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State Changes in 2004
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zachman
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Re:State Changes in 2004
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March 25, 2004, 09:44:27 pm »
Quote from: ian on March 25, 2004, 08:11:16 pm
My vote went to Florida, although I probably should have put "other" since Bush is screwing New Hampshire (with his environmental policies, which are destroying NH's lakes). Jeb can't screw the Democrats this time b/c we know the kind of bull that he pulls during his brother's election. We are going to win this time.
His environmental policies don't have any effect here. We tend to overestimate the power of the issues, while in effect it is not a single issue that can turn a vote. Bush is seen as a phony here in NH, who is pushing his own agenda. We are still pretty undecided on Kerry though.
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Re:State Changes in 2004
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March 25, 2004, 10:24:36 pm »
Quote from: ian on March 25, 2004, 08:19:05 pm
Quote from: hughento on March 22, 2004, 03:19:02 pm
I think FL is next because there could well be a massive turnout of ANGRY Floridian democrats this year.
No joke. I agree.
I've said it before on this forum, and I'll say it again: Florida will come down to turnout. The Panhandle Republicans will also come out en force. It's going to be very very interesting.
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A little beef...
WMS
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Re:State Changes in 2004
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March 25, 2004, 10:46:49 pm »
Quote from: Ben on March 25, 2004, 03:55:20 am
Quote from: WMS on March 24, 2004, 11:41:22 pm
-Richardson best among 18-34 year-olds (72% FAVORABLE); worst among 35-49 year-olds (55% FAVORABLE to 24% UNFAVORABLE)
Man, how many politicians would kill for numbers like that...
Wow...thats amazing... still dont think he should be on the ticket though and looks like he doesnt want to be either...
Yes, there are probably better choices for VP out there. And, after all Richardson's said about how he's not going to run in 2004, he would face a bit of a firestorm in NM if he left now. I read somewhere that he wouldn't turn down a job as Secretary of State in a Kerry Administration...
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Rococo4
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Re:State Changes in 2004
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March 25, 2004, 11:21:00 pm »
Ohio WILL NOT switch over in 2004. Ohio is a socially conservative state - it will outweigh any job loss. Kerry can not win Ohio.
Also: I have this talk of Bush only won Ohio in 2000 because Kerry pulled his money out. Well, when that happened, Bush withdrew alot as well. It was not as if Bush was campaigning around the state every day.
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opebo
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Re:State Changes in 2004
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March 26, 2004, 01:15:25 am »
Quote from: ian on March 25, 2004, 08:19:05 pm
Quote from: hughento on March 22, 2004, 03:19:02 pm
I think FL is next because there could well be a massive turnout of ANGRY Floridian democrats this year.
No joke. I agree.
Well, these supposed mass numbers didn't turn out against Jeb. I don't believe they exsist - Kerry will get the same votes Gore got in 2000 or less.
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angus
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Re:State Changes in 2004
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Quote from: angus on March 22, 2004, 01:58:51 pm
Given those choices: NEW MEXICO.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/23/politics/campaign/23ECON.html
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Sibboleth
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Re:State Changes in 2004
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March 26, 2004, 02:17:41 pm »
Quote from: Rococo4 on March 25, 2004, 11:21:00 pm
Ohio WILL NOT switch over in 2004. Ohio is a socially conservative state - it will outweigh any job loss. Kerry can not win Ohio.
Also: I have this talk of Bush only won Ohio in 2000 because Kerry pulled his money out. Well, when that happened, Bush withdrew alot as well. It was not as if Bush was campaigning around the state every day.
Ohio has picked the winner in every Presidential Election since 1964 (it went for Tricky Dicky in 1960).
Gore actually
gave up
on Ohio early on in the campaign... and Bush still didn't crack 50%
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Rococo4
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Re:State Changes in 2004
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March 26, 2004, 02:45:45 pm »
I meant Gore pulled out - not F. Kerry
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Miamiu1027
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April 16, 2004, 02:38:51 pm »
Quote from: ShapeShifter on April 16, 2004, 01:17:39 pm
bump.
Playing the vorlon, huh?
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ShapeShifter
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Re:State Changes in 2004
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April 16, 2004, 02:39:49 pm »
Quote from: Boss Tweed on April 16, 2004, 02:38:51 pm
Quote from: ShapeShifter on April 16, 2004, 01:17:39 pm
bump.
Playing the vorlon, huh?
No, actually someone started making new polls that were already cover, so I thought I would be nice to bump them back up.
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Miamiu1027
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Re:State Changes in 2004
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April 16, 2004, 02:41:30 pm »
Quote from: ShapeShifter on April 16, 2004, 02:39:49 pm
Quote from: Boss Tweed on April 16, 2004, 02:38:51 pm
Quote from: ShapeShifter on April 16, 2004, 01:17:39 pm
bump.
Playing the vorlon, huh?
No, actually someone started making new polls that were already cover, so I thought I would be nice to bump them back up.
Fair enough
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