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« on: April 23, 2011, 08:16:56 PM »

A far right president or a far left president? Basically in the style of Dennis Kucinich for the left  and Pat Buchanan for the right, not in the Mussolini and Hugo Chavez sense of the world. If say a election like this ever happened in the United States of America, the edge will go to the far right president. Someone like Kucinich(who I love!) will have trouble with middle america from his hippie like views to MSM bashing him to no end to believing in UFO's. However, both choices will never happen in the future.
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2011, 08:33:28 PM »

Dennis Kucinich or Pat Buchanan?  Never.  I can say that with 100% certainty.

Well, eventually when there's an economic collapse we'll either get a Buchananite, a libertarian, or a Stalinist.
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2011, 10:16:48 PM »

Dennis Kucinich or Pat Buchanan?  Never.  I can say that with 100% certainty.

Well, eventually when there's an economic collapse we'll either get a Buchananite, a libertarian, or a Stalinist.


A Stalinlist  being elected in the land of where 'socialism" is a bad word? Never will happen either, just like Dennis and Pat will never be elected to the White House. I can say that with 100% certainty.
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2011, 08:14:47 AM »

a far-right candidate may be elected someday. a socialist/communist can't win in the USA.
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2011, 02:36:19 PM »

a far-right candidate may be elected someday. a socialist/communist can't win in the USA.


Maybe when the old already dead and the young people that don't have hostile to socialism/communism would make a socialist/communist do better then they would in say 1960.
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2011, 03:11:57 PM »

A socialist can't win in the USA? Ever hear of Woodrow Wilson, FDR, LBJ, or Barack Obama? And we would have elected Hillary had she been nominated in '08.
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2011, 04:08:03 PM »

A socialist can't win in the USA? Ever hear of Woodrow Wilson, FDR, LBJ, or Barack Obama? And we would have elected Hillary had she been nominated in '08.


Wilson, FDR, LBJ, and Obama are not socialists. Obama is a Bill Clinton dem, Wilson was Dixiecrat, LBJ and FDR were social democracy presidents.
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2011, 04:12:46 PM »

A socialist can't win in the USA? Ever hear of Woodrow Wilson, FDR, LBJ, or Barack Obama? And we would have elected Hillary had she been nominated in '08.

you consider them socialist??? you don't know what a socialist is, my friend!!! come here to spain, and I'll show you what do spanish socialists think about those president. If LBJ is a socialist, Felipe Gonzalez is Mao Jr., and if Woodrow Wilson is a socialist, I'm anarchist! Obama and Carter may be social-democrats... but they're still conservative capitalists for socialist people. My History teacher says the USA hasn't elected a centrist or leftist president yet. And he is only a "socialdemocrat".
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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2011, 06:58:41 PM »

A far-right (in the american sense) candidate should take control pretty easily in the current climate, if Obama is reelected then a far-left (in the american sense) candidate should again have executive control.
P.S. When I say " In the american sense", I mean that a far-right candidate would be like Sarah Palin and a far-left like Obama or George Soros.
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2011, 01:46:07 PM »

A far-right (in the american sense) candidate should take control pretty easily in the current climate, if Obama is reelected then a far-left (in the american sense) candidate should again have executive control.
P.S. When I say " In the american sense", I mean that a far-right candidate would be like Sarah Palin and a far-left like Obama or George Soros.


Obama is not far-left. If talking in American sense it would Ralph Nader and Cynthia McKinley.
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2011, 01:49:34 PM »

A far-right (in the american sense) candidate should take control pretty easily in the current climate, if Obama is reelected then a far-left (in the american sense) candidate should again have executive control.
P.S. When I say " In the american sense", I mean that a far-right candidate would be like Sarah Palin and a far-left like Obama or George Soros.

If Obama is far-left, what is Kucinich? And Chavez?
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2011, 04:05:56 PM »

These threads inevitably end in massive facepalms.
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2011, 08:47:31 PM »

A socialist can't win in the USA? Ever hear of Woodrow Wilson, FDR, LBJ, or Barack Obama? And we would have elected Hillary had she been nominated in '08.

What the hell makes Woodrow Wilson, FDR, LBJ, or Obama socialists?
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2011, 10:43:17 PM »

A socialist can't win in the USA? Ever hear of Woodrow Wilson, FDR, LBJ, or Barack Obama? And we would have elected Hillary had she been nominated in '08.

What the hell makes Woodrow Wilson, FDR, LBJ, or Obama socialists?

Glenn Beck says they're bad, therefore they're socialists.
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2011, 04:54:02 AM »

Say it's a weak field for both parties.
Bernie Sanders/Dennis Kucinich vs. Donald Trump/Lou Dobbs?

Say Trump continues to do what he's doing now, could Sanders manage that?
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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2011, 01:45:16 PM »

A socialist can't win in the USA? Ever hear of Woodrow Wilson, FDR, LBJ, or Barack Obama? And we would have elected Hillary had she been nominated in '08.

What the hell makes Woodrow Wilson, FDR, LBJ, or Obama socialists?

Fox News told him to think it..
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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2011, 01:52:29 PM »

Say it's a weak field for both parties.
Bernie Sanders/Dennis Kucinich vs. Donald Trump/Lou Dobbs?

Say Trump continues to do what he's doing now, could Sanders manage that?


Switch the Kucinich/Sanders ticket.  Kucinich could run on voting against Iraq.  I think even he would be more appealing to moderates then "The Donald."
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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2011, 05:23:16 PM »

Who should win? SANDERS
Who would win? TRUMP.
Why? BECAUSE SANDERS WOULD BE THE SOCIALIST STALINIST TROSTYST MAOIST CANDIDATE, haha
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« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2011, 07:42:56 PM »

The problem is that your defining Left-wing wrong.

A Kucinich/Sanders would never happen. On the other hand a Hugo Chavez is quite possible and is probably equally likely to start out on the far right as on the far left given the way these sorts of things develop.
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« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2011, 07:58:57 PM »

LOL. Obama is closer to far right than far left.
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« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2011, 09:46:28 PM »

LOL. Obama is closer to far right than far left.

Relative to the rest of the world, or relative to American politicians?
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« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2011, 02:15:40 PM »

LOL. Obama is closer to far right than far left.

Relative to the rest of the world, or relative to American politicians?

In concrete terms. He would be a centrist or center-leftist relative to America. Saying he is far left is nonsense.
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« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2011, 04:01:00 PM »

Obama is far-evil.
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« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2011, 06:30:21 PM »

LOL. Obama is closer to far right than far left.

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« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2011, 09:14:06 PM »

The United States continues to be the most right-wing nation in the western world. While most western nations have prominent a staunchly left party (Canada has the NDP, Britain has Labour, Spain has the Socialists, France has the Socialists, and don't even get me started on Portugal. 128 MPs in Portugal are members of the Socialist Party, Communist Party, Green Party or Left Bloc!)

What I'm trying to say is that most western nations have a prominent leftist party (or in Portugal's case, several), while the US has none. Fox News will make sure anyone further left than Dennis Kucinich will get libeled if they ever attempt to run for president. Business in this country wouldn't allow it, either.
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