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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
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Teddy's Electoral Reform (Electoral College)
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Changes
Ballot:
The ballot would be an alternative vote. Candidates will be ranked 1, 2, 3, 4 etc. A minimum of 1 and 2 must be cast. This would be a federal law applying to all states, states can then design their ballots as needed.
Numbers:
The number of electoral college votes must always be an odd number to prevent ties.
Counting:
If a candidate does not win electoral votes in a state, then his or her ballots are redistributed, until the only ballots left are cast for candidates winning electoral votes.
In the event of someone not getting a majority of electoral votes, the candidate with the least nationwide (ties to be broken by nationwide popular vote) is dropped, and the counting continues as such.
The electoral college is based on the number of seats in the house and senate. 2 for the senate, and a number between 1 and 50something for the house. This will become important in the new election method system.
The first-place winner of the state wins both "senatorial" electoral college votes.
The remaining electoral votes are distributed proportionally to the vote received by each candidate.
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
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Re: Teddy's Electoral Reform (Electoral College)
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April 21, 2011, 09:01:22 am »
Example using 2008 (selected states)
Alaska. Winner: McCain
(2) - McCain for winning the state
(1) - McCain, proportional share of total
RESULT: 3 McCain
Utah. Winner: McCain
(2) - McCain for winning the state
(2) - McCain, proportional share of total
(1) - Obama, proportional share of total
RESULTS: 4 McCain - 1 Obama
California. Winner: Obama
(2) - Obama for winning the state
(33) - Obama, proportional share of total
(20) - McCain, proportional share of total
RESULTS: 35 Obama - 20 McCain
etc etc
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Re: Teddy's Electoral Reform (Electoral College)
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April 21, 2011, 09:53:58 am »
There are a few problems I see with this (the big one is simply just to ask why not just switch to a national popular vote system...)
Look at
Maine, 1992
. With only 316 votes separating Bush and Perot, it would hardly seem fair that Perot get an EV but not Bush (and also that 3/4 EVs go to Clinton with less than 40% of the vote).
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Re: Teddy's Electoral Reform (Electoral College)
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April 21, 2011, 02:07:28 pm »
Interestingly, this would not change the outcome of the 2000 election:
Alabama
Bush: 6
Gore: 3
Alaska
Bush: 3
Arizona
Bush: 5
Gore: 3
Arkansas
Bush: 4
Gore: 2
California
Gore: 30
Bush: 22
Nader: 2
Colorado
Bush: 5
Gore: 3
Connecticut
Gore: 6
Bush: 2
Delaware
Gore: 3
DC
Gore: 3
Florida
Bush: 13
Gore: 11
Nader: 1
Georgia
Bush: 8
Gore: 5
Hawaii
Gore: 3
Bush: 1
Idaho
Bush: 3
Gore: 1
Illinois
Gore: 13
Bush: 9
Indiana
Bush: 8
Gore: 4
Iowa
Gore: 5
Bush: 2
Kansas
Bush: 4
Gore: 2
Kentucky
Bush: 5
Gore: 3
Louisiana
Bush: 6
Gore: 3
Maine
Gore: 3
Bush: 1
Maryland
Gore: 7
Bush: 3
Massachusetts
Gore: 8
Bush: 3
Nader: 1
Michigan:
Gore: 10
Bush: 8
Minnesota
Gore: 6
Bush: 4
Mississippi
Bush: 5
Gore: 2
Missouri
Bush: 7
Gore: 4
Montana
Bush: 3
Nebraska
Bush: 4
Gore: 1
Nevada
Bush: 3
Gore: 1
New Hampshire
Bush: 3
Gore: 1
New Jersey
Gore: 9
Bush: 5
Nader: 1
New Mexico
Gore: 4
Bush: 1
New York
Gore: 21
Bush: 11
Nader: 1
North Carolina
Bush: 9
Gore: 5
North Dakota
Bush: 3
Ohio
Bush: 12
Gore: 9
Oklahoma
Bush: 6
Gore: 2
Oregon
Gore: 5
Bush: 2
Pennsylvania
Gore: 13
Bush: 10
Rhode Island
Gore: 3
Bush: 1
South Carolina
Bush: 5
Gore: 3
South Dakota
Bush: 3
Tennessee
Bush: 7
Gore: 4
Texas
Bush: 20
Gore: 11
Nader: 1
Utah
Bush: 4
Gore: 1
Vermont
Gore: 3
Virginia
Bush: 8
Gore: 5
Washington
Gore: 7
Bush: 4
West Virginia
Bush: 4
Gore: 1
Wisconsin
Gore: 6
Bush: 4
Nader: 1
Wyoming
Bush: 3
Total
Bush: 272
Gore: 258
Nader: 8
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Re: Teddy's Electoral Reform (Electoral College)
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April 22, 2011, 05:24:23 am »
Makes sense, though I'd add a high threshold to access proportional seats (around 15% or so) in order to avoid vote dispersion and ensure an electoral majority.
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Re: Teddy's Electoral Reform (Electoral College)
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August 31, 2011, 11:52:08 am »
I would favor an Electoral College with small multi-member districts allocating Electors. Hopefully, districts of 3-5 EV would be the idea.
A three-EV district would elect all 3 Electors at-large; a four-EV district would elect 2 Electors at-large and 2 per district; a five-EV district would elect 2 Electors at-large and 3 per district.
For example, California has 55 EV. It could have 5 3-seat districts, 5 4-seat districts and 4 5-seat districts.
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
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Re: Teddy's Electoral Reform (Electoral College)
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August 31, 2011, 03:18:01 pm »
Still leaves the door open to gerrymandering.
Quote from: Senator Antonio V on April 22, 2011, 05:24:23 am
Makes sense, though I'd add a high threshold to access proportional seats (around 15% or so) in order to avoid vote dispersion and ensure an electoral majority.
X / Y = Z
X = "House" Electoral Votes (436)
Y = "States" (51)
Z = 8.55 round = 9
There are thus on average, 9 proportional seats in every state.
100 / 9 = 11.11%
Thus the threshold should be 11.11%
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Re: Teddy's Electoral Reform (Electoral College)
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Reply #7 on:
September 04, 2011, 03:28:47 pm »
Here's a proposal I came up with the other day.
It would mean that the set of candidates with the most votes wins. Nothing to do with VPs. If say a set with only 1 candidate wins, that candidate wins all the EV at stake. If a set with 2 candidates wins, those candidates split the EV equally.
The following sets face each other:
For example, 1992 Presidential Elections:
Clinton vs. Bush vs. Perot vs. Clinton-Bush vs. Clinton-Perot vs. Bush-Clinton vs. Bush-Perot vs. Perot-Clinton vs. Perot-Bush.
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