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« Reply #150 on: June 05, 2011, 04:19:23 PM »

Final result for the district of Leiria:
 
PPD/PSD 47% 116.872 votos 6 mandates (+2)
PS 20,71% 51.503 votos 3 mandates (-1)
CDS-PP 12,80% 31.819 votos 1 mandates (nc)
B.E. 5,37% 13.351 votos 0 mandates (-1)
PCP-PEV 4,97% 12.349 votos
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« Reply #151 on: June 05, 2011, 04:22:29 PM »

Final result for the district of the Açores:
 
PPD/PSD 47,36%42.784 votos 3 mandates (+1)
PS 25,67%23.195 votos 2 mandates (-1)
CDS-PP 12,11%10.944 votos
B.E. 4,39%3.966 votos
PCP-PEV 2,53%2.287 votos 
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« Reply #152 on: June 05, 2011, 04:25:47 PM »

In Madeira, as it's a safe place for PSD, many people go only to vote for another parties. In Açores, PS situation is bad. They hold regional government.
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« Reply #153 on: June 05, 2011, 04:32:15 PM »

In Madeira, as it's a safe place for PSD, many people go only to vote for another parties. In Açores, PS situation is bad. They hold regional government.

The Açores aren't so save for the PS. This islands are socially very conservative and in the early years after 1974 it was a save place for the PSD and CDS. Terrible is in this election that in the left places like Lisboa, Setúbal or Porto the PSD doing very well. The CDS got 2 mandates in Setúbal. This is like Vermont votes for Bush Tongue
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« Reply #154 on: June 05, 2011, 04:37:32 PM »

Final result for the district of Porto:
 
PPD/PSD 39,14% 388.650 votos 17 mandates (+5)
PS 32,03% 318.100 votos 14 mandates (-4)
CDS-PP 10% 99.338 votos 4 mandates (nc)
PCP-PEV 6,23% 61.819 votos 2 mandates (nc)
B.E. 5,13% 50.985 votos  2 mandates (-1)
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« Reply #155 on: June 05, 2011, 04:42:10 PM »

The only thing it's good, is that the fascists of the PNR have less than 0,4%. In Austria they would have 20% Grin
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« Reply #156 on: June 05, 2011, 04:47:13 PM »

I don't wait for the final result of Lisboa and Setúbal. I will go to bed. Good night to all and good night to Portugal.
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« Reply #157 on: June 05, 2011, 05:00:46 PM »

Setúbal results were already announced:
PS: 27,14%/5 seats (-2)
PSD: 25,15%/5 seats (+2)
CDU (PCP/PEV): 19,65%/4 seats (+1)
CDS/PP: 12,02%/2 seats (nc)
BE: 7,03%/1 seat (-1)
Only Lisbon and abroad seats weren't announced.
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« Reply #158 on: June 05, 2011, 05:35:02 PM »

And finally Lisbon
PSD: 34,1%/18 seats (+5)
PS: 27,53%/14 seats (-5)
CDS-PP: 13,78%/7 seats (+2)
CDU (PCP/PEV): 9,55%/5 seats (nc)
BE: 5,71%/3 seats (-2)
Final results (without 2 European and 2 Non-European seats):
PSD: 38,63% (+9,52%)/105 seats (+24)
PS: 28,05% (-8,51%)/73 seats (-24)
CDS-PP: 11,74% (+1,31%)/24 seats (+3)
CDU (PCP/PEV) (+0,08%): 7,94%/16 seats (+1)
BE: 5,19% (-4,62%) /8 seats (-8)
This majority will be the largest since 1991 (Cavaco Silva's PSD government).
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« Reply #159 on: June 06, 2011, 01:14:47 AM »
« Edited: June 06, 2011, 01:16:21 AM by Napoli e Milano libere ! »

The elections website says 38.63% for the PSD and 105 seats. So, it looks they don't have an absolute majority ?

And why did BE collapse that much ? It has only half of its 2009 seats.
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« Reply #160 on: June 06, 2011, 01:52:24 AM »

When you have small results in constituencies with few seats, comes a time when you have zero seat and waste all your votes.
I believe it's the case for BE: it has probably made its absolute decline even worse in terms of seats.
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« Reply #161 on: June 06, 2011, 05:16:39 AM »

When you have small results in constituencies with few seats, comes a time when you have zero seat and waste all your votes.
I believe it's the case for BE: it has probably made its absolute decline even worse in terms of seats.

Yeah, especially with the D'Hondt method... Meh.
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« Reply #162 on: June 06, 2011, 08:56:46 AM »

Bad, very bad, but I think we should have expected something like this.
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« Reply #163 on: June 06, 2011, 08:59:51 AM »

Results map for the city of Lisbon:



Anybody have ideas as to why São João de Brito and Alvalade are so strongly right-wing? Judging from Google Streetview, ugly high-rise dilapidated apartment blocks would seem to make this a PS stronghold, yet it is strongly PSD.
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« Reply #164 on: June 06, 2011, 09:43:22 AM »

Anybody have ideas as to why São João de Brito and Alvalade are so strongly right-wing? Judging from Google Streetview, ugly high-rise dilapidated apartment blocks would seem to make this a PS stronghold, yet it is strongly PSD.

In Alvalade and São João de Brito live no worker. There are many tall buildings there, but mostly there are very big apartments for High staff, lawyers, doctors, senior officials etc. In short, most who live there have money.
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« Reply #165 on: June 06, 2011, 09:51:16 AM »

The elections website says 38.63% for the PSD and 105 seats. So, it looks they don't have an absolute majority ?

And why did BE collapse that much ? It has only half of its 2009 seats.

The PSD is the winner and together with the CDS they will have a majority. The Portuguese election system is good for the biggest Party. In one election it is goo for the PSD and in the other it is good for the PS.

The B.E. have nearly the same result than 2005. They are on a normal Level again. 2009 there gave many Protest-voters who vote for them, but in this election they lose all of them.
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« Reply #166 on: June 06, 2011, 06:53:58 PM »
« Edited: June 06, 2011, 09:16:06 PM by Foucaulf »

When you have small results in constituencies with few seats, comes a time when you have zero seat and waste all your votes.
I believe it's the case for BE: it has probably made its absolute decline even worse in terms of seats.

Yeah, especially with the D'Hondt method... Meh.

This post inspired me to calculate elections results if Sainte-Laguë were used. I'll spare you the details, but the assembly will look as follows:

97 PSD (-8), 70 PS (-3), 26 CDS (+2), 20 PCP (+4), 12 BE (+4), 1 PAN (+1)
(Numbers in brackets note change from actual composition)

PSD/CDS coalition claims a majority of 8-12, depending on results of Portuguese abroad. The opposition gains six seats, though.
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« Reply #167 on: June 07, 2011, 12:15:50 PM »

Yeah, as I thought. D'Hondt is basically fake proportional.
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« Reply #168 on: June 15, 2011, 03:07:05 PM »

Not that is is very important, but now we have the result for the Portuguese living in Europe

PS 40,16% 7.204 votos 1 (nc)
PPD/PSD 29,61% 5.311 votos 1 (nc)
CDS-PP 5,54% 993 votos
PCP-PEV 4,48% 803 votos
B.E. 3,36% 602 votos
INVALID 12,05% 2.161 votos Shocked

Now we only wait for the result the rest of the world, but since it looks as if nothing changes.
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« Reply #169 on: June 16, 2011, 01:16:12 AM »

Hans, you are in this constituency right ? Smiley
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« Reply #170 on: June 16, 2011, 07:18:45 AM »


Yeah, that is my constituency Wink

Now we have the last result:

Rest of the World

PPD/PSD 55,05% 8.323 votos 2 mandates (nc)
PS 17,95% 2.714 votos 
CDS-PP 4,07% 615 votos
B.E. 1,09% 165 votos
PCP-PEV 0,84% 127 votos
INVALID 16,77% .536 votos Shocked



The Final Result:

PPD/PSD 38,65% 2.159.742 votos 108 mandates (+27)
PS 28,06% 1.568.168 votos 74 mandates (-23)
CDS-PP 11,70% 653.987 votos 24 mandates (+3)

PCP-PEV 7,91% 441.852 votos 16 mandates (+1)
B.E. 5,17% 288.973 votos 8 mandates (-8)
PCTP/MRPP 1,12% 62.683 votos

PAN 1,04% 57.849 votos
MPT 0,41% 22.690 votos
MEP 0,39% 21.936 votos

PNR 0,32% 17.742 votos
PTP 0,30% 16.811 votos
PPM 0,27% 15.081 votos

PND 0,21% 11.776 votos
PPV 0,15% 8.205 votos
POUS 0,08% 4.604 votos 

PDA 0,08% 4.532 votos 
P.H. 0,06% 3.590 votos
 
BLANK BALLOT 2,66% 148.378 votos
INVALID 1,43% 79.995 votos
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« Reply #171 on: June 16, 2011, 07:46:49 AM »

Where are the rest of the world voters from primarily? Brazil and the other former colonies? They seem to be a rather right wing lot.
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« Reply #172 on: June 16, 2011, 09:07:54 AM »

Where are the rest of the world voters from primarily? Brazil and the other former colonies? They seem to be a rather right wing lot.

They come mainly from the USA, Canada, South Africa and Brazil. The worst of then are the Portuguese from South Africa. They are all fascists.

Brazil:
PPD/PSD 55,07% 4.369 votos
PS 18,16% 1.441 votos
CDS-PP 2,48% 197 votos

Canada:
PPD/PSD 53,95% 1.141 votos
PS 24,59% 520 votos
CDS-PP 5,25% 111 votos
B.E. 1,37% 29 votos
PCP-PEV 1,28% 27 votos

USA:
PPD/PSD 56,80% 940 votos
PS 18,37% 304 votos
CDS-PP 6,53% 108 votos
B.E. 1,39% 23 votos
PCP-PEV 0,60% 10 votos

Rest of America and Africa (mainly South Africa)
PPD/PSD 64,24% 1.317 votos
PS 12,34% 253 votos
CDS-PP 5,85% 120 votos
PCP-PEV 1,07% 22 votos
B.E. 0,93% 19 votos

The turnout of the Portuguese in foreign countries is very low.
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« Reply #173 on: June 16, 2011, 09:20:46 AM »

Are the Portuguese in the rest of Europe mostly migrant workers as in Britain, or?
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« Reply #174 on: June 16, 2011, 09:29:39 AM »

Are the Portuguese in the rest of Europe mostly migrant workers as in Britain, or?

Correct. Not all, but in France, Switzerland, Germany and Luxembourg is the majority of the Portuguese worker. Outside Europe there are many from small business.
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