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« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2011, 12:28:29 AM »


Very likely, but I'm assuming Nebraska passes the law that would stop splitting votes by CD.
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« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2011, 12:34:59 AM »

If she won the nomination (which I give about an 0.1% chance to), I'd leave the party.


Why? The moderates had free reign of the pres nod amongst the GOP since 1988. Except for W they all lost. It's time for a conservative to lead. Not Mittens or his Ilk. Ron Paul/Michelle Bachamann 2012 would teapartyslide Obama back to Hawaii.

There's a BIG difference between local crackpots and when they hit the big time... they don't do that well... ask O'Donnell, Miller, Angle and Buck.

You really do live in fantasy land don't you?
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« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2011, 12:57:20 AM »

If she won the nomination (which I give about an 0.1% chance to), I'd leave the party.


Why? The moderates had free reign of the pres nod amongst the GOP since 1988. Except for W they all lost. It's time for a conservative to lead. Not Mittens or his Ilk. Ron Paul/Michelle Bachamann 2012 would teapartyslide Obama back to Hawaii.

There's a BIG difference between local crackpots and when they hit the big time... they don't do that well... ask O'Donnell, Miller, Angle and Buck.

You really do live in fantasy land don't you?


Ding Ding Ding.   
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« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2011, 01:01:48 AM »

Because I still have a 10 year old big TV, the upcoming GOP primary debates will be worth considering buying a new 50-inch flat TV, just to watch Bachmann bitch around with the other nuts like Palin, Huckabee, Santorum etc. Wink
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« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2011, 01:22:18 AM »

Don't you guys live in a fantasy land called a socialist utopia? We tried that under FDR and we don't want to be forced fed it anymore. Even FDR would join the tea party with Obama in charge.
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« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2011, 02:01:36 AM »

Don't you guys live in a fantasy land called a socialist utopia? We tried that under FDR and we don't want to be forced fed it anymore. Even FDR would join the tea party with Obama in charge.

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« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2011, 02:21:19 AM »

Don't you guys live in a fantasy land called a socialist utopia? We tried that under FDR and we don't want to be forced fed it anymore. Even FDR would join the tea party with Obama in charge.

When you call for investigations into the other side to see if they are anti-American you are bats*** crazy period.  Not to mention all the other crazy crap that has come out of that mouth.
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« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2011, 02:43:47 AM »

The crazies are beginning to announce. Excellent!
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« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2011, 02:45:41 AM »

The crazies are beginning to announce. Excellent!

She hasn't announced anything, but alright, word on the street was correct about Gingrich.
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« Reply #34 on: March 25, 2011, 04:00:44 AM »

If she won the nomination (which I give about an 0.1% chance to), I'd leave the party.


Why? The moderates had free reign of the pres nod amongst the GOP since 1988. Except for W they all lost. It's time for a conservative to lead. Not Mittens or his Ilk. Ron Paul/Michelle Bachamann 2012 would teapartyslide Obama back to Hawaii.

A conservative is fine.  But Bachmann is obnoxious and just plain wrong on so many issues.  She's a real life troll.
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« Reply #35 on: March 25, 2011, 10:04:13 AM »

Joking aside, Dave Weigel has a pretty good rundown on why a Bachmann candidacy might be much more serious than some people think.

http://www.slate.com/id/2289347/

Pollster and political guru Frank Luntz flew to Iowa last month to conduct a survey for Fox News. Twenty-six Republicans, likely to vote in the next caucuses, were shown video clips of 11 politicians who might run for president. They twisted dials, scored from 0 to 100, to rate the candidates. One of the clear winners was Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann.

"There's a very strong message that the people want us to hear," said Bachmann-on-video. "No.1, it is get rid of the big spending, which leads to big deficits, which kills jobs. And then No. 2, we don't want the federal government to control private industry or own private industry."

The Iowans couldn't twist their dials fast enough.
"She hit 90 at the end," said Sean Hannity. "Those are solid numbers for anybody."

Luntz explained that the voters liked Bachmann's talk about business and constitutional principles. "Sarah Palin came in with significant support," said Luntz. "But after these voters watched Michelle Bachmann, Palin's numbers came way down and Michelle Bachmann's numbers shot up."

The focus group pruned the field. Mitt Romney was dumped early, as was Mitch Daniels ("boring"), as was John Thune (this was before he withdrew from the race). They dumped Palin but kept Bachmann because "they thought that she was more direct and less polarizing," Luntz said. Bachmann was their third choice, right after Mike Huckabee and Newt Gingrich.

The moral of the story: Don't write off Michele Bachmann. Oh, the temptation is there. After CNN broke the news that the third-term representative was taking steps toward a presidential bid, Republican strategist Mike Murphy assured Time magazine readers that she was a kook: "As I tweeted a few weeks ago, Michele Bachmann makes Sarah Palin look like Count Metternich." It took mere hours for Fox News to locate one of her former chiefs of staff—her fifth—and confirm that he backed that other candidate from Minnesota, former Gov. Tim Pawlenty.

But how many votes does Mike Murphy have in Iowa? Early primary and caucus states are the places where the candidates who appeal to activists can catch fire, and where, if they're lucky, they can force the rest of the candidates to move closer to them. This is why Michele Bachmann can dramatically affect Republican politics in 2011 and 2012 if she commits to a run. Let us count the ways.

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« Reply #36 on: March 25, 2011, 12:43:08 PM »

Joking aside, Dave Weigel has a pretty good rundown on why a Bachmann candidacy might be much more serious than some people think.

http://www.slate.com/id/2289347/

Pollster and political guru Frank Luntz flew to Iowa last month to conduct a survey for Fox News. Twenty-six Republicans, likely to vote in the next caucuses, were shown video clips of 11 politicians who might run for president. They twisted dials, scored from 0 to 100, to rate the candidates. One of the clear winners was Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann.

"There's a very strong message that the people want us to hear," said Bachmann-on-video. "No.1, it is get rid of the big spending, which leads to big deficits, which kills jobs. And then No. 2, we don't want the federal government to control private industry or own private industry."

The Iowans couldn't twist their dials fast enough.
"She hit 90 at the end," said Sean Hannity. "Those are solid numbers for anybody."

Luntz explained that the voters liked Bachmann's talk about business and constitutional principles. "Sarah Palin came in with significant support," said Luntz. "But after these voters watched Michelle Bachmann, Palin's numbers came way down and Michelle Bachmann's numbers shot up."

The focus group pruned the field. Mitt Romney was dumped early, as was Mitch Daniels ("boring"), as was John Thune (this was before he withdrew from the race). They dumped Palin but kept Bachmann because "they thought that she was more direct and less polarizing," Luntz said. Bachmann was their third choice, right after Mike Huckabee and Newt Gingrich.

The moral of the story: Don't write off Michele Bachmann. Oh, the temptation is there. After CNN broke the news that the third-term representative was taking steps toward a presidential bid, Republican strategist Mike Murphy assured Time magazine readers that she was a kook: "As I tweeted a few weeks ago, Michele Bachmann makes Sarah Palin look like Count Metternich." It took mere hours for Fox News to locate one of her former chiefs of staff—her fifth—and confirm that he backed that other candidate from Minnesota, former Gov. Tim Pawlenty.

But how many votes does Mike Murphy have in Iowa? Early primary and caucus states are the places where the candidates who appeal to activists can catch fire, and where, if they're lucky, they can force the rest of the candidates to move closer to them. This is why Michele Bachmann can dramatically affect Republican politics in 2011 and 2012 if she commits to a run. Let us count the ways.

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And how long would this last once she underwent regular media scrutiny? People would soon learn exactly why she has that 1000 yard stare. "Less polarizing" is a label that couldn't stick to Bachmann with crazy glue.
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« Reply #37 on: March 25, 2011, 01:02:07 PM »

Don't you guys live in a fantasy land called a socialist utopia? We tried that under FDR and we don't want to be forced fed it anymore. Even FDR would join the tea party with Obama in charge.

The first act of 'socialist utopianism' of FDR was to back the banks, a good idea put off until almost too late in 1933 and quite possibly the reason that we haven't experienced 1933-style conditions.

So if you want to put your money where your mouth is, put your money into some unregulated investments, refuse to let Medicare pay for your medical treatments when you are old, and either reject Social Security or forward the payment to some cause that you consider worthy -- maybe donating it to some giant corporation as a grant?

I prefer to not be starved at the whim of some tycoon or corporate bureaucrat, and I prefer that old age not be a time of destitution.     
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« Reply #38 on: March 25, 2011, 08:17:10 PM »

With regards to Social Security, I will support any legislation allowing me or anyone my age and younger to opt out.
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« Reply #39 on: March 25, 2011, 09:07:05 PM »

With regards to Social Security, I will support any legislation allowing me or anyone my age and younger to opt out.

And I will sincerely pity you when you're 80 years old and have run through all your savings. The thing about retirement is that it is impossible to plan for. Nobody knows if they will die at 40 or 100. Nobody knows if they will need years of skilled nursing home care or will pass suddenly from a heart attack without the need for much costly care. And unless you go early in a freak accident, you will have years when you're wasting away and have no capacity to work.  The only way any of us (except for the absurdly wealthy) can have any kind of security in our declining years is to embrace a broad based defined pension system like Social Security. The only way to keep it is to demand it.
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