stepping down from the Presidency. I wish Speaker Blaine Luetkemeyer the best of luck as President."

Hours later President Blaine Luetkemeyer is sworn in by a Federal judge.

September 2, 2029

President Luetkemeyer says that former President Schock will not receive a pardon. He also announces that he will be asking for the resignation of the entire cabinet.
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American Party
Patriots Party


Presidents of the United States

44 - Barack H. Obama* of Illinois - January 20, 2009 - March 11, 2011
45 - Robert M. Gates** of Texas - March 11, 2011 - January 20, 2013
46 - Charles T. Hagel*** of Nebraska - January 20, 2013 - January 30, 2015
47 - Phillip Gordon*4 of Arizona - January 30, 2015 - November 9, 2016
48 - Dustin McDaniel of Arkansas - November 9, 2016 - January 20, 2017

49 - Kamala D. Harris*5 of California - January 20, 2017 - January 20, 2021
50 - Kimberly Reynolds of Iowa - January 20, 2021 - January 20, 2025
51 - Aaron Schock *7 of Utah - January 20, 2025 - September 1, 2029
52 - Blaine Luetkemeyer *8 of Missouri - September 1, 2029 - Present


* - MIA post-Tsunami.
** - Both new political parties claim him as a member
*3 - Assassinated
*4 - Resigned after devastating election loss. First Jewish President.
*5 - First woman President, first Asian-American President, second biracial President.
*6 - Before Obama, there were 6 President's in 35 years. From 2009 to 2017, 8 years, there were 6 President's.
*7 - First President to be reelected since 2004, resigned while under impeachment.
*8 - Succeeded Schock, formerly Speaker of the House

Vice Presidents of the United States

47 - Joseph R. Biden* of Delaware - January 20, 2009 - March 11, 2011
Vacant -  March 11, 2011 - March 28, 2011
48 - Arne Duncan** of Illinois -  March 28, 2011 - January 20, 2013
49 - Phillip Gordon*** of Arizona - January 20, 2013 - January 30, 2015
50 - Dustin McDaniel**** of Arkansas - February 5, 2015 - November 9, 2016

Vacant -  November 9, 2016 - January 20, 2017
51 -Mark Dayton of Minnesota - January 20, 2017 - January 20, 2021
52 - Gavin Newson of California - January 20, 2021 - January 20, 2025
53 - William Nye *5 of California - January 20, 2025 - February 8, 2029
Vacant - February 8, 2029 - Present


* - MIA post Tsunami
** - Last surviving cabinet member of the Obama Administration after Gates following the tsunami. Gates quickly appoints him as Vice President.
*** - Succeeds President Hagel upon his assassination.
**** - Succeeds President Gordon upon his resignation after his defeat in the election.
*5 - Resigned
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September 2029

Towards the end of September, the House elects a new Speaker, Congressman Scott White of Washington.

Federal officials indict former President Aaron Schock later this month by Grand Jury.


October 2029

President Luetkemeyer nominates Governor Lisa Madigan of Illinois to be Vice President at the same time he nominates the rest of his cabinet. Most of his cabinet is confirmed by the Senate via voice vote.

November 2029

With hearings preceding the vote to confirm Governor Madigan as Vice President ongoing, President Luetkemeyer is hospitalized due to gastrointestinal problems. Some in the Senate call for a quick confirmation but others, more loyal to the new Speaker, drag their heels for a little longer.

Governor Lisa Madigan is confirmed as Vice President on December 8, 2029.

In December 2029, President Luetkemeyer signs into law a bill that would allow entry of the most heavily populated Canadian provinces into the United States and give Canadian citizens citizenship after they pledge allegiance to the US.

2030

To no one's surprise early in 2030 President Luetkemeyer passes away and Vice President Lisa Madigan is sworn in as the 53rd President of the United States and third female President of the United States.

President Madigan comes in with a low approval rating, somewhere around 38% with 10% disapproving right off the bat. Party preference for this years midterm elections already heavily favors the Patriot Party.

Popular former Vice President Gavin Newsom is rumored to be considering a run for the Presidency in 2032.

President Madigan immediately starts trying to reign in unemployment and inflation. Unemployment is better than it has been but still too high at 14%. Inflation sits around 15% and has plateaued.

President Madigan approves plans to incorporate Canada and Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico will become the 51st state with 7 electoral votes in January 2031  followed by...

Vancouver (February 2031), 3 Electoral Votes
British Columbia (March 2031), 8 Electoral Votes
Ontario(April 2031), 24 Electoral Votes
Alberta (May 2031), 8 Electoral Votes
Saskatchewan (June 2031) 5 Electoral Votes
Manitoba (July 2031)  4 Electoral Votes
New Brunswick (September 2031) 3 Electoral Votes
Nova Scotia (October 2031)  3 Electoral Votes

New Electoral Votes: 65
New Representatives: 47
New Senators: 18

Yukon, Nunavut, and Northwest Territories will remain territories.

The rebuilding effort on the east coast is increasing and by July 2030 unemployment has continued to fall. The American Party remains deeply unpopular and there are increasingly more public divides in the party with many pressuring President Madigan to pardon former President Schock who is on trial currently.

By November, the stage is set for devastating loses for the American Party in the midterm elections.

Senate (100 Seats):

American Party: 47 (-15)
Patriot Party: 41 (+8)
Independent: 12  (+7)

House of Representatives (492 Seats):

American Party: 156 (-184) (32%)
Patriot Party: 239 (+131) (49%)
Independent: 97 (+53) (20%)

Both Houses turn over to Patriot Caucus which is a collaboration of Patriot Party members and Independents.

2031

In January President Madigan signs into law very conservative fiscal policy reforms which the members of her party balk at.
Madigan's approval highest point is 45% but her average approval is around 40% still. Her disapprovals have gone up to match her approval rating. She has never come close to 50% on either. Her favorability is more not sure than positive or negative with many commentators calling her the next Phil Gordon.

As 2031 goes on, Madigan struggles to make her economic and social policies connect with people. Congress is running the show with the Patriot Caucus passing bold reforms in tax policy as well as devolving responsibilites the Federal government took away from the states during the catastrophe. The Patriot Party affiliated Speaker of the House claims "the time for crisis is over. It is time we stop looking backwards and look to future."

GDP grows at a higher rate than usual in 2031. Madigan hesitates to send armed forces to the border with Mexico as illegal immigrants continue crossing over. Both parties call for action but the only thing they're getting is an indecisive President. Turnover in the White House, in terms of senior advisors, is high with former advisors called working for Madigan like "working for a sloth."

What does happen under Madigan's watch is the continued reduction of dependence on oil, now at only a plurality of fuel with biomass, solar, wind, geothermal and nuclear energy taking up the rest of the chart.

Canada is successfully, and rather quietly, integrated into the United States. Internationally, Israel wins, once again, its independence this time with what is left of Egypt, and Turkey recognizing it. Syria has no formal government, Lebanon is controlled by Israel while Jordan and Iraq have frequent skirmishes on their border. India and Iran have gone to war over the occupation of Pakistan while China works to contain an insurgency within its own borders.

The Russian Federation has divided into new republics and Europe is fairly stable after the splitting of Spain and Italy, respectively.

Germany and Brazil are attempting to form a new United Nations. The US has no interest in joining.

2032

Former Vice President Gavin Newsom of California defeats his opposition for the Patriot Party nomination for President. He chooses Senator Primula Kyou of New York, of Japanese and English descent but born in Ohio, to be his running mate.

The American Party hesitantly nominates Lisa Madigan who chooses Congresswoman Christine Jaden of Wisconsin to be her running mate. Madigan had left the position of Vice President unfilled since Luetkemeyer's death.

A popular New Mexico Senator, Rudolf Julian, dismayed at the renomination of Lisa Madigan, leaves the American Party in early February 2032 along with 3 other Senators and 56 Representatives, to form the Progressive Party. He announces he will run for President with Governor Noele Ashton of North Carolina at his side.

Economic growth in 2032 continues, but President Madigan isn't the one getting credit --its the Patriot Party getting credit. Senator Julian says the policies of previous Presidents are to thank, not the Patriot Party Congress.




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Election 2032






Total Electoral Votes: 643
Magic Number: 322

Puerto Rico (7EV): Julian/Ashton


Former Vice President  Gavin Newsom of California / Senator Primula Kyou of New York, 361 Electoral Votes, 41.3% Popular Vote

Senator Rudolf Julian (New Mexico)/Governor Noele Ashton of North Carolina, 198 Electoral Votes, 36.2% Popular Vote

President Lisa Madigan of Illinois)/ Congresswoman Christine Jaden of Wisconsin, 84 Electoral Votes, 17.8% Popular Vote

Other: 4.7%

Gray = Territory
Pink = Quebec (Independent)


President Lisa Madigan becomes the second President in the history of the United States to be come in third place.

Senate (118 Seats):

American Party:  23  (-24)
Patriot Party: 51 (+10)
Progressive: 40 (New)
Independent: 4 (-8)

House of Representatives (539 Seats):

American Party: 45 (-111)          
Patriot Party:  280 (+41)
Progressive Party: 191 (New)
Independent:  23 (-74)

All pundits, across the board, say this election was an electoral realignment
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