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Wisconsin Senate Recall-a-palooza: 2012 Edition
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Seattle
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Re: Wisconsin Senate Recall-a-palooza: 2012 Edition
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Reply #675 on:
June 05, 2012, 11:35:40 pm »
It's now 45-55 (D-R) with 28/60.
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So it goes. heya.
Lief
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Re: Wisconsin Senate Recall-a-palooza: 2012 Edition
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Reply #676 on:
June 05, 2012, 11:46:10 pm »
The Democrat is running 3% better than he did in 2010 in SD-21 so far; he needs to do 2.55% to win the seat.
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Re: Wisconsin Senate Recall-a-palooza: 2012 Edition
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Reply #677 on:
June 06, 2012, 12:11:14 am »
The media coverage if Dems take the state senate will be quite interesting, given that the Republicans got all the positive spin early on.
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Lief
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Re: Wisconsin Senate Recall-a-palooza: 2012 Edition
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Reply #678 on:
June 06, 2012, 12:25:28 am »
new batch of votes came in, daily kos elections says:
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5th Update on SD-21: Lehman keeps floating around the cusp of where he needs to be, +2.4 now. There are 12 precincts left in the City of Racine for him, while there are 3 precincts left in Mt Pleasant and all of Waterford.
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Meeker
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Re: Wisconsin Senate Recall-a-palooza: 2012 Edition
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Reply #679 on:
June 06, 2012, 01:10:40 am »
We won! The Democrat is ahead by 900 votes with one precinct left.
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cinyc
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Re: Wisconsin Senate Recall-a-palooza: 2012 Edition
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Reply #680 on:
June 06, 2012, 01:16:34 am »
Quote from: Meeker on June 06, 2012, 01:10:40 am
We won! The Democrat is ahead by 900 votes with one precinct left.
It's not even close to over. I have the Democrat up by 796 votes with two precincts left. One of the precincts gave Walker a 800 vote margin in 2010... So...
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Meeker
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Re: Wisconsin Senate Recall-a-palooza: 2012 Edition
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Reply #681 on:
June 06, 2012, 01:19:06 am »
Quote from: cinyc on June 06, 2012, 01:16:34 am
Quote from: Meeker on June 06, 2012, 01:10:40 am
We won! The Democrat is ahead by 900 votes with one precinct left.
It's not even close to over. I have the Democrat up by 796 votes with two precincts left. One of the precincts gave Walker a 800 vote margin in 2010... So...
Local paper disagrees:
http://www.journaltimes.com/racine-county-recall-election-results/html_3bf1be68-ae8d-11e1-bcb9-001a4bcf887a.html
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Meeker
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Re: Wisconsin Senate Recall-a-palooza: 2012 Edition
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Reply #682 on:
June 06, 2012, 01:20:58 am »
Lehman and the DLCC have declared victory
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Lief
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Re: Wisconsin Senate Recall-a-palooza: 2012 Edition
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Reply #683 on:
June 06, 2012, 01:22:26 am »
Good news. Certainly complicates the narrative.
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greenforest32
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Re: Wisconsin Senate Recall-a-palooza: 2012 Edition
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Reply #684 on:
June 06, 2012, 01:26:20 am »
Didn't redistricting screw Democrats in the Wisconsin legislature? How likely are they to hold/gain chambers in Nov. 2012?
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Nichlemn
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Re: Wisconsin Senate Recall-a-palooza: 2012 Edition
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Reply #685 on:
June 06, 2012, 01:26:26 am »
Republicans could spin that they won all the other recalls and they have the bigger "mandate" because the whole state got to vote in the gubernatorial recall, as opposed to having to having to only play defense and succeed all the way for the state Senate.
What could Democratic control of the state Senate do at this point, though? Haven't the big ticket bills already been passed so all they can do is obstruct new things unless they can somehow bargain to undo what's been done?
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cinyc
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Re: Wisconsin Senate Recall-a-palooza: 2012 Edition
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Reply #686 on:
June 06, 2012, 01:28:16 am »
Quote from: Meeker on June 06, 2012, 01:19:06 am
Quote from: cinyc on June 06, 2012, 01:16:34 am
Quote from: Meeker on June 06, 2012, 01:10:40 am
We won! The Democrat is ahead by 900 votes with one precinct left.
It's not even close to over. I have the Democrat up by 796 votes with two precincts left. One of the precincts gave Walker a 800 vote margin in 2010... So...
Local paper disagrees:
http://www.journaltimes.com/racine-county-recall-election-results/html_3bf1be68-ae8d-11e1-bcb9-001a4bcf887a.html
825 doesn't equal 900 - and is closer to my 796 tally.
Anyway, if the missing precinct is the village of Waterford, it went to Walker by 854 and Kleefisch by 809 in this election. The results for the SD-21 race are still missing. Regardless of whether the margin is 796 or 825, it should be razor thin and go to absentees and a recount.
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ModerateCoward
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Re: Wisconsin Senate Recall-a-palooza: 2012 Edition
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Reply #687 on:
June 06, 2012, 01:28:21 am »
Walker can talk about his mandate all day now, but it doesn't matter, with 17 Democrats in the Senate until November and the upcoming trials, he will be playing defense this summer & fall.
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Senator North Carolina Yankee
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Re: Wisconsin Senate Recall-a-palooza: 2012 Edition
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Reply #688 on:
June 06, 2012, 01:32:30 am »
Quote from: greenforest32 on June 06, 2012, 01:26:20 am
Didn't redistricting screw Democrats in the Wisconsin legislature? How likely are they to hold/gain chambers in Nov. 2012?
Were it not for Randy Hopper's extracurricular activities, control of the State Senate would have never been put in doubt. The Republicans made it somewhat more Republican and they have a more suitable candidate for that.
I am not yet so sure about the Racine race, Cinyc knows his business on these things and declaring victory isn't always the safest indication of who won, but more so of who is more willing to fight tooth and nail if a potential recount gets bloody.
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Meeker
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Re: Wisconsin Senate Recall-a-palooza: 2012 Edition
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Reply #689 on:
June 06, 2012, 01:38:36 am »
Quote from: cinyc on June 06, 2012, 01:28:16 am
Quote from: Meeker on June 06, 2012, 01:19:06 am
Quote from: cinyc on June 06, 2012, 01:16:34 am
Quote from: Meeker on June 06, 2012, 01:10:40 am
We won! The Democrat is ahead by 900 votes with one precinct left.
It's not even close to over. I have the Democrat up by 796 votes with two precincts left. One of the precincts gave Walker a 800 vote margin in 2010... So...
Local paper disagrees:
http://www.journaltimes.com/racine-county-recall-election-results/html_3bf1be68-ae8d-11e1-bcb9-001a4bcf887a.html
825 doesn't equal 900 - and is closer to my 796 tally.
Anyway, if the missing precinct is the village of Waterford, it went to Walker by 854 and Kleefisch by 809 in this election. The results for the SD-21 race are still missing. Regardless of whether the margin is 796 or 825, it should be razor thin and go to absentees and a recount.
It's not in Waterford; it's a precinct in Mount Pleasent that Walker won by less than 100 votes in 2010 (933-853 to be exact).
Lehman will finish election night ahead by at least 650 votes.
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Meeker
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Democrats win Wisconsin State Senate
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Reply #690 on:
June 06, 2012, 01:43:33 am »
Final election night results from Racine County:
LEHMAN (D): 36,255
WANGGAARD (R): 35,476
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cinyc
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Re: Wisconsin Senate Recall-a-palooza: 2012 Edition
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Reply #691 on:
June 06, 2012, 01:45:52 am »
Quote from: Meeker on June 06, 2012, 01:38:36 am
Quote from: cinyc on June 06, 2012, 01:28:16 am
Quote from: Meeker on June 06, 2012, 01:19:06 am
Quote from: cinyc on June 06, 2012, 01:16:34 am
Quote from: Meeker on June 06, 2012, 01:10:40 am
We won! The Democrat is ahead by 900 votes with one precinct left.
It's not even close to over. I have the Democrat up by 796 votes with two precincts left. One of the precincts gave Walker a 800 vote margin in 2010... So...
Local paper disagrees:
http://www.journaltimes.com/racine-county-recall-election-results/html_3bf1be68-ae8d-11e1-bcb9-001a4bcf887a.html
825 doesn't equal 900 - and is closer to my 796 tally.
Anyway, if the missing precinct is the village of Waterford, it went to Walker by 854 and Kleefisch by 809 in this election. The results for the SD-21 race are still missing. Regardless of whether the margin is 796 or 825, it should be razor thin and go to absentees and a recount.
It's not in Waterford; it's a precinct in Mount Pleasent that Walker won by less than 100 votes in 2010 (933-853 to be exact).
Lehman will finish election night ahead by at least 650 votes.
I think Waterford isn't in SD-21, despite what Racine County Elections' website says. That would explain the discrepancy.
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ModerateCoward
seatown
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Re: Democrats win Wisconsin State Senate
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Reply #692 on:
June 06, 2012, 01:46:38 am »
Quote from: Meeker on June 06, 2012, 01:43:33 am
Final election night results from Racine County:
LEHMAN (D): 36,255
WANGGAARD (R): 35,476
Freedom Fighters
So I am guessing nothing destructive will happen in WI until November now, or will Democrats cross the floor?
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Meeker
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Re: Democrats win Wisconsin State Senate
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Reply #693 on:
June 06, 2012, 01:51:08 am »
Quote from: Senator Seatown on June 06, 2012, 01:46:38 am
Quote from: Meeker on June 06, 2012, 01:43:33 am
Final election night results from Racine County:
LEHMAN (D): 36,255
WANGGAARD (R): 35,476
Freedom Fighters
So I am guessing nothing destructive will happen in WI until November now, or will Democrats cross the floor?
No State Senate Democrat who wants any political future whatsoever will touch anything that comes out of Scott Walker's office.
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Nagas
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Re: Wisconsin Senate Recall-a-palooza: 2012 Edition
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Reply #694 on:
June 06, 2012, 01:57:55 am »
I expected the Walker win but I did not expect this. Well, this is good news.
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seatown
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Re: Democrats win Wisconsin State Senate
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Reply #695 on:
June 06, 2012, 01:58:49 am »
Quote from: Meeker on June 06, 2012, 01:51:08 am
Quote from: Senator Seatown on June 06, 2012, 01:46:38 am
Quote from: Meeker on June 06, 2012, 01:43:33 am
Final election night results from Racine County:
LEHMAN (D): 36,255
WANGGAARD (R): 35,476
Freedom Fighters
So I am guessing nothing destructive will happen in WI until November now, or will Democrats cross the floor?
No State Senate Democrat who wants any political future whatsoever will touch anything that comes out of Scott Walker's office.
Great, I was afraid there would be an old relic left over, a conservative blue-dog hidden in the ranks. Wisconsin will have 5 months to think about the job losses, the John Doe investigation, and overall divisiveness of the Walker administration without the 24/7 assault of the airwaves by right-wing PACs.
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Meeker
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Re: Democrats win Wisconsin State Senate
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Reply #696 on:
June 06, 2012, 02:17:47 am »
Quote from: Meeker on June 06, 2012, 01:51:08 am
Quote from: Senator Seatown on June 06, 2012, 01:46:38 am
Quote from: Meeker on June 06, 2012, 01:43:33 am
Final election night results from Racine County:
LEHMAN (D): 36,255
WANGGAARD (R): 35,476
Freedom Fighters
So I am guessing nothing destructive will happen in WI until November now, or will Democrats cross the floor?
No State Senate Democrat who wants any political future whatsoever will touch anything that comes out of Scott Walker's office.
Another way of looking at this is that the Democratic State Senate caucus now consists of the Wisconsin 14 (who left for Illinois in 2011 to stall the collective bargaining bill) and three recall winners. Pretty safely anti-Walker crew.
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ajc0918
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Re: Wisconsin Senate Recall-a-palooza: 2012 Edition
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Reply #697 on:
June 06, 2012, 02:30:14 am »
Well this certainly brightens things up just a bit.
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Re: Wisconsin Senate Recall-a-palooza: 2012 Edition
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Reply #698 on:
June 06, 2012, 03:07:10 am »
Quote from: ajc0918 on June 06, 2012, 02:30:14 am
Well this certainly brightens things up just a bit.
Honestly I think this is a pretty good outcome, we moved the goalposts to a Barrett win with that retarded exit poll, when we were actually expecting a narrow loss. The loss was a little more than narrow, but we still managed to block Walker's future agenda despite the amount of money poured into the state.
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jfern
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Re: Wisconsin Senate Recall-a-palooza: 2012 Edition
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Reply #699 on:
June 06, 2012, 03:32:51 am »
Here's an interesting thing about Prop. 29. So it's at 49.5%, and tends to be winning the more liberal counties (although it is losing in LA county), and losing in the red county. Except that it has 70% of the vote (fully reporting) in Tehama county, a 60% McCain county. I guess they just hate smoking there or something.
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