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Topic: Canada 2011 Official Thread (Read 47624 times)
Teddy (IDS Legislator)
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Re: Canada 2011 Official Thread
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Reply #175 on:
April 09, 2011, 09:04:54 pm »
Quote from: Honest Abe on April 09, 2011, 02:04:38 pm
All these polls seem to confirm the Conservatives have an 8 to 10 point lead over the Liberals.
Is this an indication the Conservatives could possibly be in a good position to win a majority?
Thoughts?
National polls are meaningless in Canada, it all depends on where that support is coming from, and by that, I mean Ontario.
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Re: Canada 2011 Official Thread
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April 09, 2011, 11:07:28 pm »
Quote from: Comrade Sibboleth on April 09, 2011, 08:21:42 pm
Outremont: NDP 47%, Lib 27%, BQ 14%, Con 7%, Green 5%
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Re: Canada 2011 Official Thread
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April 09, 2011, 11:48:48 pm »
Quote from: Comrade Sibboleth on April 09, 2011, 08:21:42 pm
Two ridings in Montreal do have polls done of them:
Lac-Saint-Louis: Lib 46%, Con 26%, NDP 12%, Green 8%, BQ 7%
Outremont: NDP 47%, Lib 27%, BQ 14%, Con 7%, Green 5%
Obviously the record of constituency poll is bad just about everywhere, etc, etc, etc.
I'm not sure what makes you say that. We don't tend to see all that many riding polls in Canada - but when they are done - they tend to quite accurate.
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Re: Canada 2011 Official Thread
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April 10, 2011, 12:37:03 am »
Not really. There were a number a few years back showing the NDP leading in random Quebec ridings. They are only good so long as you add 10 points for fuzz.
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Re: Canada 2011 Official Thread
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Reply #179 on:
April 10, 2011, 07:10:07 am »
Quote from: DL on April 09, 2011, 11:48:48 pm
Quote from: Comrade Sibboleth on April 09, 2011, 08:21:42 pm
Two ridings in Montreal do have polls done of them:
Lac-Saint-Louis: Lib 46%, Con 26%, NDP 12%, Green 8%, BQ 7%
Outremont: NDP 47%, Lib 27%, BQ 14%, Con 7%, Green 5%
Obviously the record of constituency poll is bad just about everywhere, etc, etc, etc.
I'm not sure what makes you say that. We don't tend to see all that many riding polls in Canada - but when they are done - they tend to quite accurate.
Have a look at the slew of riding polls (mostly in QC) in 2008.
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Re: Canada 2011 Official Thread
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April 10, 2011, 01:31:51 pm »
Quote from: Hatman on April 08, 2011, 05:23:27 pm
What sort of Arabs are there in Ottawa South?
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Re: Canada 2011 Official Thread
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April 10, 2011, 02:06:14 pm »
Quote from: Harper=reactionary on April 10, 2011, 07:10:07 am
Quote from: DL on April 09, 2011, 11:48:48 pm
Quote from: Comrade Sibboleth on April 09, 2011, 08:21:42 pm
Two ridings in Montreal do have polls done of them:
Lac-Saint-Louis: Lib 46%, Con 26%, NDP 12%, Green 8%, BQ 7%
Outremont: NDP 47%, Lib 27%, BQ 14%, Con 7%, Green 5%
Obviously the record of constituency poll is bad just about everywhere, etc, etc, etc.
I'm not sure what makes you say that. We don't tend to see all that many riding polls in Canada - but when they are done - they tend to quite accurate.
Have a look at the slew of riding polls (mostly in QC) in 2008.
Voter preferences in Quebec may be more fluid than in the rest of Canada.
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Re: Canada 2011 Official Thread
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April 10, 2011, 02:30:07 pm »
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6322728
The US should follow suit and ensure that the Presidential and Vice Presidential debates don't interfere with the MLB playoffs
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Re: Canada 2011 Official Thread
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Reply #183 on:
April 10, 2011, 03:37:05 pm »
Quote from: Boris on April 10, 2011, 02:30:07 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6322728
The US should follow suit and ensure that the Presidential and Vice Presidential debates don't interfere with the MLB playoffs
You say that as if baseball was still our national sport. It's been gridiron football for a long time now. MLB is on par with the NBA these days, with the ratings for the finals between the two depending on what the matchup is.
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Re: Canada 2011 Official Thread
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Reply #184 on:
April 10, 2011, 03:57:26 pm »
Quote from: Boris on April 10, 2011, 02:30:07 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6322728
The US should follow suit and ensure that the Presidential and Vice Presidential debates don't interfere with the MLB playoffs
Didn't the Australian debate between Gillard and Abbott get moved last year because it interfered with Masterchef...?
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Reply #185 on:
April 10, 2011, 04:34:22 pm »
Quote from: Refudiate on April 10, 2011, 03:57:26 pm
Quote from: Boris on April 10, 2011, 02:30:07 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6322728
The US should follow suit and ensure that the Presidential and Vice Presidential debates don't interfere with the MLB playoffs
Didn't the Australian debate between Gillard and Abbott get moved last year because it interfered with Masterchef...?
Yes. Also, Obama's 2010 State of the Union was scheduled to avoid a conflict with the season premiere of Lost.
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Re: Canada 2011 Official Thread
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April 10, 2011, 06:36:11 pm »
Quote from: Χahar on April 10, 2011, 01:31:51 pm
Quote from: Hatman on April 08, 2011, 05:23:27 pm
What sort of Arabs are there in Ottawa South?
Lebanese, mostly. And, they've been here for a while. Think Paul Anka
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Re: Canada 2011 Official Thread
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April 10, 2011, 07:46:41 pm »
Does anyone know if the election will be on any channel in the US?
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Re: Canada 2011 Official Thread
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April 10, 2011, 08:00:06 pm »
Quote from: Howard K. Smith on April 10, 2011, 07:46:41 pm
Does anyone know if the election will be on any channel in the US?
News channels will probably mention the winner after results are declared; I suppose there might be more coverage in news markets that border Canada.
If you really want to watch election news live, though, I'd suggest you stream a Canadian news channel from their website.
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Re: Canada 2011 Official Thread
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April 10, 2011, 08:09:12 pm »
Quote from: Howard K. Smith on April 10, 2011, 07:46:41 pm
Does anyone know if the election will be on any channel in the US?
I watched it live on CSPAN 3 last go round... been planning to do the same this time. Let's hope.
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Re: Canada 2011 Official Thread
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April 10, 2011, 08:23:45 pm »
Quote from: The Man From G.O.P. on April 10, 2011, 08:09:12 pm
Quote from: Howard K. Smith on April 10, 2011, 07:46:41 pm
Does anyone know if the election will be on any channel in the US?
I watched it live on CSPAN 3 last go round... been planning to do the same this time. Let's hope.
C-SPAN has also shown the debates in the past, or at least the English one - though perhaps tape-delayed. The English language debate is this Tuesday. The French language debate has been moved up to Wednesday to avoid a conflict with a Montreal Canadiens playoff game on Thursday. If C-SPAN does not show the debate, it will likely be streamed on cpac.ca, Canada's C-SPAN equivalent.
IIRC, CPAC has streamed its election night coverage in the past. But I can't remember when it began, since it's illegal to release results from eastern Canada in provinces where polling is still ongoing.
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Re: Canada 2011 Official Thread
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April 10, 2011, 08:42:50 pm »
Today's Nanos:
Conservative
39.5%
-1.0
Liberal
31.6%
-0.1
NDP
14.7%
+1.5
BQ
8.1%
-1.1
Green
4.8%
+0.8
(3 days ending April 9)
Trends are from yesterday, which I forgot to post - though I guess you can easily figure it out from the trend. The race has tightened in Ontario - which may be all that really matters on election day.
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Re: Canada 2011 Official Thread
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Reply #192 on:
April 11, 2011, 07:14:39 am »
CPAC will have free Internet coverage, CBC, and likely CTV will too.
As the above poster said, it is illegal to broadcast results until after the final polls close.
Elections Canada, the official election agency (the ones who count the ballots) will also have live streaming results but no TV or Radio style coverage
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Re: Canada 2011 Official Thread
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Reply #193 on:
April 11, 2011, 08:08:24 am »
Quote from: TheNewTeddy on April 09, 2011, 09:04:54 pm
Quote from: Honest Abe on April 09, 2011, 02:04:38 pm
All these polls seem to confirm the Conservatives have an 8 to 10 point lead over the Liberals.
Is this an indication the Conservatives could possibly be in a good position to win a majority?
Thoughts?
National polls are meaningless in Canada, it all depends on where that support is coming from, and by that, I mean Ontario.
What matters are swing districts, and while Ontario has an above-average number of them, it by no means has all of them.
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Re: Canada 2011 Official Thread
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April 11, 2011, 12:22:20 pm »
Quote from: TheNewTeddy on April 11, 2011, 07:14:39 am
CPAC will have free Internet coverage, CBC, and likely CTV will too.
As the above poster said, it is illegal to broadcast results until after the final polls close.
Elections Canada, the official election agency (the ones who count the ballots) will also have live streaming results but no TV or Radio style coverage
It's legal for, say, ATV in the Atlantic Provinces to broadcast results to the Maritimes after the polls close there. It would be illegal for them to broadcast results to B.C. or Ontario, where the polls would still be open. I always wonder whether this means the cable and satellite companies have to black out the time-shift TV stations out West for the night.
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April 11, 2011, 12:25:35 pm »
Today's Nanos - a wild swing to Tories and Dippers:
Conservative
41.2%
+1.7
Liberal
30.4%
-1.2
NDP
15.2%
+0.5
BQ
7.8%
-0.3
Green
4.6%
-0.2
(3 days ending April 10)
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Re: Canada 2011 Official Thread
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April 11, 2011, 12:53:44 pm »
Even after the wild swing to the NDP, they are still doing worse than in other polls. I'm guessing that they're really at ~18% right now.
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April 11, 2011, 05:43:29 pm »
Combination of a pro-Tory sample coming on and a pro-Grit sample dropping off?
Actually, been a bit of a rollarcoaster ride for the Tories these past couple of days, down 1, then up 1.7... Something seems a bit off, a rogue poll in the mix, perhaps? I note the NDP up two points across the past two days. Were they perhaps under-estimated in earlier polls or is there something of a resurgence for them?
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I suspect they just picked up a duff sample. Happens.
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Re: Canada 2011 Official Thread
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These are some of the lowest BQ numbers I've ever seen!
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