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« Reply #475 on: December 04, 2014, 01:42:26 pm »
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Ultimately 2014s losses led to the Democratic Party to nominate someone completely as far away from the Third Way as possible. Someone more economically populist who could cater to failing white vote, religious, while retaining minorities. This leads to the tapping of Governor Cuthbert "MormDem" Olson V of California

On the other end, the GOP nominate someone more progressive socially but a hard-liner on deficit hawkery. In the end, in the hopes of a 1964 rematch, they nominate Governor R. David Pryor of New Jersey.



Cuthbert "MormDem" Olson (D-CA)/Tim Kaine (D-VA): 322 EV, 52% PV
R. David Pryor (R-NJ)/Ron Johnson (R-WI): 216 EV, 48% PV

Ultimately, Morm Dem makes some in-roads in the South, but at the cost of more libertarian blue states such as New Hampshire,Maine, Colorado,Wisconsin or Oregon...but thanks to faith, he manages to make Utah the most competitive since LBJ won it in 1964.

The Northeast and Deep South remain as they are thanks to the VP picks that were more in-line with conventional platforms. For Olson,this meant the tapping of Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia, for Pryor, this meant the tapping of Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin.

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« Reply #476 on: December 04, 2014, 07:31:18 pm »
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Absolute Chaos: The 2016 Presidential Election



After intense primary fights for both parties, the more radical elements of the Democrats and Republicans both revolt. Tea Party Republicans are upset at Governor Bigby (R - GA) for his liberal views on social issues and foreign policy. As a result, Governor Mike Huckabee (R - AR) runs under a 3rd party naming themselves the "Conservative Party." Meanwhile, Senator MormDem (D - CA) wins a similar upset in the Democratic primary, but faces similar challenges from the far left in his party due to his socially conservative leanings and his religious affiliation. Senator Elizabeth Warren (D - MA) runs under the "Progressive Party" banner in response. On Election Day, both mainstream parties hold on surprisingly well, and even win in states they normally wouldn't due to the calamity of the election. However, no one achieves an electoral majority. Will MormDem or Bigby strike a deal together, or will someone reach out to Mike Huckabee first? Both chambers of Congress are Republicans, but many conservative Republicans have already pledged to not support Bigby, and several liberal Democrats have made the same vow against MormDem.

Governor Bigby (R - GA)/Congressman Justin Amash (R - MA): 255 EVs, 33.1% PV
Senator MormDem (R - CA)/Former Governor Bill Richardson (D - NM): 190 EVs, 34.2% PV
Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R - AR)/Former Congressman Allen West (R - FL): 50 EVs, 18.5% PV
Senator Elizabeth Warren (D - MA)/Governor Jerry Brown (D - CA): 43 EVs, 13.9% PV
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« Reply #477 on: December 05, 2014, 04:45:24 pm »
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US Presidential Election, 2044

Senator Bigby of Georgia is nominated by the Republican Party on the relatively libertarian platform which has become the party norm since the 2020s. He faces the Democratic Governor of Colorado, Yelnoc, who can also claim Georgia has his home state. Polling a year out suggests the race will be a close one, but a series of revelations relating Yelnoc's past politics, relationships, and drug use, contrasted to Bigby's "squeaky clean" record, serves to sink his candidacy.



Senator Bigby 54%
Governor Yelnoc 44%
Others 2%
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« Reply #478 on: December 05, 2014, 05:44:31 pm »
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US Presidential Democratic Primary, 2016

A very close battle ala 2008 grips the Democrats as two prominen candidates battle on mostly similar reforms.

Both candidates have skeletons in the closet though.

In the case of Harrison "MormDem" Reed of California, it is his religion, which causes skepticism and fear among the Jewish, Atheist, Asian, and young voters as well. It does however bring back some alienated farmers, Evangelicals, and draw in some socially more conservative Hispanics and  black people who though skeptical are drawn in to the economic "big government approach" that is decidedly seen as more helpful to the plight of the poor than the Third Way. However his astounding lack of scandal and teetotalling record brings back an image not seen since 1976.

On the other side is Governor Dave Yelnoc of Georgia who runs a more traditional liberal platform, and his record of pot using,along with a more charismatic personality ends up taking most minorities,youth and roughly splitting up the black vote. His use of "accountable government" also manages to woo some conservative voters wary of a MormDems nearly straight up New Deal like platform which is seen as "handouts"



Ultimately it is a battle of rural vs urban, with Yelnoc managing to squeak by thanks to Leftist hatred of devout Christianity combined with Centrist hatred of strict regulation, and a general attitude against pot control.


But most humiliating is the loss of Alameda County, CA to the opponent.
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« Reply #479 on: December 05, 2014, 05:57:19 pm »
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Governor Goldwater (R-NV) - 269 EVs
Senator MormDem (D-UT) - 269

Goldwater ends up winning the tied election because of the votes of the Republican controlled House.
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« Reply #480 on: December 05, 2014, 06:13:53 pm »
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Switch Oregon, Washington, Virginia, Ohio, Montana, Utah, Missouri, and Michigan and you've got it.

Pretty sure you still win that one soundly.
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« Reply #481 on: December 05, 2014, 06:43:09 pm »
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Switch Oregon, Washington, Virginia, Ohio, Montana, Utah, Missouri, and Michigan and you've got it.

Pretty sure you still win that one soundly.

Actually, you win 274-264



However, I don't see myself winning Michigan, and I've been under the impression that Montana was fairly libertarian*, so I don't see it being the first western state to flip to you. What about this?



292-246

*(by "libertarian" I mean less socially conservative than most Republican leaning states)
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« Reply #482 on: December 05, 2014, 06:54:15 pm »
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NCC 294 EVs
Goldwater 244EVs
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« Reply #483 on: December 05, 2014, 11:45:17 pm »
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@Goldwater: Okay okay, perhaps also flip New Jersey like this:



Which would mean, Goldwater 278 , MormDem 260

Montana elected Bullock and Schweitzer as Governors, the latter is at least kind of populist.

Anyway, against New Canadaland, I'm thinking, something like



MormDem (D-CA): 391 EV
New Canadaland (I-MN): 147 EV

Most of MormDem's losses are due to a faith-based phobia on the left, with a touch of want for a "more fiscally disciplined" government.
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« Reply #484 on: December 06, 2014, 02:12:39 am »
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I still don't see why I would win Michigan. If anything, I think would underperform in the Midwest/rust belt area, especially against a socially conservative Democrat. Here is how I see the best case scenario for me:


346-192

For comparison, here what I think your best case scenario is:



420-108

Basically, I think your ideology has more broad appeal than mine.

(And yes, I'm counting this as my post. Tongue)
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« Reply #485 on: December 08, 2014, 10:36:41 am »
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The 1930s were not kind to the Republican Party. The crushing defeat of Alf Landon in 1936, followed by the subsequent collapse of the GOP in the Congressional elections that followed put it in a position akin to the old Whig Party as the 1940s opened. The 1940 Presidential Election actually saw the Republicans back a fusion candidacy between themselves and a rising semi-fascist right-populist 'American Party', followed up in 1944 by the merger of both groups into the 'American Republican Party', which would ultimately be harassed into extinction by wartime FBI repression and the defection of many of its moderate members.

This created a huge vacuum in the American political spectrum. Since the mid-1930s, various left-wing third parties had grown in response to the depressed economic environment. Progressives in Wisconsin, Farmer-Laborites and the Socialist Workers Party in Minnesota and Iowa, the 'American Labor Party' in New York, Socialists in Connecticut, and of course the Communist Party in Washington had all made inroads during the dark years of the Depression. With the GOP falling into disarray, these forces converged, forming an electoral pact and announcing the formation of the Labor Party of the United States, with strong backing from both the CIO and the AF of L. The Labor Party tested itself in the 1940 election, coming in a strong third, but really won big in 1944, securing the second spot in part thanks to FBI suppression of the fascist-Republican Frankenstein.

In 1948, the issue is how the United States should be governed in the postwar period. Incumbent President Goldwater, a former Republican who joined the Democrats with his former parties' slip into fascist reaction, became President upon the death of Franklin Roosevelt in 1945. Since taking office, he has signed off on the Taft-Hartley Act (proposed by Democratic Senator Taft and Democratic Representative Hartley) to curtail the labor movement and has adopted an increasingly aggressive posture against the Soviet Union. He has likewise moved to implement a 'Red Scare' policy at home, adopting loyalty oaths for federal employees and purging the government of known communist sympathizers. Goldwater has selected as his running-mate New Deal populist MormDem of California, creating the first ever fully West Coast presidential ticket.

The Labor Party has selected Trotskyist militant TNF for the top spot. A meat-cutter by trade, TNF has spent most of the past four years in a prison cell, having been arrested as part of a general sweep of anti-war activists. His selection by the Labor Party is a signal that the LP has adopted an anti-Cold War posture, and the significance of selecting a Trotskyist also signifies a pronounced opposition to Stalinism itself. As his running mate, TNF has selected anti-segregation activist Yelnoc of Georgia, in hopes of balancing his ticket and maintaining party unity with the left social democrats that compromise the other half of the LP (of which Yelnoc is a member).



Pres. Goldwater of Washington and Rep. MormDem of California (Democratic Party): 325
Sen. TNF of Illinois and Rep. Yelnoc of Georgia (Labor Party): 206
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Pictured: Labor Chairman TNF celebrates his victory with newly-elected Senators Lief and SWE in a violent, Marxist-Leninist orgy.
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