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« on: April 17, 2011, 01:22:53 pm »
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What cities have precincts that meet this criteria?

As stated elsewhere, the first place I noticed this was of all places Des Moines, Iowa. St. Paul has a large cluster of precincts that meet the criteria, making up almost a 1/3 of the city's population together. Other places I'd expect to have such precincts include San Francisco and maybe some other Bay Area city, Los Angeles, NYC and maybe Honolulu if it has any areas of concentrated black population. What places can be confirmed?
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2011, 01:27:28 pm »
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You're quite right about the Bay. I know there are some in Oakland and probably a few in Vallejo too as that city is almost a 25-25-25-25 split.
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2011, 01:54:50 pm »
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Houston's pretty close (Asians are at 6%, everything else is over 20%).

Arlington (VA) is also pretty close, with 9.52% Asian and 8.23% Black

In most cities though, its going to be the Asian pop thats not high enough.  They're still less than 5% of the total population after all, and heavily concentrated in California.
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2011, 03:23:09 pm »
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Nicer neighborhoods in Pomona have those sorts of racial breakdowns (Philips Ranch area can be seen even with the current 2010 data on dave's app IIRC). There are just too many areas in California to name that have double digit percentages for Whites, Hispanics and Asians. It's just tough to find precincts that also have a high Black population. One factor is that California's black population is only 6% and going down even further. So basically the only places that meets the criteria are inland cities like Pomona, Rancho Cucamonga, Monrovia and Duarte. The problem with going too inland is that the quality of schools falls and the Asian population along with it.

In the bay area the places to check out would be the east bay from Hayward on north through to Vallejo and Fairfield. Most precincts here already will have double digit Asian, Hispanic and White residents, it's just a matter of finding the precincts with also a high enough Black population. Also a few places in San Joaquin County like parts of West Tracy and Stockton are likely to have these characteristics. Impossible to tell from the app though.
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2011, 03:26:55 pm »
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There are a lot of precincts like this in NoVa. Most of them are inside the beltway, but you can find some out in Prince William County along the water. I think that's the only place in Virginia you can find them; we have some that come close here in Virginia Beach, but not quite. And we seem to be the only place outside of NoVa that has any significant concentration of Asians.
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2011, 03:48:41 pm »
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Possibly in Jersey City.
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2011, 05:53:14 pm »
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Possibly in Jersey City.

Never mind precincts, the entire city of Jersey City is 21.5% White, 23.9% Black, 27.6% Hispanic, and 24.9% Asian. Hell, even Hudson County even fits at 30.8% White, 11.2% Black, 42.2% Hispanic, and 13.2% Asian.
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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2011, 05:57:32 pm »
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Jersey City easily wins the "most diverse city" contest. Even Oakland isn't close.

Boston, maybe? Not sure if it makes 10% Asian, but it might--lots of colleges and a substantial Chinatown. Edit: No, 8.9% Asian in Boston. Close. I'm sure there is a precinct that meets the criteria, though; I was just looking for a city as a whole. Edit2: Found at least four precincts in Boston meeting the criteria, two in the South End and two in Jamaica Plain. The two in the South End are very diverse, only one of the races below 20% (blacks in one, Asians in the other).

Edit3: And found five more in Dorchester in Boston. So at least nine precincts in Boston that meet the criteria, including the UMass-Boston precinct. There is also one in Cambridge, MA and at least five in Malden, MA.

Another possibility is New Brunswick, NJ. Don't have the 2010 Census data; it was only 6% Asian in 2000, but the Asian population has been exploding around there.

Edit4: Yup, at least five in New Brunswick, and two more across the river in Highland Park, NJ, as well as two at least in Franklin Twp, NJ in Somerset County. And a bunch in Edison, Piscataway, etc. it looks like.

There are also two in my hometown of Englewood, NJ.
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2011, 06:40:30 pm »
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Just because a city at large meets the criteria doesn't mean necessarily any precincts in it do. You could theoretically have a very segregated city with large populations of all four groups but concentrated all in different areas. For example I doubt there's any precinct in Chicago or Milwaukee that is very close to the city at large's demographic makeup.
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2011, 07:16:44 pm »
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Just because a city at large meets the criteria doesn't mean necessarily any precincts in it do. You could theoretically have a very segregated city with large populations of all four groups but concentrated all in different areas. For example I doubt there's any precinct in Chicago or Milwaukee that is very close to the city at large's demographic makeup.

Point taken. Here's a look at Jersey City, then. Green precincts qualify, red precints don't.

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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2011, 08:12:56 pm »
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Places in San Francisco that qualify are highlighted in red.
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2011, 08:27:43 pm »
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Does anything come close with Native American as one of the races? I know Robeson County, NC is about 33-33-33 of whites, blacks, and natives.
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2011, 08:27:53 pm »
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Memphis has a precinct that would qualify if it just had a few more Asians:

Memphis 03300 (near East Parkway and Poplar - Binghampton)
Black: 43%
White: 33%
Hispanic: 13%
Asian: 7%

Fun fact of the day -- the local Republican Party office is in this precinct Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2011, 08:40:26 pm »
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A lot of California cities fall short on the Black population. Though there would be a good amount in Alameda and Los Angeles county that could meet the criteria.

Fresno is at 8% black but otherwise is close.

White Non-Hispanic: 33.6%
White Hispanic: 19.7% (this is likely still mostly Mestizo's but with more Spainard than Native American ancestry)
Hispanics of all other races: 24.9%
Black or African American: 8.0%
Asian: 11.6%

San Diego again has the same problem.

White alone - 47.1%
Hispanic - 28.6%
Asian alone - 14.2%
Black alone - 6.3%

Duarte (in LA County is close)

Hispanic - 50.5%
White alone - 27.1%
Asian alone - 11.9%
Black alone - 8.8%

Long Beach (in LA County) is a winner
  
Hispanic - 41.1%
White alone - 29.2%
Black alone - 13.6%
Asian alone - 11.6%

Pasadena (in LA County) is a winner

White alone - 39.2%
Hispanic - 34.1%
Asian alone - 12.3%
Black alone - 11.0

West Covina (in LA County) is again close
Hispanic - 53.7%
Asian alone - 24.1%
White alone - 14.8%
 Black alone - 5.3%

Pomona (in LA County) is almost there
Hispanic - 68.0%
White alone - 12.4%
Black alone - 9.6%
Asian alone - 8.4%

Arcadia (in LA County) is lol

Asian alone - 54.7%
White alone - 30.2%
Hispanic - 11.9%
Black alone - 0.9%

Alhambra (in LA County) is like Arcadia
Asian alone - 49.6%
Hispanic - 36.7%
White alone - 11.6%
Black alone - 1.4%

Diamond Bar (in LA County) is similar too
Asian alone - 50.2%
White alone - 24.4%
Hispanic - 19.6%
Black alone - 3.5%

Temple City (in La County) ditto
Asian alone - 52.1%
White alone - 28.3%
Hispanic - 17.5%
Black alone -0.6%

Rosemead (in LA County) ditto
Asian alone - 57.9%
Hispanic - 34.0%
White alone - 6.1%
Black alone - 0.6%

I must stop and ask... do Asian majority areas cause Black flight?
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2011, 09:08:10 pm »
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There should be a ton of precincts within Sacramento County that should qualify. The whole county itself qualifies as well as the cities of Sacramento and Elk Grove.
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« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2011, 09:14:29 pm »
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I must stop and ask... do Asian majority areas cause Black flight?


Were there a lot of Blacks there before? Plus Asian majority areas tend to have very inflated house prices. Look at the average price of a house in Arcadia and compare it to everywhere around it. And Asians will do anything to move there to get the school district. Blacks are more concerned about finding a safe neighborhood where they can get a bigger place. Generally speaking obviously.
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« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2011, 09:28:23 pm »
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I must stop and ask... do Asian majority areas cause Black flight?


Were there a lot of Blacks there before? Plus Asian majority areas tend to have very inflated house prices. Look at the average price of a house in Arcadia and compare it to everywhere around it. And Asians will do anything to move there to get the school district. Blacks are more concerned about finding a safe neighborhood where they can get a bigger place. Generally speaking obviously.

I guess the curiosity is more at the extent of it and if not 'flight' but 'repelled'. Of the cities I did, only in Diamond Bar does the black population exceed 1.5%.

Even Beverly Hills has a higher black % than the Asian majority cities.
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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2011, 09:39:26 pm »
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And Diamond Bar has much lower housing prices than the other cities you listed, mostly because they are closer to LA. It is still higher than it's surrounding areas like Pomona or Chino, but it's not unreasonable and the community is very nice with very low crime and excellent schools.

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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2011, 09:42:42 pm »
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Does anything come close with Native American as one of the races? I know Robeson County, NC is about 33-33-33 of whites, blacks, and natives.

Minneapolis has a heavily Native area, the Little Earth neighborhood which is basically a Reservation stuck in the middle of the city (as Lewis said "Minneapolis is just that cool.") It borders some heavily black and Hispanic areas. I should check it out.
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« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2011, 09:49:13 pm »
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Minneapolis does have such a precinct. 9-4 is 16.1% white, 20% black, 33.5% Hispanic and 23.3% Native. Also nearby 6-6 is 17.8% white, 41.2% black, 27.1% Hispanic and 7.8% Native.
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« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2011, 11:16:00 pm »
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I must stop and ask... do Asian majority areas cause Black flight?


I was checking out some areas nearby Arcadia which have a high hispanic population like Baldwin park and El Monte. Both those places have below 1% Black populations.
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« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2011, 01:30:24 am »
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Tons of cities around the bay area.
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« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2011, 02:06:27 am »
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29 precincts in Gwinnett County, GA (all but one are contiguous)
5 precincts in Clayton County, GA.
4 precincts in Dekalb County, GA.
5 precincts in Fulton County, GA (4 in the north, 1 in Atlanta)
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« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2011, 06:43:27 am »
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What cities have precincts that meet this criteria?

As stated elsewhere, the first place I noticed this was of all places Des Moines, Iowa. St. Paul has a large cluster of precincts that meet the criteria, making up almost a 1/3 of the city's population together. Other places I'd expect to have such precincts include San Francisco and maybe some other Bay Area city, Los Angeles, NYC and maybe Honolulu if it has any areas of concentrated black population. What places can be confirmed?

10% is really too low of a threshold.

There are 11 in Travis, and 8 in Denton.  Too many to count in Harris.

Precinct 620 in west Houston: 34% Anglo, 22% Hispanic, 22% Black, 21% Asian.

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« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2011, 11:17:35 am »
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Does anything come close with Native American as one of the races? I know Robeson County, NC is about 33-33-33 of whites, blacks, and natives.
Robeson county is 38 native 27 white 24 black and 8 hispanic, but there are a bunch of precincts within where all 4 are over 10%.
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